trudeau crossed the floor and pushed aside NDP MPs

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First calling any of them honorable is a joke. Not one of them has the value of a large double-double.

Second I'm not sure you are in touch with reality when you think calling someone pathetic is more egregious than assaulting multiple people.

I would insert a joke about your sexual preferences but you're obviously devoid of humor as well as intelligence


You're improving Nick................you saved your most uncomplimentary remark till the last! :) (You don't want to get people so rattled, they miss the important part of the message) :)
 

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I think that there is a difference between something not being one's duty, and something being inappropriate. I agree, though, that it might have been more the duty of Andrew Leslie, the chief government whip; but he's proven to be a bit questionable in his role, and I would be surprised if the prime minister keeps him on after the first substantial cabinet shuffle of this current Parliament.

In this case it wasn't his duty AND it was inappropriate. If it fell upon anyone as a duty it would be the speaker and only then to call security. No elected member has any duty or right to physically make contact with another unless invited as in a handshake or a hug. Pushing, shoving and pulling are all assault.
 

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Second I'm not sure you are in touch with reality when you think calling someone pathetic is more egregious than assaulting multiple people.
I encourage you to watch the footage.

Members of the New Democratic Party caucus were clearly physically preventing a member of the Conservative Party from passing. The footage makes it clear that this physical barricading was intentional and mischievous, and several MPs have substantiated that this was the case; it was an immature and irresponsible attempt by the House's third-place party to disrupt the proceedings of the House, and the entire kerfuffle would have been avoided had the NDP given the House the respect that it deserves as a democratic institution.

I would insert a joke about your sexual preferences but you're obviously devoid of humor as well as intelligence
One more reference to my sexual orientation as a part of this debate, and we're going to have a problem. This is the third time this week that you have made comments about my sexual orientation, or made crude sexual references about me, and it is not going to continue.

Govern yourself accordingly.
 

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I think that there is a difference between something not being one's duty, and something being inappropriate. I agree, though, that it might have been more the duty of Andrew Leslie, the chief government whip; but he's proven to be a bit questionable in his role, and I would be surprised if the prime minister keeps him on after the first substantial cabinet shuffle of this current Parliament.

He should be dumped as quickly as possible. Not only is he incompetent, he charged the military $72,000 to move two blocks in Ottawa. If this idiot ever gets a real portfolio, I will be passing on a few more interesting anecdotes about his military conduct.

He may not have used the best strategy, but I do think that the prime minister has a role to play when it comes to ensure that the government's legislative agenda advances when it comes to something as important as a physician-assisted dying bill making it through the parliamentary process by the due date handed down to them by the Supreme Court of Canada.

And the Honourable Thomas Mulcair, P.C., M.P., was definitely the more egregious party in my books; his conduct in shouting down the head of government, and calling him "pathetic" in the House, was far more unparliamentary than anything that transpired between the prime minister and the MP for Berthier—Maskinongé. THis justified a question of privilege, certainly.

He should have let the Speaker do his job or have called upon him to do so. His actions made him look extremely arrogant.

If the Sergeant at Arms had not been overseas tackling protesters this would have ever happened. :)
 
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He should be dumped as quickly as possible. Not only is he incompetent, he charged the military $72,000 to move two blocks in Ottawa. If this idiot ever gets a real portfolio, I will be passing on a few more interesting anecdotes about his military conduct.
For the Chief Government Whip to be responsible for coordinating the Government's votes with such a substantial majority, and to then oversee the vote on Bill C-10 land at a 139-to-139 vote, is unfathomable. The Government should not be depending upon the casting vote of the Speaker when they have a majority of 15. For that vote alone, the whip should be turfed.

If the Sergeant at Arms had been overseas tackling protesters this would have ever happened. :)
I agree with you there.
 

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I encourage you to watch the footage.
I have
Members of the New Democratic Party caucus were clearly physically preventing a member of the Conservative Party from passing. The footage makes it clear that this physical barricading was intentional and mischievous, and several MPs have substantiated that this was the case; it was an immature and irresponsible attempt by the House's third-place party to disrupt the proceedings of the House, and the entire kerfuffle would have been avoided had the NDP given the House the respect that it deserves as a democratic institution.
So Trudeau assaulting multiple people while showing he has no self control is totally excused because others were acting disrespectfully? Sounds like you and he are far more immature than any of them.

