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Ron in Regina

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Scroll up about a foot maybe, depending on the size of your phone or screen. Post #516. This isn’t a full-time job for me. This is something I do between things mostly on the weekends, or with my 120 second mental health/nicotine fix breaks during the weekdays, or some downtime in the evenings, etc…
 

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Scroll up about a foot maybe, depending on the size of your phone or screen. Post #516. This isn’t a full-time job for me. This is something I do between things mostly on the weekends, or with my 120 second mental health/nicotine fix breaks during the weekdays, or some downtime in the evenings, etc…
Its pretty simple to fact check before you post rather than wasting your and my time defending shit debunked long ago. The proxy thing was debunked Oct 10 2023. 3 fucking days. 3 days after Oct 7.

741 days of insisting the same shit over and over as true that isn't true doesn't look good on you.

If it comes from AI it can all linked the old fashioned way. Some quoted info can come from hundreds of links. If I post 200 links, will you follow all of them? No, but you can click the one link to all of them. If you don't like the way a question is asked, ask your way. You're falling behind.
 
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Ron in Regina

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(YouTube & Israel's Game Plan Shatters: Iran’s Game-Changer Stuns the World)
1763172030691.jpegWell, real or not, hasn’t Iran just placed a giant bullseye on itself. I wonder if they can convince the Taliban that they aren’t exaggerating things?
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…or Maybe…Iran does have this capability.
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Weird how the turn tables…
 

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(YouTube & Israel's Game Plan Shatters: Iran’s Game-Changer Stuns the World)
View attachment 31999Well, real or not, hasn’t Iran just placed a giant bullseye on itself. I wonder if they can convince the Taliban that they aren’t exaggerating things?
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…or Maybe…Iran does have this capability.
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Weird how the turn tables…
Wikipedia and Instagram didnt update in the last 12hrs but AI had it. Time to park the Model T.


Iran has reportedly developed the Khorramshahr-5 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), which is claimed to have a range of 12,000 kilometers. If verified, this would enable Iran to strike targets across continents, including the mainland United States and Europe.

Key Details
Missile Name: Khorramshahr-5 (a fifth-generation variant of the Khorramshahr family).
Claimed Range: 12,000 km.
Potential Targets: This range would put the mainland U.S., Canada, and all of Europe within striking distance if launched from Iran. Major U.S. cities are approximately 9,500-10,000 km from Iran.

Status: Iran has not yet confirmed a successful test of an ICBM with this specific range, but reports in mid-2025 indicated development or preparation for testing.

Other Capabilities: The missile is reportedly capable of carrying a heavy warhead weighing around two tons and achieving speeds of Mach 16.

Official Statements: Iranian officials and state media have made claims about the missile's capabilities, framing it as a strategic deterrent.

Context
While the development has significant strategic implications, external military analysts and intelligence communities often view such claims with caution. The actual, proven capabilities are a subject of ongoing assessment, and the U.S. intelligence community has previously noted that Iran had not flight-tested an ICBM capable of reaching the United States.

Previously, Iran's declared range limit for its operational missiles was generally considered to be around 2,000 kilometers, sufficient for targeting regional adversaries like Israel and U.S. bases in the Middle East. The potential 12,000 km range represents a significant leap in its strategic deterrence posture.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Bullseye for who and why? Is somebody itching to have Iranian missiles whistle past the air defenses like last time?
If this is an “All roads lead to Israel” thing, then a boast of a 12,000km range wouldn’t be advantageous as a boast of 2000kms would be sufficient. This is more of a veiled threat to France and the UK, etc…& they’re both real nuclear powers…as are Pakistan and India and China and Russia that (in theory) are now in that radius of 12,000kms.
1763219306989.jpegIs somebody way further away than Israel from Iran itching to have Iranian missiles whistle to or past them? Europe or the east coast of North America itching for Iranian missiles to wiz by or to them? Is it Newfoundland? Is Newfoundland itching for Iranian missiles?

