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You're just being pedantic.

So Levant was wrong. Big deal. Give the guy a break already.

Irrigation my hairy, pimply ass.

Irrigation? Wow, you aren't even trying anymore.

I am. I've always been interested in this issue. In fact, you and I agree that the issue exists, so I'm not sure why you would be offended. We can't expect the problem to go away without a solution - and if you think that the taxes or caps are bad solutions, then what do you actually have to...

This thread is about global warming. Human-induced global warming is due to rising C02 levels. The solution to this problem is reducing C02 emissions coming from polluters. A carbon tax is one solution. Cap and trade is another. I have yet to see any other policy recommendations from you...

That depends on how many tons of C02 we have to reduce by, and what method we use. Why do you think we're talking about policy here? I only know of cap and trade and carbon tax schemes as a method of reducing C02 emissions. What other policy options or legislation is there that would...

At the cost it would take to make sure C02 levels are reasonable.

Let's keep in mind that the ultimate goal is to reduce C02 emissions. How would we go about enforcing that goal?

So do you think a carbon tax or cap and trade should be enforced? Or what other specific legislation should be enacted to reduce C02 emissions?

So nothing on the kind of legislation we should enact Bear? I'm not saying you have to be an expert on the subject. I just want to get some ideas.

Exactly. Which is why there needs to be policy that begins with industry-wide changes and reductions in those emissions. Then, once that industry decides to lessen it's dependency on resources that cause C02 emissions, it should have a positive effect on clean tech, etc. But that only...

When it comes to emissions reductions? Probably not, but we're not talking about putting money in people's pockets. We're talking about slowing the rate of warming. It won't matter how rich anyone is if we have to worry about environmental hazards in 100 or so years.

That's one way, but green initiatives are not as big a problem as emissions output. The science world agrees that emissions are the top priority and they have to be reduced.

No, I never said that I do little to nothing. But it is true that we do have to prioritize on a macroscopic scale. It's unrealistic to expect regular, every day people to change their habits. The problem is severe enough that we need an enforced policy. And that belays the greater point that...

I don't know how you are even aware of what I do for the environment, but that's not the point. The point is that we're talking about a policy that would be enforced that would affect everyone. And this is the third time I'm asking an honest, legitimate question just to get your input. What...

I'm being serious here. First you give me 15 unwarranted reddies (with no explanation) and now you just divert from the discussion. I don't know why we even have these threads anymore if it's just going to be a slugfest. Sure we can joke here and there, but when do we get back to having a...

Guys, I'm only asking about a solution. We've already proven that there is a link between C02 emissions and global warming. That is obvious and not in doubt. The question is: What do we do about it? I'm asking in earnest here. Is a tax the right methodology? Is cap and trade the correct...

What's wrong with you? I never even said that I supported it. It was an honest question to actually continue the discussion.

Is a tax a proper solution?