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If you think it's so bad why are you still using it? Nothing stopping you from not being part of the problem except your hypocracy. Bullpuckey! Multi-billions are going into alternative energy research. Not only that, those self same fossil fuel industries know it, and they're getting in on it...

People like maybe, Phil Jones of CRU, "Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon. And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically warming for the past 15...

:lol: Fool! The truth is more like Gore having put his scam into motion with no science at all behind him (see that Brittish court case) cashing in on it big time. Like solar power huh? check this out. The insanity of greenery | Watts Up With That? Block? What block? They're in on it...

Back in the '90's the forest industry of BC was the cause du jour of the environuts, and they put out a lot of propaganda about it. Lots of half truths, misinformation and outright lies. The forest corporations eventually decided to form a group to counter them with truth, and they formed the...

Yeah, yeah, I know all that. What I was trying to say in my inept way was that they use similar curves, sometimes showing inverse reactions/results, sometimes with oposing results, but the same curve. I'm not sure if you don't get it or if you're just playing dumb again. The skeptics were the...

Nonsense. It's true that the oil companies funded some skeptics a bit at the beginning, but the vast majority of them never got a dime, never will. The oil companies are in business to make money, and they've since realized that there's more money in "fighting climate change" than in selling...

Yeah right! :lol: Sure you did. :roll: Is that your sister in your avatar?;-)

Well how about that! For your information I have spent more than 44 years working in the forest industry of BC, first for the BC Forest Service and later in industry. I do know what I'm talking about here. Scientists say 60 million years. Nonsense. Manning Park never ever gets as cold as it...

Mostly true. They only leave the tree to mate and fly to infest new trees. Nope. Mature Yellow Pine (ponderosa) have thicker bark than immature as well as very old and young White Pine, but there's little difference between the thickness in old and young bark in Lodgepole Pine in which this...

So then why didn't the beetles kill off the pine forests in the south centuries (or millenia) ago? If cold was the major control as you contend that would have happened. (Where is your yard, by the way?) The beetles will hit young trees when they're in massive numbers such as now. Normally...

:lol: I guess you find this easier to deal with than what skeptics really say.

Both are exponential curves, one being the inverse of the other.:roll:

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I don't disagree. But I will maintain that when one side has that many black marks, an investigation is warranted at the least. (PS - Nice forsythia in your avatar. Spring is here!)

I think you should look at history. In times past, warm periods (considerably warmer than now) were times of abundance and advancement for the human race. Cold periods were times of starvation, pestilance, retraction and population decline of up to 40%. We should be looking forward with...

I'm wondering what your point is.

What, you're disputing that if CO2 was causing the warming it would heat up the troposphere above the tropics faster? :lol: I recall you once tried to dispute the Medieval Climate Optimum as a defense for your position. Pathetic, as usual.

What you cited is studies whose conclusions conflict with reality. If that's the best you can do, then yes indeed, there's not much more to discuss. You seem a bit confused. It isn't the skeptics that are expecting warming, it's the alarmists who are pushing the panic button over miniscule...

Nope. The beetles have always been in the north. In fact, large infestations have occured much more often in the northern part of the province than the south. They survived cold winters by moving to the base of the tree for the winter where the snow would protect them from severe cold, and by...

More nonsense! Where do you guys get this stuff? The amount of beetles in a film canister wouldn't be enough to kill one tree, and besides which, they only live outside the bark for a very short period of time when they're flying to find new trees to lay their eggs in. Release them at any other...