21st Communist Revolution

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NAUTI, Nepal - They came just after dinnertime, hundreds of communist rebels in green fatigues flowing in from each direction.

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One group stormed down the brick lanes of Panauti's old town — past the Hindu temples crowned with pagodas, the Buddhist shrines, the well-appointed homes — to cut off the small army garrison. Others headed for the town's municipal offices, where they killed the single policeman guarding the building, forcing the others to flee.

They destroyed the offices and killed a soldier in the Feb. 6 raid.

"They took over — they had total control," said Ram Hari, 20, whose apartment overlooks the offices. "They stayed here for hours."

It's a story heard throughout the Himalayan kingdom these days as the Maoist rebels, emboldened by the country's deteriorating political situation, mark the 10th anniversary Monday of their fight to create a communist Nepal.

King Gyanendra seized power just over a year ago, saying he needed to oust an interim government to bring order to a chaotic and corrupt political scene and quell the rebellion, which has claimed 12,000 lives.

A year on, the rebellion has only intensified, the economy has fallen apart and the rebels control a third of the country.

"The momentum is now on our side," said Suresh Ale Magar, a jailed Maoist official.

That was clear in the Panauti raid.

"That they can just come in here and plant bombs and then disappear — it means the king is in big trouble," said Janak Thapa, another resident of the town in the heavily guarded valley that surrounds the capital, Katmandu.

But as brazen as the attack was, few in Nepal believe the Maoists — who are estimated to have up to 12,000 lightly armed fighters — can win an outright military victory.

Instead, diplomats and analysts say the rebels have put themselves in a position to take at least some power by skillfully exploiting a split between Nepal's king and the political parties he usurped.

"If the legitimate constitutional forces are split, that gives the Maoists a real big opening, and they've driven that wedge in," U.S. Ambassador James Moriarity said.

Asked whether he believed they could help oust the king, Moriarity replied: "Absolutely."

As anachronistic as a successful communist rebellion seems in the 21st century, the Maoists' rhetoric of equality resonates deeply among Nepal's 27 million people, many of whom still toil in feudal conditions on land owned by a wealthy elite.

Still, many here say the rebels' power is rooted in fear. Vocal critics have been literally butchered by the insurgents, who often steal what they need from poor villagers and press young men and women into service.

"The Maoists are canny," said Rhoderick Chalmers of the International Crisis Group, a Brussels, Belgium-based think tank. "They are very patient. Even if their popular support is limited, they're the only group with a coherent strategy."

Last year, they teamed up with the major opposition parties to press for democracy, an alliance that scored its first victory this past week when it undermined municipal elections.

Wednesday's polls were billed by the king as a step back toward democracy. The rebels and opposition called them an attempt by Gyanendra to legitimize his power grab. The parties peacefully boycotted; the Maoists stepped up attacks and threatened anyone who participated, killing two candidates.

The result was a turnout of about 20 percent, and an ever-widening divide between the opposition, which claimed victory, and the king, who appears unwilling to back down and negotiate with either the rebels or dissidents despite his plummeting popularity.

The turnout "clearly shows that people do not have faith in the king's promises," independent analyst Dhruba Adhikary said. "The king won't accept that."

But Nepalis also have little regard for the political parties, best known for corruption.

The Maoists, meanwhile, have become a political player through their alliance with the parties, and Moriarity and other observers say the rebels are the one group that can probably mobilize Nepalis, even if their support is based on fear.

But what's the endgame? Many in Nepal believe the king cannot hold on forever. Some talk of massive protests leading to an abdication, others speak of a military coup. The optimists talk of the king doing an about face and negotiating.

Magar reiterated the rebel position that whatever happens, they are ready to negotiate with either the king or the political parties — both of which he casually refers to as "class enemies," using the classic rhetoric of last century's communist regimes.

"We will listen, we will be flexible — we recognize the need to engage our class enemies on the political level," he said. "We won't immediately resort to renewing our armed struggle."

