Quebec's Language Police Upset Over Legal "On The Run" Convenience Store Name

Numure

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Not sure about the overall 500,000 figure. As an example, if we look at the island of Montreal, the French speakers account for only 52.8% of the population. The rest comprise of English speakers and other ethnic groups. Many of the other established ethnic groups (such as myself) have adopted English as their second language (ex. East Indians, Filipinos, Greeks, Italians, Jews, Natives, South Africans ...etc). In summary, you can't group all non French speakers into the French speaking category.

500 000 Anglophones, and then another 500 000 allophones. The language the allophones speak (French or English) most of the time is only speculation, until you can provide proof.

My number are approximate, but if you wish me to prove them, I'll just dig out does statcan numbers.
 

Numure

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I really don't understand the mentality here. If you don't want to learn French, there are plenty of Provinces to choose from, even still you could live in Montreal and get by just fine. People would moan and complain if a french speaking Canadian demanded French service in a Province like Nova Scotia, but it's perfectly acceptable to expect English service in a predominantly French Province, where French IS the official language? Seems like a load of crap to me.

That being said, I do find the tactics here of trying to change a corporations slogan a little foolish, but I'm not from Quebec, so...

Well said. I do find it foolish as well. But alas, I believe their lack of cultural respect is even more foolish (Esso).
 

Mogz

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And it's comments like yours that just accelerate the cycle of alienation on both sides.

If Quebec is a cultural blackhole then the ROC is cultural dark matter...very hard to percieve.

Good. The faster the Queerbecers get annoyed with us anglo-pig-dogs, the faster they'll take their proverbial ball and go "home". Merde.
 

Mogz

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RIGHT ON...

Quebecers should be requried to obtain passports for travel throughout Canada in response to their whining about language...

Who need's em?

Mikey, you're like the son I never wanted, but will still take so I can get the cheque from the Government :evil3:
 

CDNBear

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What's with all the fuss? It's just more proof that Kebec is run by fascists and they will run over everything and everyone that does not lock step along with whom ever gets the title merry french Fuhrer. That must include major businesses of course.

I've posted enough proof of Kebec's nazi regime mentality. Why is this such a shock to anyone?

Is anyone shocked that there are Quebecuois in here defending it?
 

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CDNBear
Do you really think replacing ''C's'' by 'K's'' gives more weight to your futile rant?
Do you really know what Nazis were and how they operated?

Reads my lips.
There are laws that were legally adopted by democratically elected representatives.
You have 3 choices:
1) live with these laws.
2) fight as strong as you can to have these laws repelled democratically.
3) Move to whatever country whose name starts with a ''K''
 

CDNBear

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Do you really think replacing ''C's'' by 'K's'' gives more weight to your futile rant?
Do you really know what Nazis were and how they operated?

Reads my lips.
There are laws that were legally adopted by democratically elected representatives.
You have 3 choices:
1) live with these laws.
2) fight as strong as you can to have these laws repelled democratically.
3) Move to whatever country whose name starts with a ''K''
1) I replaced a "Q" with a "K".
2) It is the correct spelling of the name.
3) The law as it stands is in favour of ESSO's position, the actions of the nazi language cops, is only further proof that any regime under the banner of an independant Kebec, would be fascist, to say the least.
4) I'm not moving anywhere, this was my peoples home long before the French failed to spell Kebec correctly.
5) This law at its inception was not democratic and was shot down at the Supreme Court, then changed to fit the out lines of what the Supreme Court decided. It is barely legal in any reasonable interpretation of the law, anyone who is not a nazi ass, sees that.
6) The only futile ranting I have seen in this forum, is from fascist/racist Quebecuois and/or the defenders of the nazi Arab party's.

My posts are based on facts and evidence, something I have not seen come from any of the defenders of fascist Kebec and the ME.

Get over yourself, purile rantings are unbecoming of an adult.
 

CDNBear

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Would you mind sharing those facts with the adult world or would you prefer to keep on :pukeright: ?

Of course it's just puke. You must be a Quebecuois, anything that is not French is bad and therefore should be subjugated.<---Please note sarcasm.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/55356-quebecuois-showing-their-love-natives.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/54991-fascism-distinct-society-quebec.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/55226-apologize-else.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...-once-all-native-stance-soveriegn-quebec.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...6-international-law-native-quebec-claims.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/54990-exposing-quebecs-shameful-secret.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...ndivisable-then-their-rhetoric-so-canada.html

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...101-restricting-access-education-english.html



If you need more, I'm more then willing to dig up more proof, that an independant Kebec is going to be a fascist state. Native and non French people will be at the mercy of a Governemnt that has their obliteration in their hearts. As exampled in all the material linked above.
 

shannon

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''On the run'' is not acceptable according the the current regulation and will be fought in court if necessary.
You don't like the law as written?? Have it changed

Looks like you are arguing about a law in which you know nothing about, Jackd. Although I don't agree with Quebec's language laws as they promote segregation and deny civil liberties, I am nonetheless quite familiar with them. I can guarantee you that registered trademarks, English or French are quite legal in Quebec. "On The Run" falls in the same category as "Burger King", "Canadian Tire", Coffee Time", "Future Shop", "Golf Town", "Sam The Record Man", "Starbucks Coffee", "Music World" ...etc). The list is endless. Are you telling me that these businesses have illegal signs as well and should be required to take them down? Hah ... good luck!
 

