Chicken Little Demands Apology Sky Falling

darkbeaver

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Deflation of currency is often caused by inflation in prices of commoditys among other factors. Kreskin your article is five years old, the economy isn't static, as you can see from comparison of the two posts in this thread, your post is "what was", my post is "what is".:smile:.
 

darkbeaver

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If one reads junk news, one gets junk forecasts. "The housing market is in terminal distress." This is the kind of nonsense that losers love. But real estate in the U.S. and Canada is about as solid as a rock. It has taken a dusting in the U.S. and C.I.B.C. is raising 1.75 billion to shore up theeir capital base because they were lending like drunken sailors in the U.S. C.I.B.C. will not fail, even though they'll take the largest ssingle hit.

Why, after a thousand failed forecasts, do people rely on nonsense? Because it is what they want to hear. They are desperate to see the failure of success. Why do they want America to fail, Canada to fail, our banks and our business, all to fail? Why do they love failure?

Because they are socialist losers. Why don't they give up when their dreams have not come true for the western world since Hitler? Because they are losers.

Jim, baby get a grip man, think of your heart, calm down, it's only money you know! No Jim I am not a "socialist looser" , I am still a capitalist by virtue of Canadian citizenship, whose National Religion is The Church of Capitalism, which you have declared by your own tongue in numerous posts, therefore any losses incured by Canadians will be "Capitalist losses". There will be legions of capitalist loosers sleeping in the streets, stealing turnips building cardboard houses and not one thin dime of the loss can be pinned on Socialism right.:lol:
 

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Deflation of currency is often caused by inflation in prices of commoditys among other factors. Kreskin your article is five years old, the economy isn't static, as you can see from comparison of the two posts in this thread, your post is "what was", my post is "what is".:smile:.
My post is you can yell disaster every day of the year for eternity and eventually you catch the economy in a downturn and pretend to make sense of yourself and other alarmists. That marxist claimed the first half of the decade would be in a depression. He probably wrote something similar in 1998, 1991, 1987, etc. These guys don't seem to get that they have no way of knowing what the economy or capital markets will do, are wrong on it most of the time, but they sell their stories based on the notion that every correction will result in the world being changed forever and we're all going to live outside a soup kitchen.

They're worse than the capitalists. ;-)
 

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DB, "Deflation of currency is often caused by inflation in prices of commoditys..."

Deflation is never caused by inflation of anything but supply. Are you making this up off the top of your head or is this off a socialist website? Name one reputable economist who has ever said anything remotely similar.
 

darkbeaver

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DB, "Deflation of currency is often caused by inflation in prices of commoditys..."

Deflation is never caused by inflation of anything but supply. Are you making this up off the top of your head or is this off a socialist website? Name one reputable economist who has ever said anything remotely similar.

Joe Stiglitz. (nobel prise winner)
 

darkbeaver

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Look for some butts Jim, call 911, get some smokes man, ran out, where the hell are your prioritys. I think I know what your problem is with economic reality. You seem to be " Supply Sider" a whacko Friedmanite, that cult of bunko artists are being driven out of villages and burned at the stake all over the world. You should hide in the basement for a couple of months while you grow a big beard. Get smokes first.:lol:
 

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Jan 8, 2008, Joeseph Stiglitz, 'STAGFLATION COMETH', "The world economy has had several good years. Global growth has been strong, and the divide between the developing and developed world has narrowed, with India and China leading the way, experiencing GDP growth of 11.1% and 9.7% in 2006 and 11.5% and 8.9% in 2007, respectively. Even Africa has been doing well, with growth in excess of 5% in 2006 and 2007.

If you truly run with Stiglitz, why are you saying the sky is falling?
Where can I find Stiglitz saying commodity price inflation is a deflationary factor?

The increase in supply value relative to currency supply, the material reality outstripping the monetary recognition, causes deflation. This is simply supply and demand stuff, nothing one needs a PHD to figure out, nor is it Reaganomics.

