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Outlaw Dante's Divine Comedy/ inferno because he placed Muhammad in Hell
Can you expalin this...
Outlaw Dante's Divine Comedy/ inferno because he placed Muhammad in Hell
Can you expalin this...
a question to jimmoyer
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I never actually read dante's inferno.....But i know of it and it's place in literature...well vaguely cause i have not read it...oh oh getting tired and a lil too uhmmmmmm...should i clik and let the good people see me typing on empty......sure why not......zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Mohammed was found in the 2nd to last circle of Hell:
According to Dante Alighieri
CIRCLE 8 FRAUD: MALEBOLGE OF FRAUD (ten pockets or pouches for the ten kinds of malicious fraud)
Fraud starts at base of an abyss, so Dante and Virgil must descend on the back of the Fraud Monster, Geryon - Canto 17: 115, 116. Geryon has a pleasant face, a snaky body, to symbolize the pleasant first appearance of fraud and its twisted snaky dealings.
According to Dante Alighieri
CIRCLE 8 FRAUD: MALEBOLGE OF FRAUD (ten pockets or pouches for the ten kinds of malicious fraud)
1.Panderers, Seducers2.Flatterers3.Simoniacs (sell church favor)4.Fortunetellers5.Grafters (sell political favor)6.Hypocrites7.Thieves8.Evil Counselors9.Sowers of Discord10.Falsifiers (Alchemists & Counterfeiters)
Bolge 1Panderers and Seducers (Jason)Bolge 2Flatterers are sunk in excrementBolge 3Simonists trade the grace and favor of the church for money - Canto 19: 47, 48. Their punishment is a kind of reverse baptism; they are upside-down in fonts (holes) and baptised by fire, not water; several popes here; NOTE: Dante criticizes popes BECAUSE he is a devout Catholic.Bolge 4Fortunetellers - they tried to foretell the future, so now their heads are on backwards.Bolge 5Grafters - Canto 22 - (grafters or barrators trade the powers and favors of their political office for money).Bolge 6Hypocrites - they wear gorgeous cloaks lined with lead; pretty outside, awful inside; heavy cloaks force them to behave sedately, although seething within (inner anger); cloak true character in false appearance.Bolge 7Thieves turning into snakes and snakes turning into thieves - Canto 24: 91, 92. Thieves steal other people's possessions; they cannot keep their own bodies.Bolge 8Evil Counselors - Ulysses and Diomedes helped to destroy Troy with the Trojan horse scam. Ulysses cut loose from all human ties (home, family, etc.) to sail to the edge of the world. Deceit and pride, virtues in Homer's Odysseus, have become Ulysses' sins in the Christian middle ages.Bolge 9Sowers of Discord - Mahomet, disembowelled. Dante thinks of Mohammed as a sinner whose religious beliefs led to discord and schism. Note the total intolerence for another religion; this is typical of the Christian middle ages and later; it led to many wars against those who believed differently (including different sects of Christians) and massacres of unbelievers as well as Christian heretics Another sower of discord was Bertram de Born, a Provencal troubadour poet - Canto 28: 121 - 123. He carries his head like a lantern because he used vicious scandals to separate Henry II of England from his eldest son. Therefore, his head is separated from his body.Bolge 10Falsifiers (alchemists and counterfeiters) - Canto 29: 79 - 81. Falsifiers include Sinon, the Greek in the Aeneid who let himself be captured by the Trojans and gave them a story about the Trojan Horse, which tricked them into bringing it into Troy. How far we've come from Greek heroes!
ANTAEUS hand-carries Virgil and Dante down to the last circle - Canto 31: 142,143] (Antaeus was a giant from Greek myth who accosted passing strangers and wrestled them to death, because he was invulnerable while touching earth. Hercules killed him by holding him in the air to weaken him and then crushed him.When God revealed the Quran to Mohammed, and chose him as an apostle; what is his fault then, this noble prophet and they hate him?
What is the sin which Gabriel did, when he brought the Quran revelation to Mohammed? That is because such revealing was only according to God's command.
What is the sin which Gabriel did, when he brought the Quran revelation to Mohammed? That is because such revealing was only according to God's command.
