More of a collusion between 'two founding races.'
Maybe separation would be good to put an end to that myth.
Live in french in Montréal
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More of a collusion between 'two founding races.'
Maybe separation would be good to put an end to that myth.
When I see comments as silly as this about the Quebec nation (the language, the functioning of the Canadian federation and the history) I always wonder if it's just a manner of fooling around or lack of education and flangrant knowledge of simple facts.
The Canadian federation was founded by two nations. It is a fact. You can not rewrite history. That's not to say that injustices were not been created at this time to the Indians. The Indians should have been included in the discussions that led to the creation of the federation. But that was not the case.
That said, it does not mean that we should not repair this injustice. I am convinced that Quebecers are very open to discuss it and come to a solution acceptable to everyone. It sure takes the good will of everyone, including Canadian ROC.
The Canadian federation was founded by two nations. It is a fact. You can not rewrite history. That's not to say that injustices were not been created at this time to the Indians. The Indians should have been included in the discussions that led to the creation of the federation. But that was not the case.
That said, it does not mean that we should not repair this injustice. I am convinced that Quebecers are very open to discuss it and come to a solution acceptable to everyone. It sure takes the good will of everyone, including Canadian ROC.
Don't be silly. Murdering and driving them off worked just fine. And it was a point of agreement for Dougie McKenzie and Jacques du Lac.
Murdering and driving who ?
Edit: ok sorry I understand now
Who is Jacques du Lac ?
It is a fact, but an unjust one:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_bilingualism_in_Canada
The introduction to Book I of the report of the Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism published on 8 October 1967, states:
“Our terms of reference contain no allusion to Canada’s native populations. They speak of 'two founding races,' namely Canadians of British and French origin, and 'other ethnic groups,' but mention neither the Indians nor the Eskimos.”
Book II Chapter V.E of the same report, published on 23 May 1968, states that the government’s policy with reference to indigenous Canadians is “to integrate these students as completely as possible into the existing provincial school systems.”
This last statement is reinforced by the Honourable Jean Chrétien, Minister of Indian Affairs, in Statement of the Government of Canada on Indian Policy (the White Paper) presented in 1969 when he states that “the Indian culture can be preserved, perpetuated and developed only by the Indian people themselves.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_bilingualism_in_Canada
The Report of the Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism, Book I, General Introduction, Paragraph 19, states:
"Still, as we have pointed out earlier, there is such a thing as a French culture and a British culture. Of course, the differences between them are not as great as they would be if either were compared to one of the many Asian or African cultures. In Canada, the Anglophones and the Francophones wear the same sort of clothing, live in the same sort of houses, and use the same tools . They are very similar in their social behaviour, belong to religions which are not exclusive, and share the same general knowledge. To a greater or lesser extent, they share a North American way of living."
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When we consider how many English-Canadian high school students probably use Wikipedia to do their civics homework and then read quotes like the above, I have no doubt that this will affect their perception of official bilingualism, especially as more students learn about the Indian Residential School system.
This will inevitably affect the next generation's perceptions of Anglo-French Canada.
Referring to Jacques Cartier?
Jacques Cartier was died since 300 years when the canadian federation come up
I don't know Jacques du Lac. I'm just trying to guess.
I know Hector Langevin, Minister of Public Works under John A. NacDonald, oversaw the establishment of Canada's indian residential school system. Residential schools had existed previously, but they were voluntary and not part of a state-governed system.
So who do you think Jacques du Lac is?
The generic French Canadian, just like Dougie McKenzie is the generic Anglo Canadian.
OK I see
yep, what have been done to indians is a shame.
and you can also add Pedro Garcia to your short list ;-)
Got it. Like the French Canadian M Untel or the English Joe Bloggins.
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And Chon Wang. I understand there are more Mandarin speakers in Canada than French speakers.
No I was refering to Louisianna under the spanish regime....
More Mandarin speakers than french in ROC ? yes maybe.
I speak French and Chinese, and I can tell you that I speak a hell of a lot more Chinese than French when I visit Scarborough.
I did some research: their is 248 000 Mandarin Speakers in the canadian federation (including Quebec)
Their is more than 1 000 000 peoples that have french as mother tong in ROC....
so, no finally.
That's a bad analogy. When I was in China, I'd encountered more Esperanto speakers than French speakers, and more people learn Esperanto than French in Hungarian public schools. Does this mean that more people in the world speak Esperanto than French? Of course not! It just means that Esperanto might be more useful than French in some municipalities in the world. And since we usually interact with people in our own municipality in our daily lives, the language of the municipality is more important than that of the country, especially in a large country such as Canada. So it is still fair to say that for a person living in Toronto, Chinese is by far more useful than French. Your neighbour might speak Chinese, you hear it in local restaurants, etc. French is a language you hear after a very long car drive, train ride, or flight to Eastern Ontario at least.
In Ottawa, French is by far more useful than Chinese. But again, in our daily lives, we live in our own municipality except when traveling.
I know,but I was still pointing it out.
For example, there may be municipalities in Quebec where some other unofficial language is more useful than English. Maybe not, I don't know. You tell me.
But if so, it would silly to say that because more people speak English in Canada, that that language cannot be more useful than English in that particular municipality. Life occurs at the local level first and foremost.
In spite of the dominance if French in Quebec, English might still be more useful in some municipalities just due to simple local reality.
I guess my main point here is that regardless of hypothetical grand notions of nationhood, people live their lives in the real local world.