Stiglitxz is calling a slowdown towards recession, with inflation. Stagflation.
 

darkbeaver

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My post is you can yell disaster every day of the year for eternity and eventually you catch the economy in a downturn and pretend to make sense of yourself and other alarmists. That marxist claimed the first half of the decade would be in a depression. He probably wrote something similar in 1998, 1991, 1987, etc. These guys don't seem to get that they have no way of knowing what the economy or capital markets will do, are wrong on it most of the time, but they sell their stories based on the notion that every correction will result in the world being changed forever and we're all going to live outside a soup kitchen.

They're worse than the capitalists. ;-)

Watch your tellyvision Kreskin, today is a bad day, some benchmarks have been reached. Eternity is a long time for good times man, we had to be right some time and I along with thousands of very competant economists and bankers say it's now, buy some gold before it's to late man. It's about economics Kreskin, not ideologys, Marx was an economists and a fine one his forcast for capitalism is dead on and always has been, that's always been the reason for the hate of socialism and communism. The science of economics itself support Marx, Friedman and co; were seriously mistaken. This downturn as they put it has very signifigant differences from those of the past, one being what the market can bear, remember there is virtually no industrial base left it's all gone offshore, the service industry cannot produce, the means of production are gone, have been for twenty years or more. The whole American economy has been credit based, it's bankrupt, kaput. It wasn't me honest.:lol:
 

darkbeaver

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Jan 8, 2008, Joeseph Stiglitz, 'STAGFLATION COMETH', "The world economy has had several good years. Global growth has been strong, and the divide between the developing and developed world has narrowed, with India and China leading the way, experiencing GDP growth of 11.1% and 9.7% in 2006 and 11.5% and 8.9% in 2007, respectively. Even Africa has been doing well, with growth in excess of 5% in 2006 and 2007.

If you truly run with Stiglitz, why are you saying the sky is falling?
Where can I find Stiglitz saying commodity price inflation is a deflationary factor?

The increase in supply value relative to currency supply, the material reality outstripping the monetary recognition, causes deflation. This is simply supply and demand stuff, nothing one needs a PHD to figure out, nor is it Reaganomics.

Stiglitxz is calling a slowdown towards recession, with inflation. Stagflation.

Thanks for straightening me out on that Jim. scratchscratch puffpuffpuff ahaahhahahahha a smooth manly taste you can call your own puffpuff ahahahahahahaha:lol:
 

jimshort19

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DB, "... remember there is virtually no industrial base left it's all gone offshore, the service industry cannot produce, the means of production are gone, have been for twenty years or more. The whole American economy has been credit based, it's bankrupt..."

The American economy has been on a roll. Now it's slowing down. While your prognostications are generally rediculous let's focus on one at a time.

DB, "...the service industry cannot produce..."

That would explain the hamburger shortage. All the MacDonalds are closed.
 

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I have an idea. Socialist cigarettes. They're already illegal and we haven't even introduced them yet. The bastards. But in theory they cost 50 cents a pack, the same as they cost to make plus 25 cents for us.
 

darkbeaver

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DB, "... remember there is virtually no industrial base left it's all gone offshore, the service industry cannot produce, the means of production are gone, have been for twenty years or more. The whole American economy has been credit based, it's bankrupt..."

The American economy has been on a roll. Now it's slowing down. While your prognostications are generally rediculous let's focus on one at a time.

DB, "...the service industry cannot produce..."

That would explain the hamburger shortage. All the MacDonalds are closed.

Cheeseburgers, somehow I new it would come down to junk food, what esle Jim should everybody fly down to Dizzy World with the family. Cheesburgers are not motor vehicles or tractors, machines, gizmos of every kind are produced offshore in a communist country where the evil American socialist workforce cannot screw up the capitalist sweet deal buy insisting on a living wage and five million new jobs that don't have anything to do with fries and a coke.
It's roll and it's reserve currency fraud, that's what it's floated on for decades, that has required liberal application of explosives.
 

