Pea, one thing I have to say. BC is one of the greatest places I've been to in Canada, it's absolutely beautiful. I cant wait till my next visit this October :lol:
Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada
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Jo Canadian said:3.
No Culture.
Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves as to where they 'originally' came from.
I wonder where this was actually thought up. Wherever it was, there wasn't much grey matter to put into it. Anyone who's even researched the people of canada should know that Canadian culture is a culture of people that consists of elements of every culture. Assimilation as in most cases when cultures clash usually happens, but the canadians at least try to govern their society to be culturally diverse...-er, Multicultral would be the apt name.
We have canadian food, it's any kind of food availabe around the world. You can eat any culture in Canada. Societies grow over time Canada's only been around for roughly over a century, the US around 4. Other countries have been around to develop much longer than that. Canadian culture is in it's infancy and with the mix of the worlds entire populace, I wonder how we'll turn out by the end of of the new millenium?
Quebec has been around for over 400 years, btw.
If you want to see it that way though Quebec has had at least that amount of time to culture it's culture. Otherwise they'd be no different than the European frenchleaving on a jet plane...taking my whining and complaining with me. 8)
I never met to cause you trouble, oh no I never met to do you harm, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle (piano) ....still listening to coldplay.
I never met to cause you trouble, oh no I never met to do you harm, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle (piano) ....still listening to coldplay.
I think many immigrants come here with wrong information, and unrealistic goals and timelines. Then when they realize the truth, they play the racism card and bring up the weather. One of the rights we have in Canada is the right of mobility, if you want to leave, go ahead.
Re: RE: Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada
Thanks for the link, I signed up to the CanadianDesi one since I'm of East Indian background, I figure I'll cause some raucaus there and set a few people straight.
canuck3000 said:
Thanks for the link, I signed up to the CanadianDesi one since I'm of East Indian background, I figure I'll cause some raucaus there and set a few people straight.
canuck3000 said:
8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
- I can't comment, I didn't immigrate here. If you ask me, the system is too lenient. We should screen immigrants more strictly.
7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
- I've only lived in Canada, but have traveled throughout the world and know that Europe is far more expensive as a place to live. Japan too is very expensive. In terms of the US, it too can be very expensive depending on where, same goes for Canada. Toronto may be expensive, but Regina is quite affordable.
6. Health Care Disaster.
- Disaster is the wrong word. Crisis is better. I have a family doctor; I can make an appointment usually for the same day. I've waited around in hospital ERs, it sucks but it isn't the government’s entire fault. I say our problems are different, but overall I say we are no worse off than other 1st world countries.
5. Very High Taxes.
- You get what you pay for. They could cut takes down to the bone, but then you would get nothing from the government. A good plan if you are rich, not if you are poor. I think the cost of living is more or less in line with our taxation level. If there were no sales tax, the prices would just go up cause they know people could afford it.
4. Money Hungry Government.
- Name a government that isn't. Besides, we elected them so it is our fault.
3. No Culture.
- Define culture. We are a mosaic; we have a culture of multiculturalism. Besides we do have several things distinct and inherent only with Canada.
2. Worst Weather.
- According to whom? This is so subjective. This guy was from India, in terms of temperature, Canada is colder. Perhaps he viewed this as worse, but not everyone does. My dad loves the weather here; he hated the stifling heat in India when it would be 40+ Celsius for weeks, that's one of the reasons he left. The weather sucked (in his opinion).
1. No Jobs.
- Really, I got one. Perhaps, I'm an exception, but that doesn't really explain why there are so many cars on the road at 7AM and then again at 3:30PM, could it be all those millions of people are going to and from their jobs? Couldn't be, I thought there were none.
Hey just because you don't get a job doesn't mean there are no jobs.
This all being said, coming to Canada is tough, the streets are not paved with gold or any other precious metal.
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RE: Top Eight Reasons NOT
Hello
To live with and come to terms with reason 2 to 8 you must have reason # 1 resolved.
In this screwed up world sufficient income is one of the few things humans must have to survive or sink into depresssion or worst.
Canadas Immigration policies und applied practices are based on deception and outright trickery.
In a recent workfair in BONN and DRESDEN (Germany)
the Alberta Gov AIT Dept. was actively promoting
the immigration of skilled tradespeoples.
With flashy pomp and circumstance interviews and infomercial mingleing took place.
To be chosen, lengthy application needed to be submitted and of course hefty fees not only for application but for translation and certification services
for each document and little workstint these guys went through.
Of course there is still Can Immigration to deal with; any one familiar knows that can set you back in exccess of many many thousands. Add all the other moving expenses etc.
