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  1. Tonington

    Denial site

    It's way more than 100,000 barrels of oil a day. The US alone uses almost 20 million barrels a day. The y-axis on that chart in your link has units of 1000 barrels per day. Here's a chart showing supply and demand, in millions of barrels per day:
  2. Tonington

    Denial site

    Denial site? I don't agree with that. Sure there's lots of posters who fall on the fake skeptic or denial side, but that doesn't mean this is a denial site. It's a forum, lots of opinions. If I wanted to post with like minded people I wouldn't come to this forum. There's lots of places out there...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Yep, already with the recovery! LMAO
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Yes I know that, in fact that's kind of the point. The density of water in the atmosphere is irrelevant when there is a similar force acting in the same direction as buoyancy gives to a ship. So long as there is a strong enough updraft created by warm air meeting cold air, the water droplets as...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Cloud physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    So? Steel is more dense than water, and yet steel hulled boats float. Expand your scope rodent. :lol:
  7. Tonington

    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Yes, it is. Of course nothing down here affects solar. Nobody suggested likewise. So let's dispense with that strawman. As for no functioning greenhouse gas effect, that's simple denial of reality on your part. CO2 experiment - YouTube And for those interested in the methods of the paper...
  8. Tonington

    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Someone, doesn't understand the second law of thermodynamics. Survival blankets, those thin sheets keep your body warm by reducing the radiation of heat away from your body. The greenhouse effect does the same thing. As does a kiln. Or the heat jacket placed around a hot water tank. It reduces...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Warmer water expands too. Part of sea level rise is the thermal expansion of the oceans due simply to the oceans holding more heat.
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    I've explained it to you before. Have you forgotten already? Try explaining cloud height with your electric universe hypothesis. I can do math, I'd like to see yours for theoretical limits on cloud height using first principles of your electric hypothesis.
  11. Tonington

    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Beaver is full of it! Some bogus beaver linkage. The Skate surfaced at the North Pole in 1959, and the picture depicting an ice free pole is false. Below are the pictures of the Skate surfacing at the North Pole. Note the ceremony they had while standing on the ice, scattering the ashes of...
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    What is driving US debt?

    Off the Charts Blog | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities | What
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    As promised, here's the full dataset. Makes a huge difference when you include the first 50 years in the record: A fine example of cherry picking by a fake sceptic. The actual trend for Nuuk is 1.41°C per century, which is significantly higher than the long term trend for the globe in the NASA...
  14. Tonington

    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    So take a look at older records, how about these? 1870-2003: A changing Arctic seasonal ice zone: Observations from 1870–2003 and possible oceanographic consequences 1870-1998: An Informed Guide to Climate Data Sets: Walsh Sea Ice Concentrations And here's proxy data going back ~1500 years...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    There's a pretty big difference between 600 kilometers and 600 miles. Back to the melting ice, record number 9 for this melt season, a new low in Arctic sea ice volume:
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Of course I do. You're the one who said when you mean south of Cambridge bay you mean 600 miles. I can post it again for you if you like. And when I informed you that 600 miles south is the NWT-Saskatchewan border, you then claim it's me who needs the map! :lol: You're not fooling anyone koko
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    It's not. Goddard left out earlier years in the dataset, about 50 years worth! The result of omitting the earlier data is that the regression line, or long-term trend if you prefer, becomes negative. I'll download the data at work tomorrow and show you the difference when I get home. When the...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Are you retarded? You best check a map retard.
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    First, I'm not a scientist. Never claimed to be one. Second, I checked the info you gave. First it was Cambridge Bay. Checked that and the temperature was far different from what you had claimed. Then you said it was 600 miles south. So I checked the nearest weather station 600 miles south of...