But he warned: "We are not flexible to the point that we are political and ideologically finished."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_re_as/nepal_rising_maoists;_ylt=AiztJjPKP2t9jdb4LV299TpvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

Could this be a resurge of communism in Asia?
 

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U.N peacekeepers only go into war-torn situations if both sides, or all sides in the conflict accept a cease-fire, so if a cease-fire and peacetalks were agreed too, you would probably see U.N peacekeepers.

However, I do not think Mr. Annan doesn't want armed socialism, he just wants socialism to take over.

Finally, U.N peacekeepers only go into situations where there are extreme cases of violence that hasn't resulted in a cease-fire and has not turned out well for them, so far.
 

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U.N. plans global socialist rule
Henry Lamb
Monday, February 6, 2006

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland last week, the United Nations Development Program promoted its plan to rule the world through a global socialist economic system. The plan is detailed in a book entitled The New Public Finance: Responding to Global Challenges, published by Oxford University Press.

The U.N. plan identifies seven trillion dollars - that's $7,000,000,000,000 - to be taken from developed nations for use by the U.N. to solve all the world's problems.

At the heart of the program is a global pollution permit trading scheme, that would produce $3.64 trillion, according to the U.N. This is a glorified version of the emissions trading scheme envisioned in the Kyoto Protocol. Here is a simplified example of how such a scheme would work. The U.N. would establish arbitrary limits on the quantity of pollution each nation could produce. If a nation exceeded the limit, it would have to pay substantial penalties. Or, the polluting nation could purchase “credits” from developing nations that produce less pollution than allowed by the U.N. Either way, money from developed nations is redistributed to developing nations - through the U.N., of course.

The U.N. claims that another $2.9 trillion could be realized for developing countries by reducing their borrowing costs, and another $600 billion by linking loan repayments to their economic output. The plan also recommends the creation of a “Chapter 11 bankruptcy” procedure for nations, overseen by the U.N.

The U.N. plan would impose the "Tobin Tax" a global tax on foreign currency exchange. When first proposed two decades ago, the estimated yield was $1.5 trillion. Now, the estimate is $2.9 trillion. The U.N. has lusted after this tax for years. opposition by the united states has, so far, prevented its adoption.

The U.N. plan has devised another creative way to generate money: tax the income of immigrants so the nations from which the immigrants departed could be pledged against loans to build infrastructure in poor nations. The plan also includes taxes on international travel, and forcing wealthy nations to give .07 percent of their annual economic output to international aid, as well as an array of other potential income sources.

Most of these tax schemes have been proposed many times by various U.N. agencies. This is the first time there has been a comprehensive plan developed, published, and presented as the official program of the United Nations. Most of the world's nations support this plan, or some variation of it. Most nations, of course, would be recipients. But many European nations also support the plan, including such dignitaries as Gordon Brown, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Laureate. The U.K., France, Italy, Spain, Sweden, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, have publicly endorsed a part of the scheme, the creation of an International Finance Facility, to increase aid for disease control to $100 billion.

For years, individuals and organizations in the United States have warned that the United Nations is ultimately working to implement some form of world government. These warnings have largely gone unheeded, and were often ridiculed by the so-called, “well informed”, on both sides of the political spectrum.

Even a cursory reading of our global nieghborhood, published by the commission on global governance, or the undp's latest plan, can produce no other conclusion: the united nations is, indeed, working diligently to install global, socialist, rule.

Proponents of this scheme realize that the American people would overwhelmingly reject this proposal if given an opportunity to vote on the decision to subject the United States to U.N. global rule. That's why the mechanism for global governance is being constructed in small steps taken by a multitude of different U.N. agencies and organizations, all coordinated, all working toward the same goal.

The solution is an orderly withdrawal from the United Nations. The United States must continue to be engaged in security and commerce around the world, but it must be neither constrained by, nor subject to, the United Nations. The United Nations has proven to be a cesspool of unaccountable corruption. Every American should study the documents referenced above, published or endorsed by the United Nations, and then insist that their elected representatives remove the United States from the grasp of the United Nations.

