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I'm not preaching doom and gloom, I'm talking about taking the necessary steps to avoid it. I could care less about profits going to an industry that has seen its day and needs to be relegated to the history books. Science and technology has moved on and we're still stuck witht the same cheap...

Sounds to me like you think the worlds wealth belongs to the petrochemical industry. Let's put this in context, $100 million would have been a half a days PROFIT for one company, Exxon Mobil, in the second quarter of 2008. This from an industry that has a history of environmental distruction...

My god you're right, where do I sign up for the "oil is life" indoctrination you've so obviously incorporated into basic your personality? Once again I'm astounded, imagine Gore actually putting his beliefs into action, so what if the science is overwhelmingly behind him not to mention the...

BS Exxon(before the Mobil) put millions into getting the whole climate change denial movement going almost two decades ago, hiring hacks like Fred(secondhand smoke doesn't kill) Singer to set up some of the same "institutes" that are behind the garbage attacking the genuine research now. And...

Makes you wonder how much we've contributed to global warming with just this thread(it takes energy to run the internet)... it's probably what Walter and some of the other geniuses here intend.:lol:

Must be nice living off in a world of your own.

There's a circular argument here that reflects little of the reality of the issue. Most scientists are in agreement on the existance of climate change and it links to human generated greenhouse gases. We've got 'experts' here claiming the world is cooling.:lol:

Exxon got going on this issue in the early 1990s in a big way, they know how much a threat the climate change issue is to their profits.

It just watched the History channel documentary on prehistoric predators.:lol:

It's such a complex issue it's easy to cloud the important points with details taken out of context.

Right, it's the people working their butts off doing the baseline research who are getting rich. The sad fact is that recent history in our culture has seen more and more money going into less and less hands. One of the factors in the recent collapse of the world economy that doesn't get much...

I'm not sure it makes much difference, the resistance to facts of some of the posters here is simply amazing.8O

WHaaa? I think somebody just had a major brainfart... or maybe you actually think this way.:lol: First off the 'ecologists' present a far more representational slice of humanity than the tiny minorty who sit at the top of the whole fossil fuel industry heap. Ecologists are all of us who'd like...

Pro industry?, as far as I know the only industry involved in this issue is the fossil fuel industry and they're doing everything they can to suppress the science to maintain the status quo, not because it makes any kind of sense in the long term. As far as I'm concerned the people who are...

Always questioning the evidence is a key element in science, it's what allows it to move forward. This has allowed certain special interests- like the tobacco and fossil fuel lobby- to hijack the issue for a time. There needs to be debate, but it needs to be based on peer reviewed evidence, not...

The arguments against human generated climate change are as much a fabrication as the arguments against a tobacco cancer link for decades last century, and it's based on pure greed. Some of the same 'scientists'- like Fred Singer- have been hired by Exxon Mobile to just name one company to cloud...

I decided to consult an expert on the subject of the massive pine beetle outbreak in the west(I asked my sister who's worked in the field for several decades, her husband is also a forest-engineer, so is our dad, my brother has also been a forester with BC Forests for more than two decades, so...

Exactly my point, climate change has opened up vast new areas for the beetle to feed on. The beetle can now feed, breed and overwinter in places they could not sustainably do so in the recent past. Climate change isn't just a marginal contributor to the vast beetle infestation, it's the...

Some simple facts for those of you who don't seem get the pine beetle infestation- climate change link. - The beetle don't just feed on the pine, they spend most of their lifecycle under the pine bark. They depend on the pine for shelter to reproduce and survive harsh winter conditions. -...

What a load of nonsense, I've seen ten year old trees in my yard hammered by the beetle. The pine has always been there, the only major change has been lack of very cold winters to hit the beetle when they're most vulnerable, when they're hibernating. We also don't get the early and late...