Oddly enough, me the troglodite in your eyes, had been following a case out west, until the courst applied a publication ban. It was the premiss of my original arguement and the lead scenerio.
Who's right to choose, a womans right to choose.
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Or he was unaware of the pregnancy or kept away by the woman.
Your obtuse and Draconian way of thinking, is absolutely alarming.
Neither and no.
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Originally Posted by Ariadne
There are two ways to give you the equality you want.
1. permit men to force women to abort children
2. prevent women from having an abortion and thus level the playing field.
Which one are you advocating?
... or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining?
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Neither and no.
And again you bring up the abortion issue. Is that all you have? Your continued, childlike responses do you a disservice. I am not complaining, as you assert, that is your prejection of your hatred of men.
Let me ask you this,,,
Do you believe a lawyer that defends a rapist, murderer or thief. Does so because he/she advocates or supports those activities?
So far the only conclusion that can be drawn from the lack of addressing the issue and contiuously bring this back to abortion (of which your ficsation is desturbing), is that you neither understand how to answer the question or you are unable to. Which would it be?
Neither and no? So what is the solution. There's no point in complaining without having at least one constructive solution. You want equality, how do you propose the laws achieve this? I can't think of a third option ... but you must have one.
Sweetheart your tone is insulting and accusing of my character (although better have called me worse). Im not a lawyer (although I did start off as wanting to be one) My minds not logical enough. Im a liver of life and thats all I have to bring to the table. Life experiences. Id appreciate you not attacking my character again.
Namaste
Tam
Requesting facts and links to back up stated claims about the law is hardly insulting and accusatory. We can all pull nonsense out of a hat and say that because a friend of a friend said so, it must be true, but fortunately that's not how the world works.
Absolutely, she should bear the financial burden alone.
So now you can cry "What about the children".
I have many friends that grew up in single parent homes, with not so much as a single extra cent to spare. Oddly enough two own their own businesses, one is a lawyer, one is a RN, the last but not least, is a budding comic.
Life is what you make of it. If you sit back and moan about how hard it is on you, and continuously blame others(in your case men), then that is all you will get out of life, moaning and whining.
Stand up, shut up. Your choices are your choices, deal with them and move forword, not force someone else to look out for YOUR CHOICES.
What financial burden? We're talking about leveling the playing field with "opting out" choices. You claim that women can opt out and although you say you're not discussing abortion, abortion is the only "opt out" choice that women have which men don't have. So, should we force women to have abortions or make them illegal. That is the only way to level the legal game field.
Now if you would prefer to discuss whether men should contribute to the financial respsonsibilities of their children, that's obviously and entirely different discussion.
It is ABSOLUTELY how the world works Doll. Im not as learned as you Im sure but Im a Master at life, believe me. I meet more REAL people with REAL problems than most people. I use life as a teacher because books lie and polls are skewed. But thats me. you have the CHOICE to ignore my ignorant arse
most do. I found THIS accusitory I dont tell stories that arent true. Trueth is a HUGE part of my charecter
What about this link ... father falsely accused of sexual mollestation of children? What is your point? Where does it say anything about the laws governing birth parent custody of illegitimate children?
Woman A - Lives in poverty, fathers the child of Donald Trump
Man A - Donald Trump, sends her the opt out letter
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Woman A decides she wants Man A to help out with child care expenses and put aside an education fund for the child. Man A shows the woman the Libertarian enacted law that he doesn't have any obligation to support his own child and he in fact has fully opted out.
Make any sense?
Man A - Donald Trump, sends her the opt out letter
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Woman A decides she wants Man A to help out with child care expenses and put aside an education fund for the child. Man A shows the woman the Libertarian enacted law that he doesn't have any obligation to support his own child and he in fact has fully opted out.
Make any sense?
It is not the only option. Get a grip and get over whatever some man did to you and try staying in reality for a while.
Leveling the playing field could just as easily mean the woman support her choice by raising the child on her own.
Your ficsation with abortion is disturbing and a blatant attempt to hijack this thread to serve your anti abortion rhetoric. Give it up. It is leagl, it is not mid eveil and it is an option, taken thousands of times a year. GET OVER IT. I and the courts and thounsands upon thousands of people do not give one rats ass about your views on abortion. IT IS A LEGAL OPTION, GET OVER IT.
Men do not have a LEGAL option. Other then custody IF she carries it full term and does not want it.
Your just upset that you were screwed over by some guy, and now you want us all to pay, that's real objective, women do no wrong, men are all scum.
SelfActivated, you have mentioned your own situation a few times in this thread. Your particular situation has no bearing on the topic. You and he elected to part ways without any strings attached. Nowhere around this thread has anyone suggested big brother automatically appear. The only involvement comes when both parties can't come to terms with the situation.
Yep.
Man A is a college student, living on OSAP.
Woman A goes to court for support. wins
Man A, drops out and works at Burger King.
Woman A does not get much support.
Man A never reaches full potential.
Woman A never recieves more then 25 dollars a month.
Great three lives down the drain, for what? All should suffer, so that no one can live on and grow?
Good point, at least your not smearing me now.
Which situation? I have noted several in this thread and if its about my son that was several pages back........and your point NOW is?
This isn't about me. There is no reason for you to insinuate that I have been "screwed over by some guy" because I disagree with you. You want to discuss the legal issues, but then you jump over to talking about providing child support. When we discuss child support, you jump over to the "opt out" option that you believe women alone have. Everytime you don't have an answer, you avoid the point and toss out some insults.
One thing is clear ... you don't want a solution and you don't want to level the legal playing field ... you just want to whine and complain because men can't have sex without consequences. The bizarre thing is that you seem to believe that women can have sex without consequences.