Most Animal Rights Activists Support Abortions.

[Kreskin]

Kreskin:

Now you know this makes no sense:

Is there any controversial position that can't be shown as hypocritical? I've yet to find one.

Of course there is no synonymous relationship between these two words. Copernicus was hypocritical? Not from my reading. Darwin? Nope. Martin Luther - not that I can tell.

'Course I could be wrong.

Pangloss

Well certainly not in the arenas of human reproduction. Whether one is pro-choice or pro-life chances are one also believes in something else controversial that could be pointed to as hypocritical. Some of the great proponents of the Iraq war are 100% pro-life.

 

[Josephine]

So simple and yet you managed to get them wrong.

It hasn't been born, you are correct about that, but it is indeed "alive" and we don't send pregnant women to mars, so they must be "on the earth".

Actually you can't really state that the fetus is "alive". Doctors and scientists have yet to conclusively prove when "life" begins, so that's not a real arguement.

So far it's only a matter of opinion.

 

[s243a]

Actually you can't really state that the fetus is "alive". Doctors and scientists have yet to conclusively prove when "life" begins, so that's not a real arguement.

So far it's only a matter of opinion.

Is a bacteria alive? Is the fetus alive if it can survive outside of the womb? Is someone on life support alive? Is anything really alive as all life depends on something external for its existence.

 

[s243a]

Well certainly not in the arenas of human reproduction. Whether one is pro-choice or pro-life chances are one also believes in something else controversial that could be pointed to as hypocritical. Some of the great proponents of the Iraq war are 100% pro-life.

These arguments get tiering. They focus only on what is the same but not what is different. Argument by analogy is a very week form of argument.

 

[TenPenny]

So how is this non-argument going? Still nowhere, I assume?

Yawn.

Time to go watch paint dry; at least that accomplishes something.

 

[tracy]

I am not saying that they do not suffer. I am saying they suffer very little. I have been there,I have participated in the demise(a kinder and gentler word)of many cattle and hogs. I do understand your argument,have you read my post objectively? Do you HONESTLY think that pigs and chickens actually look at thier surroundings and are pining for the babbling brooks and open pastures of thier ancestors?

You could say the same for aborted fetuses/embryos, but I still don't see what one has to do with the other. Why can't you be for humane treatment of animals and still believe that abortion should remain legal. They are separate issues.

 

[Pangloss]

Tp: I'm kind of with you on that. . .think I'm gonna turn into a femme gay, just so I can pass the evening painting my toenails. . .

Pangloss

 

[Tim Hamilton]

Actually you can't really state that the fetus is "alive". Doctors and scientists have yet to conclusively prove when "life" begins, so that's not a real arguement.

So far it's only a matter of opinion.

Yes, actually you can. Something is deemed to be alive when it has cells replicating and dividing. This is not a matter of opinion, it's a widely accepted scientific fact. This is the standard that separates all living from non-living things and fetuses are no exception.

The abortion debate centers around whether or not it is a "person", but there is no debate about whether or not it is alive. Biologically and scientifically speaking, there is no question at all that it is alive.

 

[s243a]

Yes, actually you can. Something is deemed to be alive when it has cells replicating and dividing. This is not a matter of opinion, it's a widely accepted scientific fact. This is the standard that separates all living from non-living things and fetuses are no exception.

The abortion debate centers around whether or not it is a "person", but there is no debate about whether or not it is alive. Biologically and scientifically speaking, there is no question at all that it is alive.

So then my arm is alive? I just want to be clear on the definition. Purely semantics of course.

 

[gc]

It all comes down to choice... Your fetus, your choice. Do I think abortion is a wonderful thing that everyone should try? Of course not, but it's none of my business what someone else does with their own body.