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bluckbluckbluck TSX down one-thousand points in one week, wipes out earnings of entire previous year, that's called a crash I think. bluckbluckbluckcoughhahahahaha:lol:

:lol::lol::lol: I'll stay permanently underneath my desk! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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I'm completely unconcerned.

I know the millionaires and billionaires in America will save us all.

Think Depression Era...who had the money then...the wealthy.

It's simply a matter of pandering to the wealthy once again...no biggy...
 

darkbeaver

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I'm completely unconcerned.

I know the millionaires and billionaires in America will save us all.

Think Depression Era...who had the money then...the wealthy.

It's simply a matter of pandering to the wealthy once again...no biggy...

I got a book here on somewhere on advanced pandering, I suppose I should dig it out.
 

darkbeaver

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TSX closes 600 pts down on the day as the bell rings in Toronto. 5% of the market went down the tubes, 500 pts in the first three minute this morning billions gone oops bluckbluckbluckbluck

I think they said 60 billion, that's a lot of money ain't it.
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is This The Big One? [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By Mike Whitney [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]21/0[/FONT]1/08 "ICH" --- - On [FONT=Times New Roman, serif] Monday, fears of a US recession spilled over into Asian markets sending stocks tumbling. Indexes were hammered across the board in what turned out to be the worst day of trading since 2001. In India, the Bombay Sensitive Index plunged 1408 points, to 17,605. In China, the Shanghai Composite dropped 266 points (or 5.5%) to 23,818, while in Japan, the Nikkei fell 535 points, to 13,325 points. The bloodletting stretched across the continent and into Europe where shares nosedived by more than 4% by mid-morning “putting them on track for their biggest one-day fall in more than four and a half years.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The huge sell-off is a sign that global investors do not believe that the Fed's rate cuts or President Bush's $150 billion “stimulus package” can revive the flagging economy or breathe new life into the over-extended US consumer. After Monday's sharp downturn, the prospects for averting a deep and protracted recession are slim to none. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Economics Professor Nouriel Roubini summed it up like this nearly a month ago: [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“The United States has now effectively entered into a serious and painful recession. The debate is not anymore on whether the economy will experience a soft landing or a hard landing; it is rather on how hard the hard landing recession will be. The factors that make the recession inevitable include the nation's worst-ever housing recession, which is still getting worse; a severe liquidity and credit crunch in financial markets that is getting worse than when it started last summer; high oil and gasoline prices; falling capital spending by the corporate sector; a slackening labor market where few jobs are being created and the unemployment rate is sharply up; and shopped-out, savings-less and debt-burdened American consumers who — thanks to falling home prices — can no longer use their homes as ATM machines to allow them to spend more than their income. As private consumption in the US is over 70% of GDP the US consumer now retrenching and cutting spending ensures that a recession is now underway. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]On top of this recession there are now serious risks of a systemic financial crisis in the US as the financial losses are spreading from subprime to near prime and prime mortgages, consumer debt (credit cards, auto loans, student loans), commercial real estate loans, leveraged loans and postponed/restructured/canceled LBO and, soon enough, sharply rising default rates on corporate bonds that will lead to a second round of large losses in credit default swaps. The total of all of these financial losses could be above $1 trillion thus triggering a massive credit crunch and a systemic financial sector crisis.” ( Nouriel Roubini Global EconoMonitor) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] Decades of stagnant wages have left the American worker hamstrung and unable to continue to account for 25% of global consumption. Tightening credit and lack of personal savings have only added to his problems. The American consumer is tapped-out. That means that aggregate demand will fall dramatically across the world triggering increases in unemployment, decreases in capital expansion, and widespread slowdown in business activity. These are the beginnings of a deflationary spiral that will wipe out trillions of dollars of market capitalization in the real estate, equities and bonds markets. Even gold and oil will retreat significantly. (as we saw in Monday's results)[/FONT]