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Well, if any of the folks who think that the climate isn't now warming due primarilly to greenhouses gases can explain why the stratosphere is cooling, when the troposphere is warming, maybe then I'll seriously consider that the theory is wrong. Seriously, try to find an explanation for that...

I thought some of you may like to see a presentation I did last semester on this very subject in an ecology class. It has some relevant links, and a few nice graphics. You can follow the refernces as well. http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dfrz479d_1xkjbs4cj

Yes, I know that... It fits entirely with what I wrote. Instead of spending $400 million on building more efficient power grids, or combined heat and power units for municipalities, or research on more efficient batteries for electric vehicles, or even mitigation proposals like salt aerosols or...

Well, scientists have been getting results for decades now, warning about the consequences. Walter's favourite web hacks sling their bull crap around, and just as the tobacco companies did, they sow doubt. So how do you remedy that except to get more results Smack? Note that the scientists are...

Editing a post ex-facto like that is poor form Scotty, even for you. I concede anything that is logical that I might have missed. You have yet to state anything fundamentally flawed, or missing from the linked analysis of an eight year study, with many thousands of repeated measurements. My...

There is proof, a measured decrease over 8 years. That's the opposite of what you said.

It has been done by other people Scotty, many times. That graph I linked earlier, with the concentrations of carbonic acid, bicarbonate, and carbonate, is a well known fact of nature. You don't need to reinvent the wheel every time, that's pointless.

All science is probabilistic. You can't get an advanced degree in any science without taking advanced statistics. Why? How do you know what you measured captures the nature of the system, and was not due to chance? Do you know what a p-value is, and why it's important? Correlation has nothing...

What experiment would you like Scotty? One showing an equilibrium between bicarbonate and carbonate? It's been done. One showing the solubility of carbon dioxide in water? It's been done. One showing the change in [H+] in a solution with the addition of more carbonic acid? It's been done...

How isn't it? Do you even know what empirical data is? From the paper: This is not model derived data. It's measurements taken in the field over eight years.

How about from a scientist, instead of a journalist? The dark and bright sides of global warming YouTube - The Dark and Bright Sides of Global Warming

He doesn't have to apologize for saying stupid things, but he should admit his errors.

Zzarchov is right, this shows extreme ignorance. First, acidification doesn't mean something has to already be an acid. It describes the water chemistry just fine, it is becoming more acidic. Afterall, the pH scale is measuring the H+ ions in an aqueous solution, and as the pH drops, you have...

Now, there you go being logical again Zzarchov. This is not how a skeptic should act! :lol:

I like marmalade in the glaze. Never soaked it before but will give that a try next time.

That was some wicked wind ehh? Schedule 40 and some guy wires with 6 foot deep anchor rods. Then you'll be cooking with harvested electrons!

Yup, +1.2° for me too please! :D

Yeah, but that's inconvenient for meme's sake. Now get a job Zzarchov! :smile:

Have you not been to a Catholic service before? Stand up, kneel down, sit. Say amen. Turn to your neighbours and say Peace be with you. Take the sacrament, make the sign. All in the correct order, as has been done by thousands of practitioners before you did, or at least those you observed...

Now see, some people will read your religious part and twist that. Science is like a religion, in the way it's practiced. The scientific method is analogous to the rituals of a priest, but that's the end of it. Scientists disagree with each other all the time. They write letters or brevias as...