My Space and FBI

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-10-14-06-44-26
Oct 14, 6:44 AM EDT

Teen Questioned for Online Bush Threats
By DON THOMPSON
Associated Press Writer


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Upset by the war in Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com. She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.
It was too late.
Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class.
The 14-year-old freshman was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter.

On Friday, the teenager said the agents' questioning led her to tears.
"I wasn't dangerous. I mean, look at what's (stenciled) on my backpack - it's a heart. I'm a very peace-loving person," said Wilson, an honor student who describes herself as politically passionate. "I'm against the war in Iraq. I'm not going to kill the president."
Her mother, Kirstie Wilson, said two agents showed up at the family's home Wednesday afternoon, questioned her and promised to return once her daughter was home from school.
After they left, Kirstie Wilson sent a text message to her daughter's cell phone, telling her to come straight home: "There are two men from the secret service that want to talk with you. Apparently you made some death threats against president bush."



"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter responded.
Moments later, Kirstie Wilson received another text message from her daughter saying agents had pulled her out of class.
Julia Wilson said the agents threatened her by saying she could be sent to juvenile hall for making the threat.
"They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean."
Spokesmen for the Secret Service in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., said they could not comment on the case.
Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her over her MySpace.com posting. But they said they believe agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school.
They also said the agents should have more quickly figured out they weren't dealing with a real danger. Ultimately, the agents told the teen they would delete her investigation file.
Assistant Principal Paul Belluomini said the agents gave him the impression the girl's mother knew they were planning to question her daughter at school. There is no legal requirement that parents be notified.
"This has been an ongoing problem," said Ann Brick, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union in San Francisco.
Former Govs. Pete Wilson and Gray Davis vetoed bills that would have required that parents give consent or be present when their children are questioned at school by law enforcement officers. A similar bill this year cleared the state Senate but died in the Assembly.
Julia Wilson plans to post a new MySpace.com page, this one devoted to organizing other students to protest the Iraq war.
"I decided today I think I will because it (the questioning) went too far," she said.
 

Johnny Utah

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Of course the ACLU is bitching about this, the girl made a threat to the President, it doesn't matter if it was Bush, Clinton etc. You do not make threats against any President and especially on a site like Myspace. Where was this girl's mother? She's responsible more than the girl is as she should have been doing her job as a mother and know what her daughter was doing online..
 

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I agree. The parents should check up more on their children especially in situations like this because just think what the backlash of the kid is going to be. And if she is not that kind of person she should have never made those comments in the first place.
 

Dalreg

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Load of BS. 14 years old. Thought and acted without thinking it through. Yep it must be a genuine threat. When was the last time any teenager thought through their actions before acting. Be careful next thing you know you will be arrested if you think bad things about the president.

Guess what I'm thinking!

I suppose I will now be put on the FBI's list or maybe even CSIS.
 

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If it were a 37-year-old it'd be different but a 14-year-old girl? Unless she has a history of mental illness it's not like she's actually a threat to the president.
The Progressive (http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc100406) had this article a little while ago about a guy who was questioned by secret service agents about "assaulting" Dick Cheney after he told Cheney he disapproved of the War in Iraq. He was charged with assault.
 

DurkaDurka

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The authorities cannot ignore threats like that, regardless of the age of the accused. They would be negligent in their job if they failed to do so.

There are all sorts of weirdos who make myspace home. I like what this author from Wired Magazine has done, he has written a script in perl which scours the myspace population looking for registered sexual offenders. The script has already assisted in catching one guy. Article here: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71948-0.html?tw=wn_index_1
 
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CDNBear

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Not to mention, I could easily set up a hotmail account and start my own space, and say I'm a 12 year old girl in Shaboogamoo. On the net not all things are what they appear to be. Once they assertained she was 14, perhaps they acted with more of a "scar her straight" sort of forethought. Not a jackbooted thug one.

In any case, a threat is a threat, period.
 

