I'm not OK with people getting murdered, but the what the *censored* do you expect me to say? It didn't happen in our *censored* country, so in my opinion, its not our *censored* problem. Here an example for Afghanistan. Let's say the kid next door hits your brother. Well, its your brother's *censored* problem to deal with it. Not you. Get it or are you too *censored* dense?
So if your mother flies to Europe and is murdered by a thief, that isn't any concern of the Department of Foreign Affairs or this Nation in general? Might want to look back through the news and find the issue that arose from a Canadian coupled being murdered in Mexico. Sadly Jon, what happens to our citizens, regardless of where they are at the time,
IS a Canadian issue. Come on Jon, take off the social blindfold and realize that in a perfect World, and a perfect World only, each Nation would keep to itself. We live in reality, and the ramifications of what happens in one Nation can have disasterous repercussions in another. As for the whole "kid next door" analogy, actually, if you had a brother (or if you do, were any kind of brother yourself) you'd slap the kid around. I've got a brother 4 years younger than me, and throughout school I beat the crap out of older kids that picked on him. Then again, judging by the way you think, that ideology would be a foreign concept to you. Standing up for your friends and family.
And I don't say I want free *censored* money from the government. Canadians pay taxes, well why shouldn't they get that money back. I don't want to sit on my ass all my life, which is what you seem to be suggesting. I want to get a job, and get through university. Quit making assumptions, dumbass.
Everything i've ever read from you vis-a-vis Afghanistan, has fallen back to (and i'm paraphrasing here), you screaming "where's my money!".
And as for taking steps to protect Canada. Well first of all, we can ban travel to terrorist-harbouring nations and we can deny immigrants from those kinds of countries from coming into Canada. That would at least be a start.
So you're suggesting that we, in essence, begin limiting where our citizens can travel? In other words, impede on their
RIGHT to live free? That would be counter to everything this Nation stands for. Secondly, deny immigration from those kinds of countries? Sure fine, we put in to motion an
UTTER BAN on a class of people. First off, that goes against everything that is Canadian. Secondly, it wouldn't solve the problem. Ever hear of illegal immigration Jon? That's a huge problem that both Canada and the United States face. Our borders are too large to prevent people from slipping in, and frankly, anyone that would intend to come to this Nation to cause harm, would most likely do so in a covert manner. Lastly, and in my opinion, most importantly, does a terrorist need to be a Canadian citizen to cause harm to Canadians? The answer Jon, is no. A great example is the Bali Bombing of 2002. The attack killed 202 people. People on vacation. Lets say for a second that we utterly close our border to everyone meeting a cetain description (racial profiling), and that we utterly forbid Canadians from travelling to a
LENGTHY list of Nations (breaching the very moral core of our society), do you think that'll somehow make us safe? What's to stop a terrorist organization from blowing up Canada House in London? Or sinking a cruise liner full of Canadian vacationers? You'd in a sense have us turtle like cowards instead of solve the problem.
And all of those conflicts you speak of, they all took place on the other side of the *censored* world. Far away from Canada. Let those people work out their own *censored* problems.
YOu're right, the other side of the World. But what i've been saying all along Jon is that what happens in one Nation, can easily spread to another. A great example is World War II. Do you think, that if we'd just left Europe to itself, the problem would have gone away? I'm not sure if you're fully aware, but in 1941, Germany had Europe at it's knees, and while no one (other than those fully educated) will admit it, Canada saved Europe from total annexation. Post Evacuation of Dunqurque, Canada comprised the
only land force capable of defending England against German invasion (the British Army was shattered and had left almost
ALL of its equipment behind in France). Furthermore the RCAF put at the RAFs disposal large amounts of trained figher pilots, ground crews, and aircraft. Without our help (and that of the Poles and Free French), Germany would have won the Battle of Britain and launched Operation Sealion (the invasion of England). If Germany were to have succeeded in conquering England (which they would have easily), how would the War have turned out Jon? Where could a force attempting to liberate England stage from? The answer is no where. With the fall of England, Germany would have won. They would have turned their
full attention to Russian and utterly conquered them as well. Europe, to this day, would be a German Empire. So your stance of "let those people work their *censored* problems out" is highly ignorant. I've said it already in this thread Jon, and i'll say it again; when a Nation is in a position of wealth and military ability, like Canada is, it behooves said Nation to contribute what it can to World stability and prosperity. You speak like the other Nations of the World that aren't as well off as us, or in as great shape should deal with their own problems. To that I pose this question; why do our cities have police officers? If we were to embody your mantra, everyone would deal with their own problem. That young girl being raped would have to fight off her attacker, or be raped because she was just too weak. The old man being mugged should have to combat the thugs for his wallet, or lose it due to weakness. That's what your stance is when put under the microscope Jon; self-reliance. Sadly, that "perfect world" (in your opinion) doesn't exist. Weaker people exist and therefore Police exist. Weaker Nations exist, therefore stronger Nations sacrifice their time, money, and people to help them. We deployed to Cyprus to stop people from killing eachother. We went to Somalia to feed starving people. We have deployed
NOW to Afghanistan to stop the oppression of Afghans and prevent the terrorist promoting regime of that Nation from ever re-establishing itself, and thus endangering our way of life and
killing more Canadians.
