Im sorry did I miss something? I dont see anyone forcing a church or asking a church to create marrages. I see a group of people not being legal bound to each other in the same way man/wife marrages are. Its about being acknowledged.
Why are you against Gay marriage?
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Has nothing to do with us anyway, since this is a Canadian forum. The American laws do not have any bearing on ours.
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I agree with you. I am not comofrtable with children being raised by homosexuals.
The PC brigades will always be all over these types of comments, but frankly I agree with you. We pulled our daughter from her class just this year because the teacher was an open lesbian. I just wanted to share that so you know you're not alone. I do not really care if they are homosexuals, as long as they are quiet about it, especially in front of kids.
That wasn't my point. You and the other were talking about the USA, and my point was it had nothing to do with us here, so who cares(from our perspective)
That makes sense. One should teach the curriculum when one is a teacher, not teach personal views or lifestyle. Much the same as religion being referenced in the classroom. Leave the religious studies to the religious studies class or the comparative religions class. Leave the physics studies in the physics classroom, not the arts history classroom.
Exactly. This woman, a grade five teacher, was quite open about her sexuality. I am not a religious bigot by the way, but kids are very easily influenced and I resent others trying to teach them morals. That job is up tomy husband and me, in my opinion. I told her, you teach her math, reading and arithmetic, we'll teach her our values on sexuality. She told us we were homophobes, so we went to the principal and had our daughter removed to the other class.We followed up with a complaint to the Board.
This teacher was pissed off because before she came to our school she taught in the Ontario Catholic School Board. when she came out in the open, the Catholic board fired her. she tok them to court and lost on the grounds that as a teacher in the Catholic system she had to respect their values as per the Education Act. In short, only a moron would think this would be acceptable in a Catholic grade school.
Anyway, whatever of the two school systems, I believe the teachers sexual preferences have no place in theclassroom.
No teacher has a right to be flagerent about their sexual or religious orientation. I agree. I wont get into the Canadian thing with you because frankly im sick of defending myself. But I would suggest you read the intire thread and see how the conversation flows before you jump on my nationality.
What bothers me is when a teacher does NOT speak of it in class, yet parents pull their kids when they find out through gossip that a teacher is gay. My daughter's teacher is a lesbian. My daughter has no idea. And if she did, it would bother me only in the perspective that I would question how it had come up. If my daughter questions what a lesbian is, it's very simple to explain, and as long as a parent educates their child, then there's no reason to worry about it causing any problems for your child. I'd be more upset to realize ten years down the road, that my daughter had skewed ideas regarding homosexuals, because I failed to bring it up and educate her properly on the differences.
I had an English teacher in junior high.....we all KNEW she was gay.........just didnt care! She was a FAB teacher yanno one of those life changing type teachers. Taught us self respect and self worth. It was her tat got me to realise I was the only one that was going to get me out of the situation I was in. I started to challenge my abuser and it started to stop. Great person.
I'm glad you had that tam. It's a beautiful thing when someone can reach out and touch your life like that. I had one teacher, he was my physics teacher, who was incredible. His wife had been the victim of severe abuse as a child, and suffered multiple personality disorder. When I was showing problems with my mental health, he wa a huge support. He would pull me aside to discuss the importance of self worth and self esteem, and the harm created by letting simple little phrases slip into our life, such as "I can't believe I did that, I'm so stupid". He gave me a lot of insight into the ways to improve myself.
This is my point, not just in this thread but most of the threads Im passionate about......It only takes on second to reach out and be a light. Gay, straigh, pagan, christian, when you start demoralising people......keeping them seperate from the group, you dont only hurt them you hurt yourselves. Those people youve ridiculed, separated, are now wounded and that doesnt help society on the whole at all.
Im not saying this right but I hope you get the heart of it.
Concerning Gays.
What is mankind?
Kind: of man?
What is man?
It is a marriage! A marriage? Yes, between two opposites. Opposites? Why?
For this reason.
God wished to make “sons” for His kingdom made after His own image.
The earth is called “mother earth” because it is the mother of all living.
Eve is that mother, mother of all mankind. (The type)
Adam is the Father meaning the Spirit breath of God who breathe life into the earthen vessel and became one.
Hence, leave father and mother to become one?
It is a marriage between God and the earthen vessel of which both have become one living soul.
