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Ron in Regina

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Isn’t the person above the one that’s from Michigan that’s tied into the whole line 5 goat rodeo from the day after Biden was first elected president (same day that Keystone was cancelled) ???
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Isn’t the person above the one that’s from Michigan that’s tied into the whole line 5 goat rodeo from the day after Biden was first elected president (same day that Keystone was cancelled) ???
Yep, it worked. You aren't even questioning how the source "knows" Whitmer is the Democrats Plan B.

Shooting fish in a barrel.
 

Ron in Regina

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Regina, Saskatchewan
Yep, it worked. You aren't even questioning how the source "knows" Whitmer is the Democrats Plan B.

Shooting fish in a barrel.
I just vaguely recognized her name, but I wasn’t sure. Wasn’t she the one involved in that kidnapping attack…or potential kidnapping thing that never happened, or whatever it was…? Same person? Wasn’t it some sort of weird FBI entrapment thing (?) or am I thinking of something else?

Anyway, US election from the Canadian perspective & speculation on this side of the barrel/Border/etc…Trump’s potential return to the presidency and his pick of Vance send a clear protectionist signal, potentially upending CUSMA and our automotive and agricultural sectors. Conversely, a Trump presidency could revive the Keystone XL pipeline, boosting Alberta’s oil industry. Stricter immigration and border security policies could complicate travel between the U.S. and Canada, and proposed deportation orders could prompt a flood of asylum seekers to head north. Lastly, Vance’s indifference to Ukraine and Trump’s disdain for NATO could radically alter the global geopolitical balance. Forget about Canada’s lagging two per cent contribution to NATO: we may need to pony up a lot more if the U.S. exits the alliance and demands a new North American defence relationship.

Staring down the barrel of Trump 2.0 and a massive populist wave also puts direct pressure on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as he contemplates his future. On the one hand, some Canadian voters may rethink their support for the Conservatives if they equate their policies with those of American Republicans. While foreign policy isn’t traditionally a ballot box question, Ukrainian Canadians would be leery of Vance’s stance, while social liberal voters might worry about his position on abortion.

(The American Roe vs Wade will be dug out and dusted off by Trudeau to shake like a voodoo stick at the crowds, in a “look over there” moment…To distract from his own issues in his own country)

At the same time, many Canadian voters, in particular Millennials and Gen Z, will identify with Vance’s call to restore dignity and prosperity to the working class. On economic policy and class consciousness, Vance cuts a generational figure similar to Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, and if he is embraced by the American voter, he could reinforce populism north of the border. Would Trudeau want to stick around for that tsunami?

I would say, at this point, Yes…yes he will.

There are still four months to go in the race for the White House. But in one weekend, it has radically changed — for everyone.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Yep, it worked. You aren't even questioning how the source "knows" Whitmer is the Democrats Plan B.

Shooting fish in a barrel.
Don’t you also have unofficially official leaks to whatever the American equivalent of the Pet CBC is down there by “anonymous official sources that aren’t sanctioned to speak” but do, and wouldn’t leak if they weren’t told to, etc…?
 

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Don’t you also have unofficially official leaks to whatever the American equivalent of the Pet CBC is down there by “anonymous official sources that aren’t sanctioned to speak” but do, and wouldn’t leak if they weren’t told to, etc…?
Sometimes. Even more, we have "journalists" who pretend to know more than they do to sell stories. More and more these days.
 

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Just like it always was .
Worse, really. Used to be more common to cite a source, even if it was just "sources at the White House." Now they just stick in opinions and present them as facts.

And that's not a "sides" thing. I'm seeing it with disturbing frequency on all "sides" in journalism.
 

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
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Regina, Saskatchewan
Sometimes. Even more, we have "journalists" who pretend to know more than they do to sell stories. More and more these days.
Just like it always was .
Worse, really. Used to be more common to cite a source, even if it was just "sources at the White House." Now they just stick in opinions and present them as facts.

And that's not a "sides" thing. I'm seeing it with disturbing frequency on all "sides" in journalism.
Up here, if you read something, especially from the CBC that sites “anonymous MP’s not authorized to speak” = an official unofficial leak from the PMO.

One of those:
1) testing the waters thing. Or
2) breaking the ice while testing the waters
 

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Worse, really. Used to be more common to cite a source, even if it was just "sources at the White House." Now they just stick in opinions and present them as facts.

And that's not a "sides" thing. I'm seeing it with disturbing frequency on all "sides" in journalism.
As it has always been . I learned that lesson watching a conservative convention when fifteen , we watched the speeches together and discussed who and what we liked . Reading the news paper the next morning my guys speech was taken completely out of context and he was vilified by the press . Even though we were Liberal at the time my mother said that is what they do and to always try and watch or read to fact check the press . About 5 or ten years later I was interviewed by a newspaper reporter , he had me saying the complete opposite . The only thing he got right was my name .
The medias job is to sell advertising the truth has no bearing .
 

Tecumsehsbones

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As it has always been . I learned that lesson watching a conservative convention when fifteen , we watched the speeches together and discussed who and what we liked . Reading the news paper the next morning my guys speech was taken completely out of context and he was vilified by the press . Even though we were Liberal at the time my mother said that is what they do and to always try and watch or read to fact check the press . About 5 or ten years later I was interviewed by a newspaper reporter , he had me saying the complete opposite . The only thing he got right was my name .
The medias job is to sell advertising the truth has no bearing .
Understood. I have no dewy-eyed illusions of reporters writing the plain TRUTH before ducking into the broom closet to change into Superman (underpants go on the INSIDE, Clark!). Just seems that the distinction between facts and opinions (or "alternative" facts) is more blurred than it used to be, and that we're getting fewer unembellished, objective facts.

Or maybe I'm blossoming as a curmudgeon.
 
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Understood. I have no dewy-eyed illusions of reporters writing the plain TRUTH before ducking into the broom closet to change into Superman (underpants go on the INSIDE, Clark!). Just seems that the distinction between facts and opinions (or "alternative" facts) is more blurred than it used to be, and that we're getting fewer unembellished, objective facts.

Or maybe I'm blossoming as a curmudgeon.
Probably both .