(Should this new missile system be operational or even partially so, it would represent a leap well beyond Iran’s known medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) capabilities. Current systems, such as the Khorramshahr-4, are believed to reach no farther than 2,000–3,000 kilometers, largely covering Gulf Cooperation Council states, Israel, and parts of Eastern Europe. A jump to 10,000 kilometers would require advances in propulsion, multi-stage launch architecture, and re-entry vehicle (RV) survivability—technologies previously thought beyond Iran’s reach)

Tehran has a history of exaggerating the capability and readiness of new weapons systems. No flight-path data, impact footage, or telemetry tracking has accompanied this latest announcement. The missile's warhead capacity and terminal guidance accuracy remain unclear. There is also no indication whether the warhead is conventional or intended for future nuclear delivery, though Iran continues to deny any active nuclear weapons program.
1763222895141.jpegIs directly threatening Orange Jesus right in the ego in Irans best interests? Iran has a history of using strategic ambiguity to magnify perceived capability, and the timing of this announcement suggests a deliberate attempt to shape global perceptions.
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U.S. and Western intelligence agencies have long warned that Iran’s space program functions as a masked laboratory for ICBM-ready technologies.

Despite the long-standing Iranian political declaration limiting missile range to around 2,000 kilometers, the new claim indicates that Tehran’s ambitions have evolved well beyond its previous self-imposed doctrine.

The shift from regional strike concepts toward a global reach capability aligns with Iranian strategic writings that emphasize deterrence through uncertainty and layered retaliation.
Western assessments from 2025 estimated Iran could field a militarily viable ICBM by 2035 through conversion of SLV technologies, but the present claim compresses that timeline by a decade.
 

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If this is an “All roads lead to Israel” thing, then a boast of a 12,000km range wouldn’t be advantageous as a boast of 2000kms would be sufficient. This is more of a veiled threat to France and the UK, etc…& they’re both real nuclear powers…as are Pakistan and India and China and Russia that (in theory) are now in that radius of 12,000kms.
View attachment 32004Is somebody way further away than Israel from Iran itching to have Iranian missiles whistle to or past them? Europe or the east coast of North America itching for Iranian missiles to wiz by or to them? Is it Newfoundland? Is Newfoundland itching for Iranian missiles?

(Should this new missile system be operational or even partially so, it would represent a leap well beyond Iran’s known medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) capabilities. Current systems, such as the Khorramshahr-4, are believed to reach no farther than 2,000–3,000 kilometers, largely covering Gulf Cooperation Council states, Israel, and parts of Eastern Europe. A jump to 10,000 kilometers would require advances in propulsion, multi-stage launch architecture, and re-entry vehicle (RV) survivability—technologies previously thought beyond Iran’s reach)

Tehran has a history of exaggerating the capability and readiness of new weapons systems. No flight-path data, impact footage, or telemetry tracking has accompanied this latest announcement. The missile's warhead capacity and terminal guidance accuracy remain unclear. There is also no indication whether the warhead is conventional or intended for future nuclear delivery, though Iran continues to deny any active nuclear weapons program.
View attachment 32007Is directly threatening Orange Jesus right in the ego in Irans best interests? Iran has a history of using strategic ambiguity to magnify perceived capability, and the timing of this announcement suggests a deliberate attempt to shape global perceptions.
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U.S. and Western intelligence agencies have long warned that Iran’s space program functions as a masked laboratory for ICBM-ready technologies.

Despite the long-standing Iranian political declaration limiting missile range to around 2,000 kilometers, the new claim indicates that Tehran’s ambitions have evolved well beyond its previous self-imposed doctrine.

The shift from regional strike concepts toward a global reach capability aligns with Iranian strategic writings that emphasize deterrence through uncertainty and layered retaliation.
Western assessments from 2025 estimated Iran could field a militarily viable ICBM by 2035 through conversion of SLV technologies, but the present claim compresses that timeline by a decade.
Why do they need to initiate an attack on Israel when Israel is destroying itself from the inside out?

They've already proven their missiles whistle past Israeli air defence, they can already fuck them up bad without nukes.
 

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Why do they need to initiate an attack on Israel when Israel is destroying itself from the inside out?