He created them both male and female for the purposes of replenishing the earth.
Replenish meaning to multiply.
Can two males replenish? Or two females replenish? Of themselves, neither can. (Specially designed feature)
The human specie must replenish itself in order to survive. Or become extinct!
So to be gay is a matter of choice and not a design malfunction.
And it goes against the designed feature in Gods creative process, therefore, mankind is discouraged from making that choice.
If it is against Gods design, then it is like all other things that are against His wishes: a sin.
Sin is a transgression of a designed rule.
Now, like stealing, murdering, blaspheming, being gay is no different in regards to sin.
Sin is sin any way one wants to look at it: or not.
God loves all sinners as sinners we all are. No discrimination, one over the other, sin is sin.
But God has provided a way of escape from this sin condition in His Son.
The Son holds the keys to heaven and hell, therefore none can enter except by Him.
And if He took upon Himself the sins of the world, then there is nobody being left out of the equation for salvation.
Gays included.
Well, then, what is there to live for if all are going to be saved anyways?
Well, live right: love God and neighbor, and if God requires us to live a certain way because of the strong desires of the flesh, then abide by it, and He will bless us.
God first, flesh second. Not the other way around.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
What is mankind?
Kind: of man?
What is man?
It is a marriage! A marriage? Yes, between two opposites. Opposites? Why?
For this reason.
God wished to make “sons” for His kingdom made after His own image.
The earth is called “mother earth” because it is the mother of all living.
Eve is that mother, mother of all mankind. (The type)
Adam is the Father meaning the Spirit breath of God who breathe life into the earthen vessel and became one.
Hence, leave father and mother to become one?
It is a marriage between God and the earthen vessel of which both have become one living soul.
He created them both male and female for the purposes of replenishing the earth.
Replenish meaning to multiply.
Can two males replenish? Or two females replenish? Of themselves, neither can. (Specially designed feature)
The human specie must replenish itself in order to survive. Or become extinct!
So to be gay is a matter of choice and not a design malfunction.
And it goes against the designed feature in Gods creative process, therefore, mankind is discouraged from making that choice.
If it is against Gods design, then it is like all other things that are against His wishes: a sin.
Sin is a transgression of a designed rule.
Now, like stealing, murdering, blaspheming, being gay is no different in regards to sin.
Sin is sin any way one wants to look at it: or not.
God loves all sinners as sinners we all are. No discrimination, one over the other, sin is sin.
But God has provided a way of escape from this sin condition in His Son.
The Son holds the keys to heaven and hell, therefore none can enter except by Him.
And if He took upon Himself the sins of the world, then there is nobody being left out of the equation for salvation.
Gays included.
Well, then, what is there to live for if all are going to be saved anyways?
Well, live right: love God and neighbor, and if God requires us to live a certain way because of the strong desires of the flesh, then abide by it, and He will bless us.
God first, flesh second. Not the other way around.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
CanadaRock
I am "the other" to which you refer - I was trying to clear up a perceived error for SelfActivated whether it is U.S. law or not has absolutely no bearing on the rude remarks you made. If I post
a note to another member regardless of its "import" to you....that is how forums work... at least
according to those who make the rules.
Should I let an error go by without comment because it has to do with American law? Because you say so?
We went down this road a few days ago about American participation here and not one member voted the Americans to pack up and leave.... Guess you were too late to add your opinion.
I often apologize when I irritate people. In this case I will not. I was invited to participate here months ago by the administrator.
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Yeah, that is something I would be concerned about, as everything is about "freedom of choice",which is fine with me, but when that child grows to an age where they a very aware of "who" the parents are, in relationship to "sexual choice" , then, in respect to the child, who "never" was able
to have the "choice" to say if they "wanted" to be raised by a homosexual couple or not. That child has been put in a very vulnerable position.
What if that child, then, does not want to be there, is uncomfortable with the situation, has his/her
own "certain" beliefs/feelings about homosexuality, cannot conform to the lifestyle of the parents.
I don't think that would be "unusual" at all, and I'm sure it has happened from time to time.
How would that be different from gay biological children growing up in conservative Christian households? They grow up to realize that their sexual beliefs don't mesh with those of their parents.
I saw your railing on Sanctus because he said he wouldn't condone a gay marriage nor wed two people of the same gender.