Brexit voters are not thick, not racist: just poor

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Polish woman booed by BBC Question Time audience for saying she no longer feels welcome in Britain following Brexit

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/polish-woman-booed-bbc-question-time-brexit-a7372956.html

She was a BBC plant.

If she no longer feels welcome in Britain why doesn't she bugger off elsewhere? There's too many immigrants here.

Put it this way, if Poland had the same population density as Britain and was a rich as Britain and Britain was much poorer and thousands of British immigrants flooded into Poland every year taking Polish people's jobs and putting strain on their housing, health and education services, I don't think the Polish people would be too happy about it and would want a drastic cut in the number of British immigrants and other immigrants living there.

That Polish woman obviously has a massive chip on her shoulder and totally misunderstood the thinking of Brexit. Her one minute Question Time performance was on a par with out-of-touch, English-flag-hating, metropolitan liberal Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry's last week. She was also booed after upsetting the Brexiteer majority:

Emily Thornberry was loudly jeered on Thursday night’s BBC Question Time after saying those who voted for Brexit had voted to take their neighbour’s job.

Responding to Leave supporters in the audience, the Labour MP had suggested they hadn’t known what they were voting for and a second public consultation on the terms of the deal was needed.

Her comments caused anger in the audience with one gentlemen saying: “This is almost like Project Fear all over again by saying we didn’t understand what we were voting for.

“I understand. Stop belittling us.”



 

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Put me in the Yes of this poll.....


Britons Happy to Sacrifice Trade for Fewer Foreigners, Poll Says

Britons are more concerned with controlling immigration than maintaining access to the single market, according to a survey published Tuesday, adding further evidence that Prime Minister Theresa May’s Brexit strategy is in line with the prevailing mood of the country.

As Britain prepares to exit the European Union, over half of adults polled cite an influx of foreigners as more worrisome than losing EU trade benefits, said the poll conducted by Survation Ltd for ITV plc. Fifty-eight percent of respondents said they approve May’s handling of the divorce, with only a quarter saying that they disapproved.

The findings provide cover for May’s apparent plan to prioritize migration controls over access to the single market in Brexit negotiations. While the City of London is dismayed at the prospect of losing its financial services privileges, the rest of the country worries that growing numbers of workers from overseas are snatching jobs and pushing down wages.

Migration levels have frequently been touted as one of the key reasons behind the June 23 referendum result and the government has pledged to get numbers below 100,000. With an eye to consolidating her grip on power with an election down the line, May seems far more preoccupied with implementing the wish of the voting majority than protecting the interests of the banking world.

Britons Happy to Sacrifice Trade for Fewer Foreigners, Poll Says - Bloomberg
 

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Put me in the Yes of this poll.....


Britons Happy to Sacrifice Trade for Fewer Foreigners, Poll Says

Britons are more concerned with controlling immigration than maintaining access to the single market, according to a survey published Tuesday, adding further evidence that Prime Minister Theresa May’s Brexit strategy is in line with the prevailing mood of the country.

As Britain prepares to exit the European Union, over half of adults polled cite an influx of foreigners as more worrisome than losing EU trade benefits, said the poll conducted by Survation Ltd for ITV plc. Fifty-eight percent of respondents said they approve May’s handling of the divorce, with only a quarter saying that they disapproved.

The findings provide cover for May’s apparent plan to prioritize migration controls over access to the single market in Brexit negotiations. While the City of London is dismayed at the prospect of losing its financial services privileges, the rest of the country worries that growing numbers of workers from overseas are snatching jobs and pushing down wages.

Migration levels have frequently been touted as one of the key reasons behind the June 23 referendum result and the government has pledged to get numbers below 100,000. With an eye to consolidating her grip on power with an election down the line, May seems far more preoccupied with implementing the wish of the voting majority than protecting the interests of the banking world.

Britons Happy to Sacrifice Trade for Fewer Foreigners, Poll Says - Bloomberg

Yep. Mrs May has made ending free movement into the UK one of her red lines in upcoming Brexit negotiations. With Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition in complete disarray, she knows that by delivering Brexit well - by ending free movement into the UK, stopping the EU making our laws and stopping the British contributions to the EU budget - she will win an even bigger landslide than that which swept Blair into power in 1997 (the biggest UK election victory of the 20th Century) at the next election on Thursday 7th May 2020.

You think being given opportunities by the government is how to not be poor?

Damn, in the U.S. you'd be a leftwing Democrat.

