stop racism in canada

[stopracismcanada]

each years over 200'000 new immigrant and educated came to canada perhaps for better life but only perhaps %5 of them are going to land a job they are educated for. most of them are going to works as cheap labour .are you know most of job %95 in government are took over buy first canadian immigrant and blod hair....are you know we have over 200-000 poor and homeless and many are canadian living under brige or sleeping on street or in car and van...canada is alarge country and why we pay so much for this land price of housing and cost of living :idea:
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[Dexter Sinister]

It'd be a boon to comprehension if you'd write a coherent sentence or two.

 

[stopracismcanada]

sorry but former of PM of canada was have same problem he wasn't speck english as will, look in point and why so much racism here to we are fix the problem. then I promise I am going to fix my grammer too. I need time and more education

 

[mrmom2]

It'd be a boon to comprehension if you'd write a coherent sentence or two

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[peapod]

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[Reverend Blair]

sorry but former of PM of canada was have same problem he wasn't speck english as will,

We all knew what he was saying though, more or less. Unless he didn't want us to know what he was saying, which happened pretty often.

You'd do better at fighting racism if you got your facts and figures straight. The numbers we use were invented in the part of the world you came from, so why not start with them?

 

[GL Schmitt]

stopracismcanada,

Your post has demonstrated one of the reasons why certain highly trained new Canadians have trouble obtaining immediate employment at the level to which they are educated.

Along with the training that their discipline demands, is the necessity of being able to communicate.

Then, too, some licensed professions (Doctor’s especially) must undergo an evaluation period to see that their training is of the same calibre as others licensed in this country.

Once the language barrier is bridged, and they have proven the quality of their training, there are few barriers erected that do not also impede native-born Canadians.


Finally, if your post is an honest example of your communications skills, and you continue to claim that racism is the reason you are being held back, you will gain few converts to your point of view.

 

[missile]

I understand just what the poster is saying & now I'm worried that my language skills are under par

 

[Just the Facts]

Once the language barrier is bridged, and they have proven the quality of their training, there are few barriers erected that do not also impede native-born Canadians.

Actually it's not that simple for Doctors, at least not in Ontario. I suspect it's similar in most of Canada. Foreign trained doctors need to write an equivalency exam AS WELL as do a residency. The residency is the kicker, getting a spot is about as easy as getting season's tickets to the Leafs. No matter how qualified, talented, and eloquent, very few foreign trained doctors ever actually get a chance to practice here. This issue hit the limelight recently because of the drastic shortage of general practitioners in the province.

As a point of interest, the same rules apply to Canadians trained abroad. Lots of Canadian medical students who thought it might be a good experience to study medicine in London or Paris have a nasty surprise when they get home.

 

[Nascar_James]

Once the language barrier is bridged, and they have proven the quality of their training, there are few barriers erected that do not also impede native-born Canadians.

Actually it's not that simple for Doctors, at least not in Ontario. I suspect it's similar in most of Canada. Foreign trained doctors need to write an equivalency exam AS WELL as do a residency. The residency is the kicker, getting a spot is about as easy as getting season's tickets to the Leafs. No matter how qualified, talented, and eloquent, very few foreign trained doctors ever actually get a chance to practice here. This issue hit the limelight recently because of the drastic shortage of general practitioners in the province.

As a point of interest, the same rules apply to Canadians trained abroad. Lots of Canadian medical students who thought it might be a good experience to study medicine in London or Paris have a nasty surprise when they get home.

They have exceptions for US trained professionals and vise versa.

 

[Nascar_James]

I thought one of the criteria for immigrating to Canada would be competancy in English? I guess they must have changed the rules...

 

[Reverend Blair]

There are various factors that can have an effect on that sort of criteria, James. The fact that we have two official languages up here, for instance.

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: RE: stop racism in canada

There are various factors that can have an effect on that sort of criteria, James. The fact that we have two official languages up here, for instance.

Ooops ... I meant competency in English or French ...

 

[Reverend Blair]

What if they can speak fluently but not write, or vice versa? What if they are in an occupation that requires little or no communication? What if they arrived as a refugee?

 

[GL Schmitt]

. . . Foreign trained doctors need to write an equivalency exam AS WELL as do a residency . . . the same rules apply to Canadians trained abroad. . . Canadian medical students who . . . study medicine in London or Paris have a nasty surprise when they get home.

As I understand it, FMG's have to write an equivalency and work at the same level as a medical student, before qualifying for a residency. At least, that was the situation for FMG's the last time I was condemned to a sojourn in the neighbourhood house of resuscitation.

It is understandable that a once-important doctor becomes somewhat upset when asked to step back into the plebeian ranks of the medical student. On the other hand, Canadian Hospitals feel it is important to assure themselves that their latest medical recruit did not receive his degree, specializing in poultices and purges.

As for the Canadians who trained in England or France, I have no actual idea what their problem is. I might, however, speculate that as hospitals survive on the few years that would-be doctors must try to exist as the nearest modern equivalent to a Reconstruction Era, Georgian sharecropper, that might be an instance of malicious payback.

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: RE: stop racism in canada

What if they can speak fluently but not write, or vice versa? What if they are in an occupation that requires little or no communication? What if they arrived as a refugee?

Well, I agree that refugees or immediate relatives of Canadian Citizens should be exempt from the requirement. However, as for the other immigrants, whether they are in the independant category or skilled worker category, or other category, they should all demonstrate a competency in one of Canada's official languages.

Besides, they will eventually need to pass a language test to become a citizen. Already knowing the language would be one less hurdle for them.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Why? My great-grandparents came her and they knew hardly any English. My father never learned English until he went to school. Why should one of the official languages be such a big deal now?

 

[neocon-hunter]

I think a lot of the problem is english is a really mixed up language and one of the hardest languages to learn, as a lot of words are not spelt the way they are pronounced.

It does not bother me personally if they do not know english or french as you can usually find someone who speaks english or french if you need assistance.

I would like to see 2 or 3 more languages added to official list personally.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I think that we should stick with just the two and then provinces and municipalities decide the rest. If you start trying to pick only a few more, you'll start a war over which ones.

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: RE: stop racism in canada

Why? My great-grandparents came her and they knew hardly any English. My father never learned English until he went to school. Why should one of the official languages be such a big deal now?

Well, there is more demand for immigration now versus back then, Rev. In addition, back in those days, English was the only official language so you didn't have two official languages to further complicate matters. You also didn't have a language test before becoming a citizen.