The Democrats get control of the House

tracy

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One note from last nite's babbling (I loved watching the announcers fight among themselves hee)....

When the announcement came of the resounding House Win for the Dems, there was an immediate query from the Iraqi president to the U.S. Ambassador - that the U.S. was not going to pull out in a hurry under the new leadership.

Hmmmmmmm wasn't I reading last week that the Iraqis wanted the U.S. military out?

People and the government often want different things eh? Personally I think that would mean disaster for Iraq, but of course I'm no expert on the Middle East.

The elections were interesting, but I've always found American politics to be interesting... confusing too. I find it especially strange how campaigning goes when one party controls the congress or senate and another controls the white house. It seems like that would make it pretty tough to get things done, sort of like a minority government in Canada I guess.
 

thomaska

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I think you are watching too much O'Reilly Factor. Show some statistics that Child Molestation, Rape and terror crimes are significantly different when the dem's hold power?

See, this is what I mean. People have such short memories, I'm sure the most important thing on your mind is the fact that Britney Spears is now filing for divorce...I never said anything about the rates of the incidents just the Dems treatment of offenders...

So lets see:

They opposed the statute known as Jessica's Law because it prohibits sex offenders from living within 1000 feet of churches or schools. Well in their backyard of San Francisco, thats hard to do because of dense popultion. Do they care about the potential victims? Nope. They care that Mr. Rapist's civil liberties might be being violated.

Remember Clinton's tantrum about getting set-up on Fox news, well the truth hurts, why else would he get so mad?

The rapist too short for prison? Here the story. A liberal Judge, no surprise there:

LINCOLN, Nebraska (AP) — A judge’s decision to sentence a 5-foot-1 man to probation instead of prison for sexually assaulting a child has angered crime victim advocates who say the punishment sends the wrong message.
But supporters of short people say it’s about time someone recognizes the unique challenges they face.
Cheyenne County District Judge Kristine Cecava issued the sentence Tuesday. She told Richard W. Thompson that his crimes deserved a long prison sentence but that he was too small to survive in a state prison.
Though he could have been sentenced to 10 years behind bars, he ended up with 10 years of probation instead. On Thursday, the state’s attorney general, Jon Bruning, promised to appeal within two weeks, calling the sentence far too lenient.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/26/judge.flap.ap/

Now Bush will get his illegal amnesty bill passed, which I whole-heartedly disagree with. But on the bright side, I suppose enrollment in piloting schools in Florida will skyrocket...

So now you go ahead and show me some proof that Democrats are the tough Party when it comes to crime. If you can find any
 

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Of course you know this means nothing but Vetos until Pres Bush is out of office..so American politics will be at a standstill until the next Presidential elections, and if another Republican gets into the white house..we'll be spinning our wheels for years...

Yes there will be vetoes, probably lots. But Congress can overide a Presidential veto.

No excuses... the Dems have control. The whining is over and it is time to put their money where their mouth is.
 

thomaska

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Yes there will be vetoes, probably lots. But Congress can overide a Presidential veto.

No excuses... the Dems have control. The whining is over and it is time to put their money where their mouth is.

Thats true. I'm anxious to see the grand plan they have for fighting terrorism that they've kept under wraps for so long now. I'm sure Aspirin Factory managers in the Sudan are very nervous also.
 

DurkaDurka

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How many Democrats opposed Jessica's Law?

What is tough on crime for you? Try'em and hang'em by noon? Texas Style!
 

Kreskin

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I hope Bush isn't too short for San Quentin. He's taller than he looks.
 

DurkaDurka

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Thats true. I'm anxious to see the grand plan they have for fighting terrorism that they've kept under wraps for so long now. I'm sure Aspirin Factory managers in the Sudan are very nervous also.

Like the republicans had a plan? Other then rubberstamping whatever GW pass their way?
 

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I am anxious to see what they will do in Iraq. This is what their platform was based on.

Now that the elections are over I think... I THINK... the low gas prices we have been enjoying will shoot up.
 

thomaska

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Like the republicans had a plan? Other then rubberstamping whatever GW pass their way?


I'll use a move from your playbook, show some stats that they didnt have a plan.

There are some silver linings, you dems didnt get evrything you wanted, this is from Michelle Malkin's website so the credit goes to her, I couldn't say it better

"The GOP lost. Conservatism prevailed. "San Francisco values" may control the gavels in Congress, but they do not control America. Property rights initiatives limiting eminent domain won big. MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed resoundingly. Congressman Tom Tancredo, the GOP's leading warrior against illegal immigration--opposed by both the open-borders Left and the open-borders White House--won a fifth term handily. Gay marriage bans won approval in 3 states. And as of this writing, the oil tax initiative, Prop. 87--backed by deep-pocketed Hollywood libs, is trailing badly in California"

So you dems didn't manage to get everything you wanted while you were waving the "Iraq is Vietnam" flag to distract people.
 

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The Reps will not control the Senate. I still believe at the very least it will be a tie or the Dems may actually gain control. But honestly, it's immaterial. To really control the Senate you need 60 +.