The government not providing job opportunities or training opportunities or heaping pressure on education and housing services by allowing migrants to flood into the country and take people's jobs does go some way to keep people poor.
 

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The poor won, it will make them poorer for a while, but when you're poor, you don't really care. I respect them for trying, they're fed up. When your lying in a hospital corridor for 7 hours because there is no room available, or you wait 4 months to see a Specialist, or your kids are packed like sardines in classrooms, how can your stupid politicians tell you that they've just brought in thousands of immigrants?? The poor know what that means. If governments wanted to pad their population for profit, then they should have build more schools, build more hospitals, and have XX amount of jobs created to equal the number of new immigrants, not bring them in when you have thousands already looking for jobs!! Citizens are very tired of this stupidity. Good for the British for at least trying, we will see what happens, they've forced the 1% into action.
 

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Or if the rest of Europe stopped being lazy bastards - particularly the southerners like the Greeks, Italians and Spanish who are way behind the hardworking British and Germans and other northern Europeans in wealth and prosperity as a result - and worked longer hours and stop being given three hour workdays three days a week and countless holidays then perhaps they wouldn't be in the economic **** they're in now.
Maybe they have better things to do then making someone else rich...

UK needs migration 'because native Britons are bloody stupid', says pro-EU lord

UK needs migration 'because native Britons are bloody stupid', says pro-EU lord | The Independent
 

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Maybe they have better things to do then making someone else rich...

UK needs migration 'because native Britons are bloody stupid', says pro-EU lord

UK needs migration 'because native Britons are bloody stupid', says pro-EU lord | The Independent

All you need to know about the majority of the 812 members of the House of Lords today. A bunch of lefty liberal establishment Europhiles who think that anyone who disagrees with them on matters such as immigration and the EU are "bloody stupid" and "racists." He's a bitter, sore-loser Remoaner who still can't get over the fact that the British people have voted the "wrong" way and got one over the establishment.

Theresa May needs to perform a wholesale clearout of the Lords and then - as is proposed - make Farage a lord and stick him in it. And then a whole load of other people whose views are more in line with Farage's need to be made lords and put into the House.

The Remoaners' disdain for Britain has been exposed, says Stephen Pollard

MEET Lord Kerr of Kinlochard. Unless you have an unusual interest in the intricacies of the diplomatic service and Whitehall it is unlikely you have ever heard of him.

By Stephen Pollard
Sat, Nov 19, 2016
The Daily Express


Lord Kerr is the typical EU fanatic who helped draft Article 50

Even though, as a peer since 2004, Lord Kerr has been one of our ruling elite with a vote in the upper house of Parliament.

But although this is probably the first piece you have ever read about him, Lord Kerr is one of our most distinguished compatriots.

A former British ambassador to the US, he has also served as the permanent UK representative to the EU and as head of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

However, for all the glitter of his stratospheric career, Lord Kerr also represents everything wrong with a certain type of Brit: members of a coterie who for most of the past 50 years have believed that the masses are too stupid to be allowed a say.

Lord Kerr is the typical British EU fanatic. He has spent his career, first in the diplomatic service and now as a peer of the realm, pushing at every stage to increase and deepen our entanglement with Brussels, dismissing with bemused contempt the anxieties of his fellow countrymen and women.

The referendum on EU membership served many important functions, most obviously allowing us all, for the first time since 1975, a real say in our country’s future. But one especially fascinating development during the campaign was the way it dragged out into the open the contempt for Britain that is the foundation of much of the Remainers’ fanaticism.


Lord Kerr said Britons are 'so bloody stupid' we need EU citizens

Two weeks after the vote Lord Kerr – the man who helped draft Article 50 itself – offered his thoughts on the Brexit vote and the EU in a debate in the House of Lords. The win for Leave was based on “ignorance”, he told his fellow peers, because voters are flippant, silly people who are not qualified to take decisions that matter. Important matters should be left to the likes of his fellow peers.

Even MPs are too uncouth, having to prostrate themselves before those hideous voters.

To quote his words in their full condescending, patronising, contemptuous glory: “Student politics may have trashed the country but now it is time for the grown-ups to reassert themselves, reassert our values and restore our reputation.”

However, clear as he was in June that voters are too stupid to decide important issues, this week he excelled himself. According to Lord Kerr, the key reason we need to be members of the EU and to keep our borders open to free movement of EU citizens is because “native” Britons are “so bloody stupid”.