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Good. The faster the Queerbecers get annoyed with us anglo-pig-dogs, the faster they'll take their proverbial ball and go "home". Merde.


Please don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, because you will just sue us if it does.
 

jackd

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Esso just announced they will not introduce their ''on the run'' program in Quebec.
They will even convert their TMR store back to the ''Marché express'', as it was before.



shannon:
Looks like you are arguing about a law in which you know nothing about,
You probably forgot Burger king, Canadian Tires and all other you mentioned never operated under a French name in Quebec. This was (past tense) not the case for Esso as they are operating the C'Store under the ''Marché express' banner.
maybe the little fine print in the law stating that a business can not change from a French to an English trade name for the same operation eluded you? :roll:

Esso keeps French name for Quebec convenience stores after outcry
Canadian Press

Monday, January 08, 2007


MONTREAL (CP) - Imperial Oil won't be changing the French names of its convenience stores in Quebec after all.
Officials at the oil giant had planned to rename their Marche Express stores in Quebec to On The Run to conform with its stores in the rest of the country. But French-language rights groups vowed protests and boycotts if the plan went ahead.
Robert Theberge, an Imperial Oil spokesman, says the company heard the complaints and will respect the wishes of consumers.
The name change would have affected stores at Imperial's 54 Esso gas stations in Quebec.
Jean Dorion, president of the Montreal chapter of the Societe St-Jean Baptiste, praised Imperial's decision.

© The Canadian Press 2007​
 

CDNBear

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I think most of you forget, its the liberals in power in Québec, linking this with seperatist...
And changing this law, due to the high density of separatist facsist, would be a death sentance. I wonder what the out come would be if the vote went like this...

Yes, signage laws should be abolished and a venue should be allowed to post signage directed at the clientel they wish to attract.


No, signage laws are fine, businesses should be forced to advertise prodominantly en francais, with only minor, to zero non french content.

And have the vote only in non french neighbourhoods, then in french nieghbourhoods, then compare the data.

I think we will see where the facsist mentality lays.
Esso just announced they will not introduce their ''on the run'' program in Quebec.
They will even convert their TMR store back to the ''Marché express'', as it was before.



shannon:

You probably forgot Burger king, Canadian Tires and all other you mentioned never operated under a French name in Quebec. This was (past tense) not the case for Esso as they are operating the C'Store under the ''Marché express' banner.
maybe the little fine print in the law stating that a business can not change from a French to an English trade name for the same operation eluded you? :roll:
Once again, a company has succome to the will of the squealing masses.

Besides Draconian, bearly constitutional laws, what was the offence here?

Why is it that the rest can post signage in the corporate anglais, byt ESSO is held to a different standard?

What purpose does it serve, it is still the same establishment, you still know what you can buy there?

Do you really feel that threatend by this?

Do you really feel that insecure?

Do you have such a lack of respect for your fellow Quebecuois, that you feel they would be lost and not able to figure out where to pay for their gas, because the stores name is en anglais?
 

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the funny thing is, if you go to france, you'll see some of the shops have english signs anyway, cos they know more people will recognise a sign in english than in french, cos the french mostly can read english and the english are all twats and can't grasp french.
 

CDNBear

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the funny thing is, if you go to france, you'll see some of the shops have english signs anyway, cos they know more people will recognise a sign in english than in french, cos the french mostly can read english and the english are all twats and can't grasp french.
Hmmmm,
How do I respond to that???

I guess the anglais are what they eat???
 

Sparrow

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Quebec's Language Police Upset Over Legal "On The Run" Convenience Store Name

I live here in Kebec and this morning I will be a little bit nasty on this subject, hope I don't get banned. To me this law was implemented to force the people to take pride in their language and force them to learn to speak and write it correctly. In order to do it the demonized the English, by saying that we stole the province from them and that we were assimilating them. However what they did not realize is that they would end up isolating many of their young people. Many of the young today a stuck in this province without jobs and cannot find jobs in industries that trade on the international market because they do not speak English (a complaint made by students at the University of Laval about 5 yrs ago). The other point I cannot understand is there are many ethnic groups here in Quebec (minorities) and they have be able to teach their children their native languages and keep their culture, but not the French Quebecer. They had to discriminate against the English to do it, I think this is lame. I was brought up and educated in English, my husband in French and we are both bilingual and our son was brought up in English & French, educated in English and he speaks three languages. This law has limited the possibilities of many French Quebecers and I think that is morally wrong. Seems to me they should want their children to have more opportunities for the future, in the world today people are learning more than one language and don't tell me English is well taught in the French schools because that is a CROCK I know from first hand experience. Language and culture are only lost when the people do not have enough backbone or pride to protect it. I could say a lot more but I better shutup before I insult someone.
 

CDNBear

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Nothing wrong with that post at all Sparrow. Nothing wrong with speaking from the heart with knowledge and experience as your facts.

I will back you up on the fact that anglais is not taught well and comes nowhere near the level of how french is taught in English Canada, especially Ontario. Where it is mandatory to graduate from high school.