Lets assume he or she is "lucky" and is admitted to work in Alberta and lands a job entry level at less or close to 20.00/h. Not bad for many in the maritimes ; but taxation cost of living will eat up with little left to plan ahead and enjoy life.
Now add the fact of being fired first, no formal recognition and accreditation of even trades not mentioning higher learning.
If this immigrant also bring his lifesaving and has to eat it up the circumstance grows desperate quickly.
The poverty trap has set for this individual and his kin.
This situation is not hypthethical but well documented.
In this situation all these other reasons become magnified by factor `10 or more.
Well if Canada or Provinces need skilled population they should invest either by helping own workforce to be, or grasp that immigrants are not just cash cows (min of 10 000$ GDP / person).
Support and goodwill in skill accreditation is a must; the current situation stinks and is designed to buy time to prolong the exploitation.
Dont attract Immis if fair treatment is not part of the deal!
For the ones who disagree check your environ and see who is doing the dirty work and are at the bottom of the ladder with the lower rungs missing!
Cheers nelk
Hello
To live with and come to terms with reason 2 to 8 you must have reason # 1 resolved.
In this screwed up world sufficient income is one of the few things humans must have to survive or sink into depresssion or worst.
Canadas Immigration policies und applied practices are based on deception and outright trickery.
In a recent workfair in BONN and DRESDEN (Germany)
the Alberta Gov AIT Dept. was actively promoting
the immigration of skilled tradespeoples.
With flashy pomp and circumstance interviews and infomercial mingleing took place.
To be chosen, lengthy application needed to be submitted and of course hefty fees not only for application but for translation and certification services
for each document and little workstint these guys went through.
Of course there is still Can Immigration to deal with; any one familiar knows that can set you back in exccess of many many thousands. Add all the other moving expenses etc.
Lets assume he or she is "lucky" and is admitted to work in Alberta and lands a job entry level at less or close to 20.00/h. Not bad for many in the maritimes ; but taxation cost of living will eat up with little left to plan ahead and enjoy life.
Now add the fact of being fired first, no formal recognition and accreditation of even trades not mentioning higher learning.
If this immigrant also bring his lifesaving and has to eat it up the circumstance grows desperate quickly.
The poverty trap has set for this individual and his kin.
This situation is not hypthethical but well documented.
In this situation all these other reasons become magnified by factor `10 or more.
Well if Canada or Provinces need skilled population they should invest either by helping own workforce to be, or grasp that immigrants are not just cash cows (min of 10 000$ GDP / person).
Support and goodwill in skill accreditation is a must; the current situation stinks and is designed to buy time to prolong the exploitation.
Dont attract Immis if fair treatment is not part of the deal!
For the ones who disagree check your environ and see who is doing the dirty work and are at the bottom of the ladder with the lower rungs missing!
Cheers nelk
"1. No Jobs.
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future."
Where I live every place in town is at a shortage of workers, help wanted signs are all over.
"5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada."
I've got only a 7% GST rate, plus hidden fees I'm told
" 2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone. "
Some people like snow..
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future."
Where I live every place in town is at a shortage of workers, help wanted signs are all over.
"5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada."
I've got only a 7% GST rate, plus hidden fees I'm told
" 2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone. "
Some people like snow..
Some people should stop analysing and try living.
Every country has it's bad points. IF an individual can't live with those bad points then they should bugger off to somewhere where they will be happy.
Every country has it's bad points. IF an individual can't live with those bad points then they should bugger off to somewhere where they will be happy.
RE: Top Eight Reasons NOT
These are the anti-Canadians, Mr. Dibs. Their constant negativity about all things Canadian is the only biggest problem this country has.
These are the anti-Canadians, Mr. Dibs. Their constant negativity about all things Canadian is the only biggest problem this country has.
Numure said:
Actually Quebec has been around for thousands of years. You forget that there were people living here before. Are you only concerned about the time after the French arrived? Is everything before that irrelevant? You forget that the word "Quebec" is not a French word; it is native!
Based on what I can infer from your comment, the English could say that Quebec has only been around for 246 years, and classify everything before Sept 13, 1759 (The day Wolfe kicked Montcalm's ass) as insignificant. Would that be right though?
Well, that's news to me. I guess you can still learn something new every day. At least it's not a tongue twister like Iqaluktutiaq.Jo Canadian said:
Here is some further info:
http://sen.parl.gc.ca/nsibbeston/Brochure.htm
Canada itself came from the word, kanata, meaning village, which, from its repetition, French explorer Jacques Cartier took to be the name of the entire country.