Some Britons voted Leave because they want 'Parliamentary sovereignty'

As he put it: “We native Brits are so bloody stupid that we need an injection of intelligent people, young people from outside.”

Our stupidity, he informed an event on Thursday, was on full display in the referendum campaign. Leave won, you see, only by “cleverly outsourcing xenophobia and racism” to the Ukip leader Nigel Farage. You – that is you, me and all of us who voted to leave – are thick, you see.

None of us looked at the issues and decided that we believe the EU is an anachronism, that we want to be a globally trading nation or that we want to return to Parliamentary sovereignty. No. According to Lord Kerr, we voted to leave because we are bigots and “so bloody thick”. We should be grateful to Lord Kerr.

We rarely get to hear with such clarity what he and his ilk really think of us. Indeed, you might perhaps think that Lord Kerr is – how can we best put it? – pretty thick to have blurted out his true feelings about his fellow countrymen and women. You might well think that.


The danger will come if the political establishment tries to subvert the change that voters demanded


But I would put it another way: Lord Kerr is suffused with the all-consuming arrogance of the EU elite. And for the likes of Lord Kerr, the views of hoi polloi are so irrelevant that it most likely never crossed his mind to think or even care about how his words might go down.

It is easy to laugh at Lord Kerr. No satirist ever needs to create a character to represent everything wrong with our EUfanatic elite. Lord Kerr fits the bill all too perfectly but he is more than a comic character. He is profoundly dangerous. Lord Kerr is the true voice of the Remainers – utterly contemptuous of the British people.

They regard the Leave vote as invalid since it wrecks the cause that they believe is greater even than democracy itself. Most of them – Lord Kerr excepted – speak the language of acceptance but don’t be fooled. They don’t accept the vote for a second. They will do anything to find a way to usurp it.

That is why what Lord Kerr represents is so dangerous. We have seen in two key votes – the referendum and the US presidential election – that voters have had enough of the old politics handed down by the political establishment and want a change.

The danger will come if – or, perhaps more accurately, when – that political establishment tries to subvert the change that voters have demanded. If the political system refuses to bend when voters vote for change the system will be unsustainable. And none of us can know what will come next.

Our society and the freedoms we take for granted depend not just on respect for democracy but on certainty. Certainty that when voters speak politics does not just listen but follows. When the likes of Lord Kerr behave as if they have some kind of superior role to play they endanger everything.

Lord Kerr exposed Remoaners' disdain for Britain | Express Comment | Comment | Daily Express
 

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It is refreshing to hear our Prime Minister, Theresa May, say “it is time to remember the good that government can do”. This is quite a departure from the committed Free-market ideologues whose deafening cry was leave it all to the market, governments only get in the way, to work its magic of delivering efficiency and quality to everything. We will all be better off, they say, as wealth “trickles down” from the very wealthy to the rest of us. Their other analogy is that “a rising tide lifts all boats.”

This of course hasn’t happened; instead wealth has been trickling upwards to the 1%, while the rest suffer declining real incomes with the very poor and vulnerable suffering the most. She has also talked about “building an economy that works for everybody”. These two statements show that she is not driven by dogma, and willing to be flexible when evidence tells her otherwise.

Add to that another key phrase of hers, prioritizing help to the “just-managing families“. These statements translated into policies that could be enacted would be just what Britain needs. Will she be able to deliver the actions necessary to make these fine words a reality?

Housing insecurity is the prime cause of the hardships suffered by millions. Those just-managing families are now spending up to half of their disposable incomes on shelter. They live with the constant worry of losing their home. They are without any savings to speak of. More than 16 million people have savings of less than £100.

Those in rented accommodation have no security of long term tenure and are subject to the whims of landlords who could put the rents up or decide to sell the property instead of letting it out. The anxiety of living on the precipice of falling into the pit of homelessness takes its toll on the mental health of adults and children alike.

Adequate shelter is a fundamental human right; without it all other human rights pale into insignificance. Why can’t we build more affordable social housing? Councils across the UK know what is needed, let them borrow the money to build homes that could be rented long-term at affordable rents. It is an investment in the future that will prove to be cheaper to the taxpayer in the long term. It will bring happiness and peace of mind to millions of our citizens

Jeremy Corbyn, Leader of the Labour Party, made the following promise:


“We will build a million new homes in five years, with at least half a million council homes, through our public investment strategy. We will end insecurity for private renters by introducing rent controls, secure tenancies and a charter of private tenants’ rights, and increase access to affordable home ownership”

The Labour Party could go further by promising to make these homes energy efficient with smart meters, solar panels and good insulation helping those families with their energy bills and reducing our carbon footprint. It could do this through an architectural competition showcasing the talents of our engineers and architects to come up with innovative energy efficient designs at affordable cost.

