Tax exemption for Canadian families of three or more.

Angstrom

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Canadian families with as many as three children be exempt of paying their share of immigration cost.

Population growth is essential, but when a citizen of Canada has contributed to its growth, He shouldn't pay. They need the extra money to help their kids anyways.

With fewer and fewer families in Canada it's clear the financial burden is too overwhelming.

Some financial relief is clearly needed and is long overdue.
 

White_Unifier

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Canadian families with as many as three children be exempt of paying their share of immigration cost.

Population growth is essential, but when a citizen of Canada has contributed to its growth, He shouldn't pay. They need the extra money to help their kids anyways.

With fewer and fewer families in Canada it's clear the financial burden is too overwhelming.

Some financial relief is clearly needed and is long overdue.

That would require raising taxes on single Canadians. Result? They'd hold off on having a family.

The real solution is not with such gimmicks, but rather promoting economic efficiency.
 

White_Unifier

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producing our own population is not efficient?

Its hard to have economic growth without population growth.

I agree. What I'm saying is that raising taxes on single Canadians to give a tax break to parents would discourage single Canadians from having children.

It might seem counter intuitive, but generally one seeks some stability before he marries and has kids, not after.

The goal should therefore be to reduce the burden on everyone at every stage of life.
 

Kreskin

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Canadian families with as many as three children be exempt of paying their share of immigration cost.

Population growth is essential, but when a citizen of Canada has contributed to its growth, He shouldn't pay. They need the extra money to help their kids anyways.

With fewer and fewer families in Canada it's clear the financial burden is too overwhelming.

Some financial relief is clearly needed and is long overdue.
An interesting idea. Maybe tax credits for larger families.
 

Angstrom

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I agree. What I'm saying is that raising taxes on single Canadians to give a tax break to parents would discourage single Canadians from having children.

It might seem counter intuitive, but generally one seeks some stability before he marries and has kids, not after.

The goal should therefore be to reduce the burden on everyone at every stage of life.

Sure. Give young Canadian a tax break to help speed up their financial stability.

40 years of age seem old as a average age to start a family.
 

gerryh

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Basic benefit for July 2016 to June 2018
We calculate the Canada child benefit (CCB) as follows:

$6,400 per year ($533.33 per month) for each eligible child under the age of six
$5,400 per year ($450.00 per month) for each eligible child aged 6 to 17

We start to reduce the amount of CCB you get when your adjusted family net income (AFNI) is over $30,000. The reduction is calculated as follows:

families with one eligible child: the reduction is 7% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 3.2% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with two eligible children: the reduction is 13.5% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 5.7% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with three eligible children: the reduction is 19% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 8% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with four or more eligible children: the reduction is 23% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 9.5% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000
 

Angstrom

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I see you're point white.


Better funding in schools to reward the hard working kids with great life experience opportunities.
 

White_Unifier

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Sure. Give young Canadian a tax break to help speed up their financial stability.

40 years of age seem old as a average age to start a family.

But we can't just give tax breaks without reducing spending first. It's not sustainable.First, the government must reduce spending, then pay the debt, then reduce taxes.

Municipal governments could remove minimum parking and minimum lot size requirements in zoning bylaws and allow more mixed development. That would allow construction companies to respond to the younger money-conscious market.

I:m not disagree g with you, just saying first thing's first.
 

Angstrom

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Basic benefit for July 2016 to June 2018
We calculate the Canada child benefit (CCB) as follows:

$6,400 per year ($533.33 per month) for each eligible child under the age of six
$5,400 per year ($450.00 per month) for each eligible child aged 6 to 17

We start to reduce the amount of CCB you get when your adjusted family net income (AFNI) is over $30,000. The reduction is calculated as follows:

families with one eligible child: the reduction is 7% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 3.2% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with two eligible children: the reduction is 13.5% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 5.7% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with three eligible children: the reduction is 19% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 8% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

families with four or more eligible children: the reduction is 23% of the amount of AFNI between $30,000 and $65,000, plus 9.5% of the amount of AFNI over $65,000

The reduction should start at a much higher income earned. Imo
 

gerryh

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Plus there are provincial working family tax credits. How many credits and benefits do you want?

typical of those in your age bracket... gimme gimme gimme.
 

White_Unifier

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I see you're point white.


Better funding in schools to reward the hard working kids with great life experience opportunities.

Education should be results-oriented.

For example, with the low success rate in French, it should become an elective.
 

White_Unifier

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As for credits, CRA has a whole bureaucracy handling them. Why not just streamline taxes all around?
 

gerryh

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Seems to me like all these credits haven't been keeping up with cost of living.


You candy assed slackards get a fu ck of a lot more in "benifits" and "credits" than we ever did. Our "family allowance" was around 100 per month for 5 kids. That was for all 5, not each. So quit your goddamn whining.
 

Angstrom

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As for credits, CRA has a whole bureaucracy handling them. Why not just streamline taxes all around?
sure. As long as my kids can have a little bit better opportunities then they currently have im in.

You candy assed slackards get a fu ck of a lot more in "benifits" and "credits" than we ever did. Our "family allowance" was around 100 per month for 5 kids. That was for all 5, not each. So quit your goddamn whining.

i figure Canadian kids should grow up in better conditions. But you're right. Screw them. Ill stop standing up for kids. Screw those kids. They don't even get to vote anyways.
 

gerryh

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i figure Canadian kids should grow up in better conditions. But you're right. Screw them. Ill stop standing up for kids. Screw those kids. They don't even get to vote anyways.


Then get off your fat a$$ and provide for your kids. Quit expecting everyone else to do it for you.
 

White_Unifier

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sure. As long as my kids can have a little bit better opportunities then they currently have im in.

We need a total rethink.

I mentioned municipal zoning regulations above. I'm not saying we shouldn't help the poor. I'm saying we need to allow the poor to help themselves too through reasonable deregulation. Some poor people might not mind living in a smaller home with no parking for example.

Same with helping other countries. I'm not saying don't help Haitian refugees. I'm just saying let's help them help themselves. Allow them visa-free access to the Canadian labor market. It's win-win. They work and pay taxes in Canada to help Canadians while escaping Haiti.

It's fine to give them money, but let them work too.