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So, that's justification for the UN to support fraudulent info then, is it? BTW - In case you didn't get the memo, this issue is about causation.

Did you read the article that you posted Avro? Pembina is claiming that there is 2 billion in federal aid, yet they aren't providing any details about it... According to the rest of the article (written by a west coast greenie no less), they are tax breaks. So' I'll ask you again; What are...

I just love the title of the article, it's so dramatic. I'm a little curious though, I didn't see the date in which it was presented... Was this before or after the IPCC had to retract their "undeniable" assessment with the Amazon rain forest and Himalayan glacier research? Just curious.

From the article: the gradual elimination of an accelerated capital cost allowance to the industry However, according to the Pembina Institute's best estimate, the oil sector still receives close to $2 billion in federal aid annually, despite a period of unparalleled profits and growth...

It could be depending on which greenie math the dentist is using. Let's see; 1 dentist that elects to speak on behalf of the planet - correcting for any errors easily equals 97% acceptance. What a coincidence, three teeth is the exact same number of the cumulative IQ of the greenies regarding...

What subsidies are those Avro?

i was thinking that the 5th dentist decided to speak-out on behalf of everyone.

Give the greenies the very same tax breaks, I have no problem with that.

Is that like 4 out of 5 dentists recommend Trident?

.... Ahhhh, the cry of the greenie-brigade, moaning that they need more subsidies in order to save the planet. With all of the benefits that they demand come with green tech, independently and financially stable are not one of them. Say Avro, why aren't the dirt-worshipers getting the cash...

So, in your professional opinion, based on the irrefutable evidence, it's antro CO2? Got a link or is this what all of the green-washing has yielded?

How's the antarctic ice keeping up these days? You ought to consider discussing this issue with Petros, he certainly has a unique view; enough to confound your buddy.

The substantiated proof has been bandied about these forums for a long time now. If you question the accuracy of my statement, you are welcome to google it yourself, no doubt you'll find thousands of links that describe exactly what I have posted. Here's a start for ya. Walter posted it 2 days ago.

The IPCC has not only accepted the frauds by Green Peace (Amazon Rain Forest speculation) but also incorporated that "data" into their policy. For a group (IPCC) that professes "peer review" and full scientific research as the fundamental basis of their conclusions/recommendations, it does not...

Has Gore traced back his ancestry that far?

It means that groups like the IPCC, Green Peace and Sierra Club are aggressively pursuing their agendas and have no compunction about perpetuating fraud in order to achieve their goals.

Lord knows that I've had no success in that area, but clearly, you've been highly effective at illustrating the premise that "we don't know what we don't know". Good on ya. I'm looking forward to educating myself (albeit on a cursory basis) relative to your offering.

Sure Tonnington, whatever you like. Interesting though that despite this exchange, you are no where near capable of even assessing what you do not know, you don't even want to consider this question in any way, shape or form. You have put all your eggs in one basket, pointed to a few...

Climatic studies being the puzzle with the most missing pieces. As far as your contention that "we know enough to identify the cause of warming", well, apparently that is not the case as this entire debate is about just that. .. And they are all natural sources. I can't believe that you...

Good analogy... Running with it, your scenario represents a puzzle that is missing most of the pieces... makes it kinda tough to complete the puzzle, don't it? Great.. If these are the magical factors that are driving the warming trend today, what was responsible for those multiple episodes...