Rest assured that the proponents of global governance are working daily to advance their goals. The apathy, indifference and ignorance of ordinary Americans, are among the primary weapons relied upon by the U.N. People who do nothing to stop global governance, are actually helping to implement it.

Henry Lamb is the executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization (ECO), and chairman of Sovereignty International

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/lamb020606.htm
 

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Global rule, Global Rule.

:twisted:

This is silly. The U.N is trying to sort out the world problems, which is their job that is what they are paid to due. And once they put down a comprehensive plan, oh they are trying to rule the world.

Come on.

Even though it is funny.
 

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"The U.N. plan would impose the "Tobin Tax" a global tax on foreign currency exchange. When first proposed two decades ago, the estimated yield was $1.5 trillion. Now, the estimate is $2.9 trillion. The U.N. has lusted after this tax for years. opposition by the united states has, so far, prevented its adoption."

No taxation without representation. Oh dear, history is about to repeat itself.
 

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The two main governoring powers until the king took control was the Communist party united and the congress party. The communist party united was a main stream party and still is and is generally like those which rule parts of india. The Maoists the the nut balls. I do not see the maoists ever winning this conflic as they have less then 15% of the support of the puplic. The Communist party united has almost 50% and the xcongress and royalists has the other.

Considering everyone Communist party united, Royalists and the congress party hate the maoists I can not see the maoists winning. The MAoists are no better then Pol Pot's Khmer rogue (sp) and should and must be stopped. the problem is the king is royally undemocratic too.
 

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I've been covering this story for a bloq for the last 3 years.

The democratic parties
The Communist party united
the Congress party

Are both protesting for elections.

The King and the Royalist parties are not backing elections. They know they will lose badly.

The Communist party Moaist also doesn't want elections because they also know they will lose badly like the royals.

Both the Monarchy and the Maoists no they can not win or lose by war but they can lose by the ballot box. The Communist party united and the congress party wish to work with the royals though and wish to get peace with the maoists.
 

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Jersay said:
Then why did the political parties sign a deal with the Maoists to bring down the Royalty.

hmm since when were the leaders of the democratic parties allowed out of jail or house arrest? I know the CPU where asked in the past to try to get the CPM to come to the table for there inclusion into the democratic process. But it has never worked. If the Congress and the CPU have actually worked out a deal with the maoist we could see the end of the kings dictatorship, but I can't see the CPU and congress work with the maoists very long.
 

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Oh and there may have been a mistake in the reporting. Us westerners screw up on them all the time, because we don't understand the government was an elected communist party which was like those in India which were fighting communist Maoists and in a lose alliance with the Congress party which both parties would take lead in the government, and in which were tossed out by the king who has ruled as a dictator by both jailing the communist party united and congress party leaders and fighting the maoists as well. It's easy to get this conflic messed up.

The maoists have held large area's in the past but there staying power is very limited as they do not have that much support.
 

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Supposedly there is a deal between the two to end the King's dictatorship which resulted in only 20% of people going out for local elections.

I could see that but you might or the editor may have mixed up the CPU as the CPM? Because the CPM is really against the elections too. Also a report by an NGO would help on this election as we do not know if the Army intimidated voters or if Maoists intiminated the voters. They have been saying for years that the Maoists would attack any voters. I highly doubt maoist controled area's had good turn outs and I highly doubt the army controled by the king would allow for democratic turnouts to be high. Thats my opinion.
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/08/nepal.election.vote.ap/index.html



"In the southwestern town of Dang, the army said "soldiers were compelled to open fire" on some 150 protesters trying to interfere with the vote, killing one and injuring another."

"We refuse to accept the results from these so-called elections," said Krishna Sitaula of the Nepali Congress party."

"Many voters said they were scared away from voting by the rebels' call for a general strike and their threat to kill anyone who took part, and a government warning that it would shoot anyone caught disrupting the elections."

"The royal government rounded up hundreds of politicians, activists and journalists in the weeks before the elections. On Wednesday morning, police arrested about 30 politicians and activists who were trying to organize protests in an eastern border town."