10.7 Billion Year-Old Spiral Galaxy Stuns Astronomers

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BX442 is so old that it shouldn't really be a spiral galaxy at all.

Over the past 22 years, the venerable Hubble space telescope has shown humanity a great many wonders from the distant past of our galaxy and universe. Now, continuing its mission to find the oldest and weirdest bodies in the universe, Hubble has pointed astronomers towards an odd spiral galaxy that looks to be around 10.7 billion years old. While spiral galaxies are by no means uncommon in the modern universe, this ancient spiral, named BX442, is the first of its kind to be seen so far back in spacetime.

Spotted by Hubble and refined by the Keck Observatory in Hawaii, the elegantly-named BX442 perplexed astronomers when Hubble first picked it up. Being as old as it is, the galaxy shouldn't have such a refined spiral shape; if we're right about the Big Bang, the universe should've been too much of a hot mess back then to allow anything so pretty and defined to form. So what's up with BX442?
A team of researchers, writing in Nature, think they may have found the answer. According to David Law of the University of Toronto's Dunlap Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics, a lead author in the study, the explanation for BX442's weird shape lies in some quiet assistance from a small friend. In this case, that friend is a small dwarf galaxy floating around the outskirts of the spiral.

"You can get a little extra help if you've got a satellite galaxy orbiting around," said Law. "It gives that extra little gravitational kick to help accentuate the strength of the arm and make it into one of those eye-popping examples like the Whirlpool galaxy that you see all the pictures of."

"What we've learned when we look at galaxies at that epoch is that they're very dynamically hot," continued Law. "Even though we see some discs existing at that time, they're very thick and puffy, whereas the Milky Way has an... amount of random motion only about a tenth or so the amount of ordered rotation, giving rise to a very thin disc."

As the authors point out, BX442's spiral arms may have been a transient feature, a cosmological accident of sorts; further investigation into ancient galaxies should yield further clues. Armed with proof that spiral galaxies of this kind did indeed exist during the universe's relative infancy, Law and his colleagues are off to point Hubble at some more regions they suspect of harboring ancient galaxies. Is BX442 the only super-ancient spiral galaxy out there, or is its formation not as unique as it first appears?

Source: Nature via BBC
 

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What staggers me about all this, is that the Hubble now is finding things that will not be seen millions of years from now. Everything is flying apart at such speed that, in a distant future, Earthlings will think they are alone in the universe.
 

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The Hitchhikers Guide says that the Universe is big, really massively mind blowingly big, in fact big doesn't even begin to describe it. Or something along those lines It is something in fact, that we can even get a bit of a sense of perspective looking at it the way these guys are doing. wake up every morning and say hey look something new and crazy.
 

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The Hitchhikers Guide says that the Universe is big, really massively mind blowingly big, in fact big doesn't even begin to describe it. Or something along those lines It is something in fact, that we can even get a bit of a sense of perspective looking at it the way these guys are doing. wake up every morning and say hey look something new and crazy.

Seriously start think of time, time as in how long to travel to the closest galaxy, Andromeda.

It's about 2.5 million light years away, which means it's a 2.5 million year trip if you could travel the speed of light. Our galaxy (Milky Way) is on a collision course with it. The collision will happen in about 4 billion years...

NASA - NASA's Hubble Shows Milky Way is Destined for Head-On Collision
 

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Seriously start think of time, time as in how long to travel to the closest galaxy, Andromeda.

It's about 2.5 million light years away, which means it's a 2.5 million year trip if you could travel the speed of light. Our galaxy (Milky Way) is on a collision course with it. The collision will happen in about 4 billion years...

NASA - NASA's Hubble Shows Milky Way is Destined for Head-On Collision

I know, I'm already worried about whether I remembered to lock the trailer
 

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The Hitchhikers Guide says that the Universe is big, really massively mind blowingly big, in fact big doesn't even begin to describe it. Or something along those lines It is something in fact, that we can even get a bit of a sense of perspective looking at it the way these guys are doing. wake up every morning and say hey look something new and crazy.

The Universe is big, and the people who creatively imagine these worlds that sometime come true are scarenly imaginative in their own right.

My reasoning why the big bang theory is flawed is because we as humans havent physically left our solar system yet. So how the hell can we make equations about the universe proving its yada, and yet we havent physically been past the oort cloud? We dont know ****...Common sense ....This galaxy sighting is going to be just the beginning!!!
 
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BX442 is so old that it shouldn't really be a spiral galaxy at all.

What is being forgotten in this news article is the fact, we are seeing galaxies that are probably not even there anymore or have already changed..

What we are seeing is images of galaxies that were there 3 billion years ago.. as it takes that long for the light to get to us from that distance..

So for them to say "it shouldn't be a spiral galaxy anymore," chances are by the time we see it, it's not. We only see what was there 3 billion years ago.. in the past. What we see travels at the speed of light to us..

We already could very well be alone in the universe, outside our own small galaxy.
 

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NASA already has the VRocket to launch cargo into space to build a moon base..



All they have to do is send the cargo and material to the moon in advance, then send up a manned space craft with individuals who will build and live on the moon.

Solar panels, seeds to grow food, water, oxygen .. it would not take much effort to build a moon base and even Canada could do this.

We have the technology.. it only takes money and a dream.



Scientists Make Oxygen Out of Moon Rock

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If there is no human there to plant the flag,the planet will be claimed by whatever nation sends a redshirt,the US Russia or China.

You plant the flag with some sort of rocket javelin.

I think one of those would be no match for a guy standing on the moon in a spacesuit.