They've already proven their missiles whistle past Israeli air defence, they can already fuck them up bad without nukes.
Why does this have to have anything to do with Israel whatsoever when a threat of a 2000km missile range is all that’s needed regarding Israel? Maybe this is something non-Israel? I know it sounds crazy but…
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1763226045605.jpegAs much as Iran obsesses over Israel as a regional competitor and something that’s non-Muslim in the neighbourhood, Iran has other competitors like Saudi Arabia, thats a different flavour of Muslim, that’s a direct competitor close to home, but you’re not obsessing over them.
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Iran wouldn’t need a 12,000km range ICBM to directly threaten Saudi Arabia either.
(YouTube & Iran’s 10,000km Missile Claim — A Global Game Changer and it’s pointy)
(YouTube & "The missile is too round, it needs to be pointy!")
 

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Why does this have to have anything to do with Israel whatsoever when a threat of a 2000km missile range is all that’s needed regarding Israel? Maybe this is something non-Israel? I know it sounds crazy but…
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View attachment 32010As much as Iran obsesses over Israel as a regional competitor and something that’s non-Muslim in the neighbourhood, Iran has other competitors like Saudi Arabia, thats a different flavour of Muslim, that’s a direct competitor close to home, but you’re not obsessing over them.
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Iran wouldn’t need a 12,000km range ICBM to directly threaten Saudi Arabia either.
(YouTube & Iran’s 10,000km Missile Claim — A Global Game Changer and it’s pointy)
(YouTube & "The missile is too round, it needs to be pointy!")
You brought up Israel.

Tell me, why does Israel need an 11,000km ICBM? Cuz France and UK are a threat?
 

Ron in Regina

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You brought up Israel.
I guess I did, here:
If this is an “All roads lead to Israel” thing, then a boast of a 12,000km range wouldn’t be advantageous as a boast of 2000kms would be sufficient.
My bad.
Tell me, why does Israel need an 11,000km ICBM? Cuz France and UK are a threat?
Does Israel have an 11,000km ICBM? That’s not come up here before as far as I know? Is Israel boasting about that or something? Shit, I mentioned Israel again, and just now again.
 

Ron in Regina

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Jericho III. Is France or UK a threat to Israel?
Huh. Well, I’ll take your word for that because I haven’t looked it up. Wouldn’t have known about it either, but maybe that’s because Israel isn’t bringing it up either? As of September 2025, 28 out of 193 UN member states do not recognize Israel's sovereignty or have severed all diplomatic ties.
Is France or UK a threat to Israel?
Are France or the UK one of these 28 countries that do not recognize Israel as a nation & assumably its right to continue to be one?
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Again, that’s probably just another coincidence, that 25 are predominantly Muslim and the other three are arguably socialist, but that’s a story for elsewhere.

Currently, neither France or the UK are predominantly Muslim. While the Muslim populations in both countries are growing at a faster rate than other religious groups, due to factors such as higher fertility rates and continued immigration, they are still a minority in both nations.

Anyway, this is a total sidetrack from a thread about “Iranically Iran, Middle East’s Karen…”
 

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Huh. Well, I’ll take your word for that because I haven’t looked it up. Wouldn’t have known about it either, but maybe that’s because Israel isn’t bringing it up either? As of September 2025, 28 out of 193 UN member states do not recognize Israel's sovereignty or have severed all diplomatic ties.

Are France or the UK one of these 28 countries that do not recognize Israel as a nation & assumably its right to continue to be one?
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Again, that’s probably just another coincidence, that 25 are predominantly Muslim and the other three are arguably socialist, but that’s a story for elsewhere.

Currently, neither France or the UK are predominantly Muslim. While the Muslim populations in both countries are growing at a faster rate than other religious groups, due to factors such as higher fertility rates and continued immigration, they are still a minority in both nations.

Anyway, this is a total sidetrack from a thread about “Iranically Iran, Middle East’s Karen…”
Is France or UK a threat to Israel? Yes? No?

28 eh? Do they have to?

Support Israel or else is fucking repugnant.