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ya Zipperfish... petros says "go fetch"!

re-read your post... you clearly blew a gasket! But way to shake it up a bit! You moving from "protagonist" to "proponent" makes all the difference! 8O here's the thing you're missing, as you say, "FOOL"... I ain't talkin to myself... for every single post I put up, you chuckle-heads...

says they guy, you, who simply linked to an article put together by a high-school teenager... yes, clearly, your source has "veracity"! I asked you to take any of those related graphs and try to make a case for, as you say, "it's veracity". You can't... you have no understanding in anything...

no - and I just made fun of you for the graph you tried to pass off as an accurate reflection. You're nothing but a poser too afraid to actually answer a few questions that would expose your charade. and yes, graphs can be used to argue... like this one following since you seemed to like a...

you just happened to miss the caption? You didn't like my image... the one from PNAS? Just answer the questions poser, just answer them!

oh my... petros... why did you try to add that particular graphic when I just supplied you a much more accurate one? Oh wait, is it because... your preferred graph fails to show recent warming? I've re-posted your graphic with the missing caption... you're welcome!!! but again, just answer the...

then answer the questions you keep avoiding... is there a problem for you? still waiting HoloceneMan... still waiting! :mrgreen: it's the typical year-to-year re-growth of first-year ice... that, in turn, is the first ice to melt in the subsequent melting phase. As I answered your...

aren't we in the Holocene or are we?

we aren't or are?

DuhSleeper! Try a googly on the debunking of that POS! :mrgreen: Given the profile it received, it rightly deserved the thrashing it received! Is it any wonder you... you... would hold it up as some testament to "accuracy/truth/authority"! it appears quite a bit... not even guys who play at...

exactly! Oh my... does this mean you've dropped your HoloceneMan act? That we'll never read you again bringing forward mention of the Holocene Optimum?

you really need some new material! Just how much mileage do you think you can squeeze out of that "ice-free Arctic" meme? Why keep going back to that well... here's a thought, why don't you take a shot at adding to/challenging some of the related "sciency stuff". Sure you can! Be more than just...

no, dummy... the 2 images are nothing more than normal ice extent forming... first year ice forming. The first year ice forming that will simply be the first to melt in the next melting phase. Only a purposeful misinforming denier would continue to attempt to make something about Arctic sea-ice...

Walter! Those weren't YOUR graphs... those were the graphs your intrepid high school wannabe meteorologist slapped together! Hey Walter, why don't you step out from your cozy isolation and actually try to explain a single one of those graphs... explain and support a single one of those graphs...

state your comparative case: you claim "some relevancy, some correlation, some... something" relationship between the warming of the Holocene Optimum and the warming of the most relatively recent (hundred years or so) period... you also seem to imply something about the relative warming levels...

still waiting HoloceneMan... still waiting! :mrgreen: that's deep Walter! Which denier blog has you now parroting "Gaia"?

you know Walter... you continue to outright ignore all the graphs showing you warming. It's truly a most bizarre position for anyone, like you, to take... that it isn't warming. Of course, legitimate skeptics accept its warming... some of those even accept a principal attribution of that warming...

:lol: see Walter, that's what happens when you try something and you haven't a freakin' clue what you're doing! Here, try another slice and a global view: sure... why not just drop a link, say nuthin... and drive on by! :mrgreen:

that's deep! By the by, have you ever taken the time/effort to lay it all out... to, as you say, "relate it all"... to tie all those alternate pet theories of yours together in a cohesive manner? :mrgreen: Walter... why did you give me a reddie for this post: I'm simply quoting from Uncle...

your drive-by one? wealth distribution! Damn, who's running that world government wealth distribution show? It's just sooooooo pervasive! Uhhh... yours is a slight wrinkle as the distribution is usually portrayed as one towards developing nations... you seem to be singling out, as you say...