This is in the Quran 2: 97
قُلْ مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّجِبْرِيلَ فَإِنَّهُ نَزَّلَهُ عَلَى قَلْبِكَ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ مُصَدِّقاً لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَى لِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ .
The explanation: (Say, 'Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel? For he has come down with it [: the Quran] upon your heart, with God's permission, believing in that which is by his hands, and a guidance and glad tidings to believers.)
In case Mohammed went to Hell, where would they go: to Paradise?
Was that written in any heavenly book?
Have they gone to Hell and found him there?
Or are these only obvious lies forged by incessant liars, and instigated by a cunning one?
Was that written in any heavenly book?
Have they gone to Hell and found him there?
Or are these only obvious lies forged by incessant liars, and instigated by a cunning one?
God – be glorified – said in the Quran 2: 98
مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّلّهِ وَمَلآئِكَتِهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَجِبْرِيلَ وَمِيكَالَ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ عَدُوٌّ لِّلْكَافِرِينَ . وَلَقَدْ أَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ آيَاتٍ بَيِّنَاتٍ وَمَا يَكْفُرُ بِهَا إِلاَّ الْفَاسِقُونَ
The explanation: (Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and His apostles and Gabriel and Michael – then, surely, God is an enemy to the unbelievers.
We have sent down to you [Mohammed] manifest signs [of the Quranic revelations], and none will disbelieve therein except the evildoers.)
We have sent down to you [Mohammed] manifest signs [of the Quranic revelations], and none will disbelieve therein except the evildoers.)
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You would have to accept the Quran as a divine and singular wisdom, for that to be relevant.
And the fact that the Quran is based on the Old Testament and is viewed as a bastardisation by Mohammed, by many, it is pretty much subjective at best.
The manifestation of weak minds being directed by stronger ones at the cost of the masses.
The Quran is very much similar to the Torah [included in the Old Testament] specially the principal Ten Commandments, but not necessarily the same exactly; the Quran came to confirm and correct the alterations that had been added or distorted, and to make some statements easy for people. This is because the Sender is the same One God.
Now think it the opposite way: if the Quran is revealed from God will it come similar or different?
This is in the Quran 48: 5
Now think it the opposite way: if the Quran is revealed from God will it come similar or different?
This is in the Quran 48: 5
وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ فَاحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَاءهُمْ عَمَّا جَاءكَ مِنَ الْحَقِّ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا وَلَوْ شَاء اللّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلَكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِي مَآ آتَاكُم فَاسْتَبِقُوا الخَيْرَاتِ إِلَى الله مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
The explanation: ([O Mohammed] We have revealed to you the scripture [: the Quran] with [explanation of] the truth [with Gabriel, who is] confirming the scripture that is by his hands, and supervising it. So judge them according to what God has revealed [in the Quran], and do not follow their caprices, other than the truth that has come to you. To each [nation] of you [: Jews, Christians and Muslims] We have prescribed a divine program [to work accordingly] and a law [to judge accordingly.] If God wills, He can make you one nation [in the time of the Mahdi: the Paraclite]; but that He may try you in what [laws] He has given you [to see which of you obeys and which disobeys]; so race with each other in all virtues [before becoming disabled or ill]; to God['s judgment] shall you return altogether [after death]; and He will inform you of that [religious affairs] whereon you were at variance.)
The Ten Commandments In The Quran
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/#TenCommandmentsintheQuranThe Ten Commandments In The Quran
According to this way you may deny all the apostles like Moses and Jesus; but think it the other way when God chooses an apostle then He certainly knows who is more suitable and proper to carry the task of the apostlehood.
This is in the Quran 6: 124
اللّهُ أَعْلَمُ حَيْثُ يَجْعَلُ رِسَالَتَهُ سَيُصِيبُ الَّذِينَ أَجْرَمُواْ صَغَارٌ عِندَ اللّهِ وَعَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ بِمَا كَانُواْ يَمْكُرُونَ
The explanation: (God knows best where to place His message. There shall befall the criminals [: the chiefs who plotted to kill the messenger] humiliation before God [in the world of souls after their death], and grievous chastisement [in the Hereafter] because of their plotting.)
eanassirYou can stop preaching, I've read the Quran, the Bible (Old and New Testaments) and the Torah.
I'm not convertible. You'ld have better luck getting me to become a Scientologist.