STDs rife among US teenage girls

Sal

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Now I wish I could find the article which discussed it... I would have read it around six months ago... how there are only a handful (2 I guess... lol), which cause severe complications in babies because they form in the throat, etc. So those are the ones that stats and research are focused on. But they said that if those HPV can be spread at birth then almost all could, just the others didn't manifest symptoms of concern.
lol...."Favourites" are your friend...lol....
 

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Oh, it's absolutely our detection methods. It's only very recently that we have an actual HPV swab that you can get, along with your pap smear, to see if the virus is present, not just the precancer cells. Before that, only the tiny percentage who got warts or cancer would have been included in the statistic. Now it's the broader group.
Not to mention, the shame, ignorance, or blind denial possible in the older generations.

These girls lay it right out there. My generation sure as hell didn't.
 

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Not to mention, the shame, ignorance, or blind denial possible in the older generations.

These girls lay it right out there. My generation sure as hell didn't.

Lay it out there and be honest, or die of cancer. I guess it's a good path to follow.
 

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I have only worked with and spoken of this with women so I can't comment on the male factor.

:lol: I guess I just figured it didn't take a conversation with a teenage boy to state the obvious: the girls aren't getting STDs and spreading them around without boys helping out. I wonder if we'd call the boys used...
 

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:lol: I guess I just figured it didn't take a conversation with a teenage boy to state the obvious: the girls aren't getting STDs and spreading them around without boys helping out. I wonder if we'd call the boys used...

I don't think most people would call the girls used tracy. I just glanced over that part, because I had no way of politely explaining my view on the term 'used cows'.
 

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:lol: I guess I just figured it didn't take a conversation with a teenage boy to state the obvious: the girls aren't getting STDs and spreading them around without boys helping out. I wonder if we'd call the boys used...
society never has before... isn't that how boyscouts collect merit badges.......no wait....that's something else....lol

.....somethings change slowly... at least we don't stone each other for rape....
 

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On a side note, I doubt anyone has done studies of STD's in predominantly Muslim countries. Particularly the the dictated ones.
Besides that Muslim women have their own health problems. Look up what the deficiency of Vitamin D can do to a person and then consider that Muslim women do not get ANY sun because of their mode of dress.
 

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The funny thing is the most judgemental person I know on this issue is the one who got an STD from her first partner. She talks about other girls as "dirty" and I've had to remind her more than once that she isn't exactly pristine. Hopefully those kinds of attitudes will change sooner rather than later.
 

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Part of what struck me as so neat about that article I can't find, is its push to move away from the term STD for HPV, due to its almost unpreventable nature (condom use doesn't prevent transmission very well), and move to the term HTD instead. Trying to remove some of the stigma so that women don't feel shamed when they need to seek medical attention. With modern society's understanding of medical issues, everytime a woman comes down with cervical cancer now, she knows she has this stigma.
 

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Part of what struck me as so neat about that article I can't find, is its push to move away from the term STD for HPV, due to its almost unpreventable nature (condom use doesn't prevent transmission very well), and move to the term HTD instead. Trying to remove some of the stigma so that women don't feel shamed when they need to seek medical attention. With modern society's understanding of medical issues, everytime a woman comes down with cervical cancer now, she knows she has this stigma.

The thing is that's true of herpes as well and the only way other than perinatal transmission to catch it is through sexual activity. HIV is spread by needles and blood transfusions more often than HPV is spread perinatally, but we still call it an STD. Most likely women who get HPV caused cancer did get it because they slept with someone who gave it to them. I don't think the solution is to start using euphamisms so she can somehow pretend she got it some other way. All that does is encourage the notion that the spread can't be prevented so don't bother trying (condoms aren't perfect but they work a lot of the time). Plus, human transmitted is just so vague and leaves people uninformed. The flu is human transmitted. Colds are human transmitted. I'm not going to get them the same way I'll get HPV.

The solution is to get over our strange attitudes about sexuality. I don't know why society has such a problem admitting that it is normal for humans to have sex and that anyone who isn't a virgin can catch those diseases.
 
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The solution is to get over our strange attitudes about sexuality. I don't know why society has such a problem admitting that it is normal for humans to have sex and that anyone who isn't a virgin can catch those diseases.

very good points tracy.
 

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The solution is to get over our strange attitudes about sexuality. I don't know why society has such a problem admitting that it is normal for humans to have sex and that anyone who isn't a virgin can catch those diseases.

but then again....is only doing oral considered still being a virgin?? and HIV and STD's can be trasmitted orally....if you are sexually active at all.... you stand a chance...
 

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but then again....is only doing oral considered still being a virgin?? and HIV and STD's can be trasmitted orally....if you are sexually active at all.... you stand a chance...

has anyone ever found any good reliable information on oral and STD transmission? I know we were always told 'just don't without a barrier', but I have never for the life of me been able to turn up reliable info on the true risk factors there.

Regardless though, oral would seem to me to fall into 'natural human sexuality'. Virgin or not. Sexually active is the term I think we need to be using with our kids, and placing a lot less emphasis on the V.
 

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One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated.

The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls.
Researchers analysed data from a nationally representative sample of 838 US girls aged 14 to 19.
A virus that causes cervical cancer - HPV - was the most common, followed by chlamydia, trichomoniasis and herpes.

More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7290088.stm
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Canadian teen girls are likely in the same percentage bracket. I've seen enough! They are on the pill, and off they go!! Who needs protection?? By the time they get married they are old cows already!!
Sorry, my sarcasm, but it is true for a great number of them.

At this point I would like to bring up the way western teens and tweens dress as compared to the Muslim females and the relation to sexual activities.
I think it goes without question that the young Western females dress to provoke the male species.

The Muslim females dress so as not to arouse the male.
Would be interesting to find out how sexual diseases compare in these two groups.
Does the Muslim male frequent the bordellos more often, or is he more controlled and can abstain?

Does anyone know anything about this subject?


Sorry I have not stats about STD's between Muslims and others but :

Why does the example of Muslim females predominate this issue ?

Well the answer is Muslim females are at present the most obvious example and contradition to the secular world. The ideal of Moslem women in their appreciation of modesty deserves our respect. The portrayl of imposed modesty of women in the Muslim world as an infringement of human rights is a matter for the individual to decide. It is intertwinded with culture, politics, control of society,( by force sometimes ), religion etc.

I would venture a resonable hypothesis : As the modesty, ie. guilt of exposure of the body decreased, STD's increased.

As far as Muslim men and lust, any historian worth his salt and I would recomment Durant, would tell you that lust among the Muslim male is not only a dominate theme in this world but into the world of paradise with the 72 virgins that they, no matter how many innocent people they kill, will be theirs.