Is God open to crticism?

[AndyF]

Now that we've given some thought as to the accountability and consistantcy of God, is he open to criticism?

Constructive or otherwise? Is there such a thing has two way constructive criticism with God ie: where you have a valid suggestion of what he could change, as well as a valid common suggestion of what you could change??

If admitedly, where does He say so? :read2:

(sorry for the spelling, just discovered you can't edit the title.! dang)

AndyF

 

[AndyF]

Now that we've given some thought as to the accountability and consistantcy of God, is he open to criticism?

Hee, hee just as I thought. Nothing but a cloud of dust remaining.

Wow even non believers have "somethin cookin on the stove right now". :laughing7:

Ok, I'll start. For one thing God is like your father. He's approachable and if respectful you can come on with a valid argument. Why I even had an Irish priest who thought getting mad at God once got him what he wanted, and recommended his congregation to try it. (It could be that he happened to be on God's good terms to start, but he didn't mention that.). Even Mary ignored Jesus's request to put things off and told the servers to fill the jugs with water, so that was a criticism of sorts. We criticize God every time we sin. We are saying by our acts that we are not in accordance with His rule.

I suppose one could hide the opinion and simply ask. It wouldn't matter anyway as God can see you formulate the words in your mind. He can see you agree with someone although openly you wouldn't admit it. I criticize God openly since I can't hide anything, but I wish I didn't have to. I think His justice system leaves something to be desired, although ironicly he's posted bail for me most of the time of my life. I don't simply come out and criticize. I give things much thought first and try to determine what instigates the thought through discernment. I make sure I am the motive and not some sinister being lurking in my self.

But hey, I'm an insignificant microbe, and there's nothing I can hide anyway, so I figure it's best just to tell it as it is and be myself.

AndyF

 

[gopher]

In the Old Testament, the Psalmist repeatedly screamed out, WHY? WHY? WHY? Obviously he was not at all pleased with the trials and tribulations he was subjected to. After the ordeal Jonah was put through, he angrily answers God and says he doesn't care if he is killed for openly defying Him. Thus, even the best of God's servants tell Him to His face -- no, it ain't worth it.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol
What an odd concept. Is a fantasy open to criticism? Easily answered, though: of course it is. My biggest criticism is that the fantasy is an A#! hypocrite.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

lol
What an odd concept. Is a fantasy open to criticism? Easily answered, though: of course it is. My biggest criticism is that the fantasy is an A#! hypocrite.

Agreed. My major criticism would be that he's given us no good evidence he even exists. If he really wants us to believe in him, he could do a much better job of selling the product. Besides, if he's perfect, why would he need our love and respect and worship anyway? The idea of god, in every form I've ever seen it expressed, is incoherent and illogical to me. He can't, for instance, be both omniscient and omnipotent, they're logically inconsistent. If he's omniscient, he knows exactly how he's going to intervene in the affairs of this world at all times and places, which means he can't change his mind, so he's not omnipotent. And if he *can* change his mind, then he doesn't know for sure how he's going to intervene, so he's not omniscient. Furthermore, any argument applied to the position that he's perfectly good but allows evil to exist for some inscrutable purpose of his own--the usual theological position--applies equally well to the opposite position, that he's perfectly evil and allows good to exist for some inscrutable purpose of his own. And finally, if we cannot with our limited intellects ever understand his motives and plans--again, the usual theological position--then ultimately we have no basis for claiming to know anything about him at all, no basis for judging whether the design of the universe, if any, is any good, no basis for any ethics and morality based upon his supposed opinions. That leads to specious and silly descriptions of him like "the ineffable ground of all being," a magnificently meaningless phrase.

Incoherent, illogical, specious, and in my view, fundamentally a delusion. It's a delusion generally approved of by most people and most societies, but that has nothing to do with its truth content.

 

[talloola]

Well, as I stated once before, I worry about them when they find out that there is "no" god, as they
will be lost, and feel abandoned, and it will take "us" many long years to help them out of their
dependency, so they can stand on their own, and be happy with their new found strengths. It will
happen, probably not in my time, but somewhere down the road, it is inevitable.