Trump at 500 days plus

JLM

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Hoid said:
literally nobody except the GOP can tolerate him

He has something like a 5% approval rating outside the white nationalist climate chagne deniers.
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Don't bet your first born. You're like a kid who says "nobody likes you"! AS if he likely gives a shit! :lol:
 
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JLM said:
I've likely observed as many Nov. 11s as you have with total respect for the sacrifices so you don't have to hand me any shit!
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Obviously, you've gone through the motions without any understanding.
 
Tecumsehsbones

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JLM said:
I've likely observed as many Nov. 11s as you have with total respect for the sacrifices so you don't have to hand me any shit!
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Curious raised his right hand and volunteered to make that sacrifice himself, so he earned the right to feel any way he chooses about it.

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Curious Cdn said:
Obviously, you've gone through the motions without any understanding.
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Jody gonna jod.
 
JLM

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Curious Cdn said:
Obviously, you've gone through the motions without any understanding.
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That is about the stupidest statement I've seen on here this week. Of course I wouldn't have had the experience that those who spent years away from home fighting on the front lines had, but I believe I have pretty well full understanding as my grandfather fought in W.W.1 and was a victim of mustard gas for the rest of his life (which I bet you don't know anything about) and I had 3 uncles who served in W W 2. My father also signed up but was rejected as he was a crippled man suffering with osteomyelitis. You would be better ofF to keep your trap shut and appear a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. ARROGANT ASSHOLE! Which war did you serve in?
 
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That is about the stupidest statement I've seen on here this week. Of course I wouldn't have had the experience that those who spent years away from home fighting on the front lines had, but I believe I have pretty well full understanding as my grandfather fought in W.W.1 and was a victim of mustard gas for the rest of his life (which I bet you don't know anything about) and I had 3 uncles who served in W W 2. My father also signed up but was rejected as he was a crippled man suffering with osteomyelitis. You would be better ofF to keep your trap shut and appear a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. ARROGANT ASSHOLE! Which war did you serve in?
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So. . . your point is that only people who have suffered mustard gas "get it?"

Oh, and their descendants (who haven't suffered mustard gas).

I have to disagree with you, JLM. I think there is a qualitative difference between somebody who raised his right hand and swore to put his body "between his lov'd home and the war's desolation," even if he ended up spending three years as a chaplain's clerk in Kansas (or Manitoba), and those who did not.

I think that is especially true of those who did so during the only war that was ever a genuine existential threat to the U.S. and Canada. The Cold War.
 
JLM

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Tecumsehsbones said:
So. . . your point is that only people who have suffered mustard gas "get it?"

Oh, and their descendants (who haven't suffered mustard gas).

I have to disagree with you, JLM. I think there is a qualitative difference between somebody who raised his right hand and swore to put his body "between his lov'd home and the war's desolation," even if he ended up spending three years as a chaplain's clerk in Kansas (or Manitoba), and those who did not.

I think that is especially true of those who did so during the only war that was ever a genuine existential threat to the U.S. and Canada. The Cold War.
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Don't get me wrong, of course there's a lot about war that I don't know anything about, but unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I wasn't born at a time where I would be likely to do active duty in any wars, like others of my generation. He just decided he was going to act like a twit and belittle me and presume to know more about me than I would know about him, although I would imagine he was on the front lines in Afghanistan, Iraq 1 and Iraq 2 and probably Vietnam as well. I should have kept my mouth shut as I haven't spent months in rain soaked, rat infested trenches, with missiles soaring 6" over my head with the noise enough to blow an ear drum. A lot of people aren't cut out for active duty in war, me being one of them, but there's other ways to be useful without criticism from the likes of that asshole!
 
Tecumsehsbones

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JLM said:
Don't get me wrong, of course there's a lot about war that I don't know anything about, but unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I wasn't born at a time where I would be likely to do active duty in any wars, like others of my generation.
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Obviously, I disagree. As I said, the Cold War was the only existential threat to the U.S. and Canada that either has faced since the early 1800s. It was millions of young men and women on watch, with the attitude of "Anytime, baby!" that left you free to live your life as you chose. Me, in West Berlin and Central America, countering Soviet maneuvers. Curious, on a ship at sea. RCS, ready to face the fire, and presumably training the men and women who would face the fire. EagleSmack, keeping security and discipline in the Fleet. Gopher (who I believe was an infantryman), ready to expose his favorite skin to Soviet fire.

We did what we did. We don't expect to be lionized for it. But denigrating us because we weren't in the Battle of the Bulge or at Vimy Ridge is a dick move. Least of all, being told in effect "You weren't a real soldier" by somebody who was never a soldier of any type.

I'm being pretty hard on you here, but I'm not just bashing you. I'm asking you to just give Curious the respect he earned on that ship. Disagree with him all you like. Call him a fool if you like. Your ability to do that is what we served for. But remember that at one time in his life, he volunteered to face an icy death beneath the waves so that you could live in freedom.

He just decided he was going to act like a twit and belittle me and presume to know more about me than I would know about him, although I would imagine he was on the front lines in Afghanistan, Iraq 1 and Iraq 2 and probably Vietnam as well. I should have kept my mouth shut as I haven't spent months in rain soaked, rat infested trenches, with missiles soaring 6" over my head with the noise enough to blow an ear drum. A lot of people aren't cut out for active duty in war, me being one of them, but there's other ways to be useful without criticism from the likes of that asshole!
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Be the better man. You've got a good many miles (kilometers) under your belt. I get into it with EagleSmack pretty hard sometimes, but you'll notice that I never, EVER disparage his service.

As I said, call him a fool, a twit, or a twat as much as you like. He probably deserves it (as do I, from time to time). But the uniform deserves respect, and the people who wore it deserve at least to not be disparaged just because they weren't Special Forces racking up feats of derring-do on a daily basis.

Memorial Day, Canada Day, 4th of July, Remembrance (Veterans) Day. We were there, and we deserve respect for that, if for nothing else.
 
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some world war one vets did not think that world war two vets deserved the title "vets".

some vets from the world wars didn't think korean war vets deserved the title vets.

there is natural tendency to denigrate veterans. it is as old as time.
 
Bar Sinister

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Hoid said:
TRUMP'S 2018 APPROVAL RATINGS SHOW HE’S THE MOST UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT IN HISTORY AND FAILING AT HIS JOB

Trump's 2018 Approval Ratings Show He
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Here's the thing about US politics. About 27% of Americans consider themselves Republicans. 29% consider themselves Democrats, but a whopping 43% consider themselves Independents. If Trump is to have any chance in November 2018 or in 2020 then he has to get the support of the Independents and right now he is failing badly in that area.
 
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Bar Sinister said:
Here's the thing about US politics. About 27% of Americans consider themselves Republicans. 29% consider themselves Democrats, but a whopping 43% consider themselves Independents. If Trump is to have any chance in November 2018 or in 2020 then he has to get the support of the Independents and right now he is failing badly in that area.
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Are you sure . Will you be placing monetary wagers on the outcomes of those two elections ?
 
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