The House is an extremely important branch of government. If you control the House, you control the legislation being submitted, you are running committees and subcommittees. You chair investigations.

It's a great victory. Go Dems go!!!!
Indeed.

This is great news.
 

EagleSmack

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Like the republicans had a plan? Other then rubberstamping whatever GW pass their way?


So are you saying that the Democrats don't need a plan? They do not have to have a response to terrorism?

Whether you agreed with Bush's actions and response to terrorism is neither here nor there. It is obvious that Bush had a plan. The US invaded two countries and have been snatching people all over much to the chagrin of the world. Again whether you liked it or not is your own opinion. You are entitled to it.

What I am saying is now the Dems truly have control of the government. They have earned it. They got the votes and the GOP didn't. Although just to get them going I should whine about how they stole the election and have no facts to back it up. Fair is fair. :D

But seriously, they have the reigns. It is their time. They have been crying foul since the mid-90's and now they have to shift from "Blame Bush" and "Blame the GOP" for everything. It is time for results.
 

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Even the Democrats know that leaving Iraq can cause even more of a problem than
headlined now.

For all those who desire immediate withdrawal, they probably have not desired to think
what that action will cause in Iraq ---- just as hideous as the non-thinking aftermath of the invasion.
 

thomaska

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Thought this was funny...


 

thomaska

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What exactly are "San Francisco values"?

Here they are:


Turn in all your guns
Banish God
State sanctioned murder of the most powerless of life
Your money is really the states money
All whites, Christians, heterosexuals and males are evil

:D Just kidding, I know it isn't that bad, but if this happened, I daresay the Dems wouldn't be too broken up about it.
 

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You know I have been reading these posts on this thread and quite frankly I'm a bit shocked.

The Republicans have controlled Congress for 12 years. The President has been in power for 6 years.

What have they done for We The People? Do my fellow Americans remember that infamous phrase?

I remember a President-Elect in 2000 claiming he will be a unifying force and bring everyone together for the good of We The People. Can any of you honestly say he has reached across party lines with We The People in mind? He was incapabale of reaching within party lines, let alone across them.

He has done nothing, NOTHING, but polarize our great country. He has taken us to war in a country that was NEVER a pressing issue. No there was no pressing issue. But fine, we are there, and we have to deal with it.

We The People spoke last night, just like we did in 1994, in 2000, in 2004. I have lived with a Republican ruled government for a while, and I have always tried to find something good about the present administration. And sometimes I have, but most times I have not.

The Republicans got a spanking for one simple reason, the party has been hijacked by corrupt neo-conservatives that don't give a **** about anything except themselves. Before this disease infested the Republican party, they were a truly conservative party, not a blood thirsty group full of arrogant pricks that don't give a phuck about our rights, rights that millions of Americans fought and died for.

We The People have spoken.
 

tracy

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Here they are:


Turn in all your guns
Banish God
State sanctioned murder of the most powerless of life
Your money is really the states money
All whites, Christians, heterosexuals and males are evil

:D Just kidding, I know it isn't that bad, but if this happened, I daresay the Dems wouldn't be too broken up about it.

I don't think it's nearly that simple. I see that South Dakota's controversial abortion ban was voted down. Even a conservative place like that doesn't fit the preconceived notion of what it means to be conservative. I don't think liberals are that different.
 
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EagleSmack

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Withdrawing from Iraq is not one of them?

They have done nothing but say how much of a failure this war has been. They have done nothing but say bad things about our involvement.

How will the Democrats change the situation in Iraq? It's their turn now.

It is on their watch. Success or failure now rests in the hands of the Democrats regardless of how we got into it.
 

thomaska

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You know I have been reading these posts on this thread and quite frankly I'm a bit shocked.

The Republicans have controlled Congress for 12 years. The President has been in power for 6 years.

What have they done for We The People? Do my fellow Americans remember that infamous phrase?

I remember a President-Elect in 2000 claiming he will be a unifying force and bring everyone together for the good of We The People. Can any of you honestly say he has reached across party lines with We The People in mind? He was incapabale of reaching within party lines, let alone across them.

He has done nothing, NOTHING, but polarize our great country. He has taken us to war in a country that was NEVER a pressing issue. No there was no pressing issue. But fine, we are there, and we have to deal with it.

We The People spoke last night, just like we did in 1994, in 2000, in 2004. I have lived with a Republican ruled government for a while, and I have always tried to find something good about the present administration. And sometimes I have, but most times I have not.

The Republicans got a spanking for one simple reason, the party has been hijacked by corrupt neo-conservatives that don't give a **** about anything except themselves. Before this disease infested the Republican party, they were a truly conservative party, not a blood thirsty group full of arrogant pricks that don't give a phuck about our rights, rights that millions of Americans fought and died for.

We The People have spoken.

Well, do you think the number of people that actually voted comes anywhere close to being "We the People"? Somehow, I doubt it. Neglect of civil duty has as much to do with the Dems winning as their campaigining did, I think.