Al Gore: Impeach Bush

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Ooooooooh Jim Moyer

You are looking into the dark side now....oh my.... :cry:

As for comparison between Gore/Bush - we were not at war when Gore was VP. I still feel that makes a difference because the situation is far different and our national security is at stake.

But then I tend to see dark sides too!
 

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ACLU Sues to Stop Domestic Spy Program

:D :D :D

NEW YORK (AP) - Civil liberties groups filed lawsuits in two cities Tuesday seeking to block President Bush's domestic eavesdropping program, arguing the electronic surveillance of American citizens was unconstitutional.

The U.S. District Court lawsuits were filed in New York by the Center for Constitutional Rights and in Detroit by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The New York suit, filed on behalf of the center and individuals, names President Bush, the head of the National Security Agency, and the heads of the other major security agencies, challenging the NSA's surveillance of persons within the United States without judicial approval or statutory authorization.

It seeks an injunction that would prohibit the government from conducting surveillance of communications in the United States without warrants.

The Detroit suit, which also names the NSA, was filed with the ACLU along with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Greenpeace and several individuals.

Messages seeking comment were left Tuesday morning with the National Security Agency and the Justice Department.

Bush, who said the wiretapping is legal and necessary, has pointed to a congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that authorized him to use force in the fight against terrorism as allowing him to order the program.

The program authorized eavesdropping of international phone calls and e-mails of people deemed a terror risk.

The Detroit lawsuit says the plaintiffs, who frequently communicate by telephone and e-mail with people in the Middle East and Asia, have a "well-founded belief" that their communications are being intercepted by the government.

"By seriously compromising the free speech and privacy rights of the plaintiffs and others, the program violates the First and Fourth Amendments of the United States Constitution," the lawsuit states.
 

FiveParadox

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Supreme Court Authority

Does the Supreme Court of the United States of America not have the authority to end the program, or to strike down the legislation that would provide the means to have such a program in the first place?
 

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Re: Supreme Court Authority

FiveParadox said:
Does the Supreme Court of the United States of America not have the authority to end the program, or to strike down the legislation that would provide the means to have such a program in the first place?

Yeppers, but someone has to bring a suit against it. Don't you just love checks and balances :D
 

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But I think not, I have this glaring suspicion that anyone to bring a suit against His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, President of the United States, would be no less than booed out of the country, lol.
 

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The American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights filed lawsuits against President George W. Bush and the heads of US security agencies.
 

FiveParadox

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Oh, okay, no biggie. :)

The Auditor General, in Canada, is a person who has the authority to take the initiative to investigate Government programs, and to report the conclusions of such an investigation to the public. The Auditor General is an independant officer of Parliament (unelected, unbiased, and unpartisan — under ideal circumstances).

For example, our current Auditor General, Sheila Fraser, was the person who discovered the faults in the Sponsorship Scandal, ultimately culminating in the Gomery Inquiry and the dissolution of the Thirty-eighth Parliament.
 

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Gotcha, should of figured it out by the title.

We have the Inspector Generals Office and the General Accounting Office that conduct investigations.
 

FiveParadox

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Oh, okay. Yeah, the investigative authority thing is important to any democracy, in my opinion.

How did the surveillance program come to the attention of the public? (Sorry, I'm not very well informed on this issue.)