Daz_Hockey

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To be honest though, doesn't this come under the right to free speech bit?, I mean I could say "Kill Tony Blair" on my website and I know I wouldn't get a bunch of UK officials at my door. It's simply stupid, by all means check up on it if you will, but once you find it's a 14-year old girl, let it go.

This just makes me feel like I've got more liberty than most people living in the US.
 

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So, she makes a public threat to the President, but that's okay because she "has a heart on [her] backpack"

Yup, that's how we can tell the crazies from the stupids. Perhaps she [and her parents] could think once in a while. But that's too much of a stretch, I guess.
 

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To be honest though, doesn't this come under the right to free speech bit?, I mean I could say "Kill Tony Blair" on my website and I know I wouldn't get a bunch of UK officials at my door. It's simply stupid, by all means check up on it if you will, but once you find it's a 14-year old girl, let it go.

This just makes me feel like I've got more liberty than most people living in the US.

Are you sure about that? After all, they can watch you on CCTV all day long, can't they?
 

Daz_Hockey

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Are you sure about that? After all, they can watch you on CCTV all day long, can't they?

No, If I were to live in say, Plymouth or London, I suppose that would be possible. But half the population here (it's quite a rural village on the south coast near southampton) still call the TV "the wireless", and frankly, the only camera in my village is the camera at the front of the electrical store.

"Kill Tony Blair" lol...yeah ok sure.

I mean, COME ON, this is a 14 year old girl we're talking about her. Civil liberty, civil liberty, surely she's allowed the right to free speech?, didn't that little signed bill of rights allow her this?.

She's clearly not a terrorist or of a terrorist organisation, use your loaf, let it go and dont be so bloomin silly!!!.
 

Johnny Utah

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The girls age has nothing to do with it, anyone forget Columbine and other school shootings by kids, real nice the way Libs try to defend making threats to President Bush because of the girls age..
:rolleyes:
 

Daz_Hockey

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The girls age has nothing to do with it, anyone forget Columbine and other school shootings by kids, real nice the way Libs try to defend making threats to President Bush because of the girls age..
:rolleyes:

I am no liberal my man, but if you delve a little deeper into that example you gave me (as I would expect the FBI to), you'll find those crimes are commited virtually exclusivly by young males, not 14 year old girls.

Also, come on. Don't be silly, she said it online, kids say crazy stuff online. This is just nother example of how free you really are in the US. I pity you for even thinking such a thing, I really do.
 

Johnny Utah

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I am no liberal my man, but if you delve a little deeper into that example you gave me (as I would expect the FBI to), you'll find those crimes are commited virtually exclusivly by young males, not 14 year old girls.

Also, come on. Don't be silly, she said it online, kids say crazy stuff online. This is just nother example of how free you really are in the US. I pity you for even thinking such a thing, I really do.
Oh please it has nothing to do with loss of Freedom, any threat made to any President is taken serious no matter who makes it. The U.S. Secret Service takes the protection of current and Fmr Presidents very serious. If this threat was made to President Clinton would you be crying loss of Freedoms?

So don't try to spin this into a loss of Freedoms in the United States because that's not what this case is about but only to people like you who always have to look for something wrong in the United States to bitch about..
:rolleyes:
 
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Daz_Hockey

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Once again, your ignorance is shining through there. Do I hate America?....no. Sure, if a threat is made, investigate, but I'm sure if the FBI were a half decent organisation, they would pull her file, realise she is a 14 year old girl and drop it.

I can say what the hell I like about my prime minister or queen, what do you think they're gonna do eh?. nothing, and don't go suggesting I'm in any way "America bashing", because I'm not. You supposedly have more free-speech than me....when, hello, oh you don't.

It simply tells me that the US has a hell of a lot of extremists on both sides ready to lynch the other, no matter that theyre a 14 year old girl. I'd sue if I was her family.
 

Logic 7

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The whole world should put "kill president bush" on their web site, he deserves that threathment, period.
 

Daz_Hockey

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ah, but were any of those crimes commited by 14 year old GIRLS?...nope..better post CDNBear