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  1. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Yes, even GW believes in global warming. This is news? What's your point? Oh, right, you mean anthropogenic global warming. You really need to make sure you don't leave out important words. Huge difference. No, GW doesn't believe in AGW, but for political reasons he pretends to, as does...
  2. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    This is news? Everyone believes in global warming. Well maybe a very few don't, but everyone I know believes in global warming. So what's your point? Oh, maybe you mean that MCain believes in anthropogenic global warming. If that's what you mean, then that's what you should say. Huge...
  3. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Ask Michael himself
  4. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    AGW alarmists never retract, though they frequently should. Skeptics do, though they seldom need to. Goddard explains: Much more to the article at http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/arctic-ice-growth-2008-how-much/#more-2648
  5. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Because the technology to do so doesn't exist. They're ahead of us in some ways (people going to the olympics report they have electronic do-dads not available here. I also heard that they've developed a rechargeable battery that lasts 12 times as long as the best we have. I believe if they...
  6. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    I recall reading that Canada has 6 different Polar bear populations, of which one is declining and the rest are increasing. I've also read that the overall population has quintupled in the last half century. Again, I fail to see a problem. They supposedly evolved 200,000 years ago which...
  7. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    I'd never call anyone else a liar.:lol:
  8. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Are you suggesting that it's possible that signficant new species of coral have evolved in a very short time? Or could? Did I say ALL temperature fluctuations in the recent geological past have been greater? If so that was a mistake on my part. The intention was to say that there have been...
  9. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    It was a bit confusing, since I hadn't seen any comments or complaints by Les (or anyone else) on the subject. I will try to copy and paste more carefully.:p You slander me with your insinuations. When you and I first started sparing, lo these many months ago, I mentioned Gore and Suzuki...
  10. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Not enough time has passed on for any noticeable additional speciation, and any that has won't survive the next natural cycle anyway, if they're that sensitive. Larger climate changes are a fact, very much substantiated. You should know that. I don't have time to reference right now. Look...
  11. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Well I don't care to see species disappear, but that's the natural way of things. Over 99% of species that have ever existed are extinct. I don't miss having dinosaurs around, but I wouldn't like to see polar bears vanish. Not that they're likely to, they aren't endangered, they're in the...
  12. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Most of the businesses benefiting are the likes of Al Gores carbon offset company. You won't get rid of an oil company till the demand collapses. Not happening any time soon. The company that can build a full size SUV that gets terrific mileage or runs on an alternative energy source that's...
  13. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Yes it can. It can also help situations that are critical. I agree, something is happening. But the question is what is causing it. Yes, thanks, I saw that in the last post.
  14. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Well we know that it was much warmer during the Medieval climate optimum. And the Roman Warming. And very much warmer during most of the holocene, and warmer yet during the last few interglacials. Are you suggesting that there are some species that have evolved since then? If so, they...
  15. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    If I hadn't wanted anyone to see the rest of the material I wouldn't have used the link in the first place. Some times I paste the whole article, sometimes I paste relevant parts and link to it, sometimes the whole article is relevant but I consider it too long to paste it all. I guess you could...
  16. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    You don't understand self deprecation? Pretty hard to show that much detail in a photo of the whole arctic. And it showed enough to counter the melting claim. I gotta agree with you on those. These were answers to people making those type of claims from the opposite point of view. Sauce for...
  17. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Yup, trees are marvelous plants. But not cutting them wouldn't have much effect against a carbon sink or oxygen production as the article claims. Forests have pretty much reached equilibrium in that respect. The trees don't live forever, and when they burn or rot, as they all will, almost all...
  18. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    It's bad enough that they scam the capitalist west in order to bring about a massive wealth transfer. It ticks me off. But I get really angry at what they do to billions of the worlds poorest people in order to "save the planet"...
  19. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    GW is true. It's a natural progression. AGW is true also, but only in such miniscule amounts that it isn't measurable except in localized areas like heat islands. AGW caused by carbon emissions is a hoax designed to transfer wealth from the successful capitalistic economies to the dictatorial...
  20. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Indeed there is. The article was about the discovery of a tropical reef, teeming with life, thriving! You had said (months ago) that tropical corals were in trouble. This discovery indicates that maybe they aren't. Actually, that wasn't the focus of the article. But the author felt he had to add...