Newfoundland has one of the oldest place names in Canada. It was called the “new founde isle” by John Cabot, who arrived there in 1497, and began appearing in official English records as “New founde launde” as early as 1501. The French version, “Terre Neuve” was first recorded in 1510 and the name became generally accepted shortly thereafter.
The name Quebec was first applied to the area around the present-day city and appeared in various spellings from 1601 on. The name derives from an Algonquin word for “narrow passage” or “strait,” referring to the narrowing of the St. Lawrence River at Cape Diamond.
In 1621, Sir William Alexander was granted a tract of land by the British Crown lying between New England and Newfoundland and called Nova Scotia, Latin for New Scotland. In 1713, the boundaries were fixed by the Treaty of Utrecht and included not only present day Nova Scotia but also New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
P.E.I. was separated from Nova Scotia in 1769 as St. John’s Island and received its present name in 1798 to honour Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.
New Brunswick became a separate province in 1784 and was named as a compliment to King George III, who was descended from the House of Brunswick.
The name Ontario was first applied to the lake in 1641 and only later came to signify the land next to it. It may have derived from the local aboriginal word onitariio meaning “beautiful lake” or possibly kanadario meaning “sparkling waters.”
The origin of the name Manitoba is not entirely certain but was probably first applied to Lake Manitoba. It may have derived from the Assiniboine words mini tobow meaning Lake of the Prairie or Lac des Prairies as it was called by French explorer La Verendrye. More likely it comes from the Cree maniotowpow meaning “the strait of the spirit,” arising from the belief that a minito or spirit inhabited Manitoba Island in the lake.
Saskatchewan also has watery origins, with the name being derived for the Cree term, Kisisskatchewani Sipi, or “swift-flowing river,” their name for what came to be called the Saskatchewan River. Explorer Anthony Henday rendered this as Keiskatchewan, which evolved over the years into its current version. Saskatchewan was officially adopted in 1882 when a separate district was created within the Northwest Territories.
Alberta breaks the trend of aboriginal names and first appeared in 1882 with the creation of the district of Alberta within the Northwest Territories. It was named in honour of Princess Louise Caroline Alberta, daughter of Queen Victoria and wife of the Marquess of Lorne who was Governor General of Canada at the time.
British Columbia (formerly known as British Caledonia) also owes its name to Queen Victoria who officially proclaimed it as the colony’s name in 1858. Columbia came from the name of the river, which in turn had been named by American Captain Robert Gray for his ship Columbia.
Yukon comes from yu-kun-ah, meaning “great river” in the local aboriginal language. It was first applied to the area in 1846 by John Bell, an employee of the Hudson’s Bay Company.
The name for the territory Nunavut is an Inuktitut word meaning "our land."
Northwest Territories - No explanation needed, but they may change their name.
Nice stuff man. Most of the stuff I am aware of but naming alberta after a princess is funny. I just can't remember when the NWT recieved it's official name after being called Ruperts land for a dogs age. My buddy in Nunavut was also happy with the choice of name, it was selected by the help from his father in 1992 which was when the concept was starting to take shape. It's too bad though that the Gov't chose to recognize Nunavut on April Fools day.
Whenever someone asks me in China to help them fill outa form for a Canadian Visa or Immigration related document, I tell them to stay in China.
Well educated Chinese people still believe Canada is a land of opportunity, where all people are treated equally. I quickly disabuse them of those notions.
I point out, despite what propaganda is promulgated about Canada by the Government, the country is a cesspool for most working people, especially new immigrants.
The questions I ask potential immigrants to Canada usually stops them in their tracks: "Why would you leave your privleged position (engineer, economist, lawyer, businessman, whatever) in China where the economy is booming to go to a country where the economy is stagnant, you will be on the bottom rung doing crappy jobs working longer and harder to not even come close to achieving the middle-class lifestyle you currently have here? Are you ready for the daily racism of those polite Canadians who deny posessing any animosity towards any ethnic group, but in reality when they are at home curse all those Chinese and other foreign parasite for destroying the country?
Well educated Chinese people still believe Canada is a land of opportunity, where all people are treated equally. I quickly disabuse them of those notions.
I point out, despite what propaganda is promulgated about Canada by the Government, the country is a cesspool for most working people, especially new immigrants.
The questions I ask potential immigrants to Canada usually stops them in their tracks: "Why would you leave your privleged position (engineer, economist, lawyer, businessman, whatever) in China where the economy is booming to go to a country where the economy is stagnant, you will be on the bottom rung doing crappy jobs working longer and harder to not even come close to achieving the middle-class lifestyle you currently have here? Are you ready for the daily racism of those polite Canadians who deny posessing any animosity towards any ethnic group, but in reality when they are at home curse all those Chinese and other foreign parasite for destroying the country?