This should not be a Party political issue; providing adequate housing is fundamental to what it is to be human. It is morally the right thing to do. Moreover it is good economics too. So Prime Minister, put dogma aside, pinch this policy from the Labour Party. Start doing now what Labour is promising to do and show us in deeds “the good that government can do”.

Theresa May: 'It Is Time To Remember The Good That Government Can DO' | The Huffington Post?
 

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Nigel Farage was forced to deny "duping" the British public over life outside the EU tonight after he was confronted on a radio phone-in.

A caller accused the ex-Ukip leader of encouraging poorer voters to make themselves worse off during the first of his nightly LBC radio shows.

'Chris from Manchester' told the ex-Ukip leader: "You've led the working class and the least well off in this country to vote for something that's ultimately going to be very bad for them."

Highlighting the plummeting pound, the caller told millionaire-backed Farage: "That's not something that's going to affect you."

He said he worked for a chemicals firm which had seen the prices of its goods rise by up to 20% already.

But Mr Farage claimed there would be a "genuine change" to the marketplace thanks to migration controls in future.

During the show the Leave fanatic complained he is "worried" about Theresa May's lack of a Brexit plan.

He slammed the Prime Minister's refusal to reveal her "vision" for Britain outside the EU, adding: "I want to know what the destination is".

Mr Farage claimed two-year exit trigger Article 50 should have been activated last year because European leaders will be too distracted by French and German elections this summer.

And calling for a global push for trade, he said: "I honestly don't see that this Prime Minister has got the energy, the excitement or the flair to do it.

"I'm worried and I fear a very frustrating 2017."

Nigel Farage denies 'duping' Britain's poorest voters as he's confronted on live radio phone-in - Mirror Online
 

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'Chris from Manchester' told the ex-Ukip leader: "You've led the working class and the least well off in this country to vote for something that's ultimately going to be very bad for them."

Where's Chris from Manchester's evidence that leaving a corrupt, undemocratic and economically sick union will leave the working class worse off? What's the EU done to improve the living conditions of the British working class?

Highlighting the plummeting pound, the caller told millionaire-backed Farage: "That's not something that's going to affect you."

The plummeting pound was nothing to do with Brexit (which hasn't happened yet). It was a result of it being simply too high and the Bank of England was, long before the EU vote, desperate for it to fall - and it eventually did.

You have to laugh at bewildered Remoaners like Chris from Manchester who say "But Brexit hasn't happened yet!" in response to good economic news whilst at the same time blaming things like the fall in the pound on Brexit.
 

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Nigel Farage was forced to deny "duping" the British public over life outside the EU tonight after he was confronted on a radio phone-in.

A caller accused the ex-Ukip leader of encouraging poorer voters to make themselves worse off during the first of his nightly LBC radio shows.

'Chris from Manchester' told the ex-Ukip leader: "You've led the working class and the least well off in this country to vote for something that's ultimately going to be very bad for them."

Highlighting the plummeting pound, the caller told millionaire-backed Farage: "That's not something that's going to affect you."

He said he worked for a chemicals firm which had seen the prices of its goods rise by up to 20% already.

But Mr Farage claimed there would be a "genuine change" to the marketplace thanks to migration controls in future.

During the show the Leave fanatic complained he is "worried" about Theresa May's lack of a Brexit plan.

He slammed the Prime Minister's refusal to reveal her "vision" for Britain outside the EU, adding: "I want to know what the destination is".

Mr Farage claimed two-year exit trigger Article 50 should have been activated last year because European leaders will be too distracted by French and German elections this summer.

And calling for a global push for trade, he said: "I honestly don't see that this Prime Minister has got the energy, the excitement or the flair to do it.

"I'm worried and I fear a very frustrating 2017."

Nigel Farage denies 'duping' Britain's poorest voters as he's confronted on live radio phone-in - Mirror Online

Didn't Farage have a Brexit plan? Instead of complaining, why does he not share his plan with May?
 

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In fact, a YouGov poll shows that the British people believe the working class will benefit the most from Brexit: