You want to promote human rights in China?

MHz

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'JT' and 'the Don' are hired hands, what makes you think they make any calls on their own?? (seriously)


You are overstating the rest, the crumbling west is the ones with global empire building. The West used opium there the same way they used disease ridden blankets in the Americas. Be glad they don't hold resentments as much as the West does or we really would be fuked. As it is we won't have the money to import anything anyways so bone up on 'smoke talk' before it's too late.
 

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I hope that Canadians wont buy this:

http://torontosun.com/technology/huawei-p20-mate-pro-review
 

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China accuses Britain, EU of hypocrisy over Canada detentions concerns

BEIJING (Reuters) - China accused Britain and the European Union of hypocrisy on Monday for expressing concern about China's detention of two Canadian citizens, saying they had double standards for not mentioning a senior Chinese executive arrested in Canada.
Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said on Saturday Canada will maintain a high-level campaign in the coming days to seek support from allies as it pressures China to free the two detained Canadians, who China says are suspected of endangering state security.
Freeland spoke a day after the United States joined Canada in calling on Beijing to release the pair, who were held after Canadian authorities arrested a senior Chinese executive on a U.S. extradition warrant. Britain and the European Union have also expressed support for Canada.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Beijing expressed "strong dissatisfaction and resolute opposition" to comments by Canada, the United States and others on the detained Canadians.
The two, Michael Kovrig, a former diplomat and an adviser with the International Crisis Group (ICG) think-tank, and businessman Michael Spavor, are suspected of endangering state security so they are "of course" being detained, Hua said.
"We urge relevant countries to earnestly respect China's judicial sovereignty," she told a daily news briefing, reiterating their lawful rights have been guaranteed.
The support of Britain and the European Union was "strange", Hua added.
"What's this got to do with Britain and the EU? When the Canadians illegally detained a senior executive at a Chinese company at the request of the United States, where were they?" she said.
"Their so-called human rights have different standards for different countries' citizens," Hua added.
Kovrig is also a Hungarian and therefore an EU citizen, sources told Reuters last week.
The two were detained after Canadian police arrested Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's [HWT.UL] chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, on Dec 1.
China again urges Canada to release Meng and the United States to withdraw its arrest warrant, Hua said.
While Meng has had full access to lawyers and is able to see family, Kovrig is being denied legal representation, is not allowed to see family, and is limited to one consular visit a month, sources familiar with the situation say.
No details have been revealed about Spavor's detention. Canadian diplomats have seen both men at least once since they were detained.
Canada arrested Meng at the request of the United States, which is engaged in a trade war with China. Meng faces extradition to the United States to face fraud charges which carry a maximum sentence of 30 years jail for each charge.
China has given only vague details of why they have detained the two Canadians, and has not drawn a direct link to Meng's arrest.
Influential state-backed Chinese tabloid the Global Times said in a Monday editorial that Canada would "pay for its bad behavior".
"Canada's attempts to resolve a conflict with China by roping in its allies will never work," it said.
 

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If this chinese woman has been arrested as some sort of trade war stunt then we should refuse to send her to the US for trial and we should apologize to china

My feeling from the start is that there must be solid evidence against her or we would not have arrested her.
 

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Indeed. They seem to have hit the mark.
People seem to disappear once the CIA has them.

Red-headed Russian babe, anybody seen her mug lately??
You guys are aware that China is doing the port modifications in Israel, . . .Right?? Guess who pulled out as soon as that was announced?? The next phase is an island port/airport for Gaza, when you do the math the US is up shit creek without a paddle, . . . yesterday rather than tomorrow.
 

spilledthebeer

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If this chinese woman has been arrested as some sort of trade war stunt then we should refuse to send her to the US for trial and we should apologize to china

My feeling from the start is that there must be solid evidence against her or we would not have arrested her.






POOR HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This whole Huawei mess is just Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals wanting to distract from the mess he has made with our allies over national security!!!!!!!!!


And the idiot Boy wants to distract us from how truly



dangerous China can be- since idiot Boy wants to suck up to



his Soviet pals in China !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Here is an article illustrating how dangerous it is to create close economic ties with Red China as Our idiot Boy Justin wants to do. With some comments of my own in brackets):

It Doesn’t Matter if Ecuador Can Afford This Dam. China Still Gets Paid.

By NICHOLAS CASEY and CLIFFORD KRAUSS

New York Times.

Published: Dec 25,2018

REVENTADOR, Ecuador — The dam sits under the glare of an active volcano, with columns of ash spewing toward the sky.

Officials had warned against the dam for decades. Geologists said an earthquake could wipe it away.

Now, only two years after opening, thousands of cracks are splintering the dam’s machinery. Its reservoir is clogged with silt, sand and trees. And the only time engineers tried to throttle up the facility completely, it shook violently and shorted out the national electricity grid.

This giant dam in the jungle, financed and built by China, was supposed to christen Ecuador’s vast ambitions, solve its energy needs and help lift the small South American country out of poverty.

Instead, it has become part of a national scandal engulfing the country in corruption, perilous amounts of debt — and a future tethered to China.

Nearly every top Ecuadorean official involved in the dam’s construction is either imprisoned or sentenced on bribery charges. That includes a former vice president, a former electricity minister and even the former anti-corruption official monitoring the project, who was caught on tape talking about Chinese bribes.

(In light of this kind of information- should we trust the likes of Our idiot Boy Justin to arrange “deals” with China? With Our idiot Boy telling us “he likes the way the Chinese get things done” -which is apparently a reference to being able to re-write the history books to EDIT OUT Red Party screwups! And Lord knows |Our idiot Boy has a lot of stupidity to hide as well- especially since the entire Trudeau clan has told us of their fondness for bloody handed Cuban Soviet dictator Castro?)

(And Pierre Trudeau casually praised what he called “the genius of Chinese Chairman Mao for rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” during the Great Leap Forward! Or we could mention the aspiring film maker Sacha Trudeau who has collaborated with Iranian Ayatollahs in making anti Yankee and anti Israel propaganda films!)

Then there is the price tag: around $19 billion in Chinese loans, not only for this dam, known as Coca Codo Sinclair, but also for bridges, highways, irrigation, schools, health clinics and a half dozen other dams the government is scrambling to pay for.

It doesn’t matter whether Ecuador can afford them.

China gets paid either way.

To settle the bill, China gets to keep 80 percent of Ecuador’s most valuable export — oil — because many of the contracts are repaid in petroleum, not dollars. In fact, China gets the oil at a discount, then sells it for an additional profit.

(This of course is a big reason why Stephen Harper prohibited China from buying a big stake in Cdn oil patch! WE CAN of course SAFELY sell oil to China on OUR terms- but we MUST RETAIN overall control of OUR RESOURCE!!!!!! )

Pumping enough oil to repay China has become such an imperative for Ecuador that it is drilling deeper in the Amazon, threatening more deforestation.

(IN other words between the fiscal mess Ecuador has sunk itself in and coupled with the Cdn LIE-beral refusal to put our oil on international markets- we are actually aiding Amazon forest destruction! China wants to burn less coal and more natural gas because it is cleaner- and yet Our idiot Boy would rather leave Cdn natural gas and oil in the ground and force China to burn Australian coal!)

(LIE-berals forced Cdns to stop using coal at considerable cost- and then IGNORED options for PROFITING from helping China move away from coal use- how ABSURD IS THAT? And there is lots of natural gas on world markets but MUCH OF it is produced by “fracking” - unlike Cdn natural gas which does not need such a destructive option to be collected! And of course many people WOULD RATHER buy oil and natural gas from Cdns instead of dealing with vicious Russians!)

(Can LIE-beral policy get ANY MORE SCREWED UP? Our vaunted LIE-berals are screwing up national security, aiding our Chinese, Russian, North Korean and Iranian enemies and scorning options for saving parts of the world environment!!!)

But that is not enough. Hobbled by the debts, President Lenín Moreno has slashed social spending, gasoline subsidies, several government agencies and more than 1,000 public jobs. Most economists expect the country to slide into recession, stirring outrage.

(As the 19th century Soviet revolutionary Bakunin stated: “it is not necessary for the majority of the population to support the revolution; all that is needed is for a majority of the population to distrust its social institutions and become open to change”! In other words- bad govt - of the LIE-beral sort creates situations that Red Guards can take advantage of!)

(In Russia- the first free election after the Czar was deposed put a weak coalition of Moderates into power- with the leader being a guy named Kerensky- who wanted Russia to become a Parliamentary Monoarchy like Britain- but heavily armed Red Guards acting on plans drawn up by Lenin dissolved that legitimate govt at gun point!!)

(This sort of national distrust of institutions that Soviet cadres- whether they be Chinese, Russian or even Cdns like Our idiot Boy- can then exploit for Soviet advantage, is being used in Ecuador! And of course Our idiot Boy and his loser |LIE-berals are working hard to create the same sort of national distrust in Canada- with their massive debts, shameless vote buying, constant accusations of “systemic racism” and their deliberate neglect of criminal issues such as money laundering and organized crime activity!)

(Pierre Trudeau infamously told a group of reporters- back before he had any political ambitions- that if he ever became prime minister- “he would take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”! )

(Of course once Pierre got interested in politics - he then had to DENY ever saying such a thing! And had to deny ever leading Cdn “peace delegations” to Moscow for Soviet propaganda shows! Former Toronto Telegram and later Toronto Sun reporter - the Czech born Lubor Zink- routinely trotted out these ugly Trudeau ideals - with Trudeau threatening to sue for slander! With Zink DARING TRUDEAU to do just that- Zink sneering “you bring your witnesses and I will bring mine! Pierre settled for banning Zink from all federal media events and never speaking either Zink`s name nor that of Toronto Sun!!)

(Pierre Trudeau has told us in writing that “the war against Nazi Germany is British Imperialism”! Pierre also told us he wanted to destroy what he called “Cdn Imperialism”! It seems obvious to me that what Pierre called Cdn Imperialism is now being called “white privilege” by his idiot son Justin!)

“China took advantage of Ecuador,” said Ecuador’s energy minister, Carlos Pérez. “The strategy of China is clear. They take economic control of countries.”

(Yes- China is on the hunt for power and prestige and mostly- for RAW RESOURCES FOR ITS PEOPLE! WE should NOT let Our idiot Boy lead us into a friendship with murderous Chinese Soviets!!!!!!)
 

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Must be a negotiation ploy.

I don't necessarily have much confidence in due process in the PRC, but if he freely and knowingly smuggled drugs into the country, and received a fair trial where he was proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt, assuming all of that, then yes he deserves death.
 

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I don't necessarily have much confidence in due process in the PRC, but if he freely and knowingly smuggled drugs into the country, and received a fair trial where he was proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt, assuming all of that, then yes he deserves death.
He's a hostage.
 

spilledthebeer

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Oops! (Negotiations must be progressing!)


Negotiations progressing????????????????????????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What it comes down to is that neither the Chinese nor their Soviet Proxy agent- meaning Our idiot Boy Justin want to see the true nature of the Red Chinese Beast EXPOSED to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I said a a few days back that the Red Chinese reaction to the Huawei MESS has undone decades of patient Chinese negotiation as The Chinese Soviet leaders struggled to put on a human face- after such disasters as the Tiannmen Square catastrophe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Soviet leaders come and go- but their BUTCHERY LIVES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has made a ot of people nervous with his attempts to sucj up to Chinese Dictators- while scorning Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!