One more reference to my sexual orientation as a part of this debate, and we're going to have a problem. This is the third time this week that you have made comments about my sexual orientation, or made crude sexual references about me, and it is not going to continue.

Govern yourself accordingly.
Oh no the dreaded green. LOL WTF do you think you are god or something? Can't take the heat? Did I touch a nerve? Being a mod doesn't mean you get to use mod powers because you don't like a comment. Ban me if you want, just shows how petty and immature and how undeserving of the mod title you are. Do you ban everyone who calls you a name or posts a dissenting opinion? Quite the little dicktatorship you want to have eh? Maybe an email to the real boss about your ego trip is in order.
 

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I don't know, Nick, I think personal insults are out of bounds. I don't criticize you for it as I do it myself but only to one or two real a$$holes, AFTER I've already made up my mind they'd be well worth getting banned over. Do you think Five P fits that description?
 

FiveParadox

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Oh no the dreaded green. LOL WTF do you think you are god or something? Can't take the heat? Did I touch a nerve? Being a mod doesn't mean you get to use mod powers because you don't like a comment. Ban me if you want, just shows how petty and immature and how undeserving of the mod title you are. Do you ban everyone who calls you a name or posts a dissenting opinion? Quite the little dicktatorship you want to have eh? Maybe an email to the real boss about your ego trip is in order.

I don't tend to go off just because " don't like a comment," and I don't think it's "petty and immature" for me to insist that even if we're going to disagree on Trudeau's conduct, it's not a valid reason or defence for you to use homophobic and sexually crude references about another user on this forum, me included. Go ahead and send your email; I invite you to.
 

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I don't tend to go off just because " don't like a comment," and I don't think it's "petty and immature" for me to insist that even if we're going to disagree on Trudeau's conduct, it's not a valid reason or defence for you to use homophobic and sexually crude references about another user on this forum, me included. Go ahead and send your email; I invite you to.


Already did. You got a problem with the interaction when you are acting like a regular member send it to another mod and let them decide and deal with it. Making threats because you happen to have a little power and don't like what's being said is totally petty and shows a level of insecurity and self-loathing that makes me pity you. I have a real job and a real life and this is just a little fun. I suggest you grow a thicker skin if you plan on hanging around or posting much because right now you look like a spoiled brat. I imagine you did the same thing as a kid..."It's my ball and my net so do as I say and let me win or I'm taking it all and going home". Sounds to me like you want CanCon to become another, even more left-wing and overly politically correct, version of Rabble where even saying sex or black or indian gets you banned. If that's the case why not just go to Rabble and stay away from the adults here that might hurt your tender sensibilities.
 

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It was the nicest pic that came up for sexy judge in leather. Just because she is a Xfactor member does enter into it if taken to the limits. Any certain lamppost I should be hanging myself from??

try judge Faith dude. thou shalt fap.

If you weren't so pathetic you might even get a laugh or two. :) :) Maybe you can find some quick sand near by to go wade in!

if that's all you had stored up after a week of blue balls for your troll, you might as well leave the internet pal. Lol.

You really are a brain dead A$$hole aren't you. It was YOU who made such a big deal about me forgetting to remove the "S" and broadcasting to the whole wide world how stupid I was! You are too stupid to pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.

*then he realizes how lame his first response was. Lol again.

yes putz, you were tutored and retutored by me and multiple members for years about how to post youtube videos yet you still can't do it. we know. lurk moar, post less.

I would insert a joke about your sexual preferences

really? to what end? sounds as pathetic and childish as the 'big head' derogatory remark, bad breaker-upper guy that elaine dated in that andrea doria seinfeld episode.

you should try harder than to be that lowest common denominator commenter bud. because man, you come off like a goddamn five year old.

kinda like picking on another member because they were an aspy or an aboriginal or whatnot. you can do better. surely.

Already did.

again...really? you 'told on him'? to 'the real boss'. Lol

talk about:

tender sensibilities.




god bless the internet.
 

JLM

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if that's all you had stored up after a week of blue balls for your troll, you might as well leave the internet pal. Lol.



*then he realizes how lame his first response was. Lol again.

yes putz, you were tutored and retutored by me and multiple members for years about how to post youtube videos yet you still can't do it. we know. lurk moar, post less.





Lying A$$hole! It's a wonder the likes of you can survive in the real world!
 

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:lol: This thread is the funniest one in a while.

Please don't ban PoliticalTwit, 5P. He's got great entertainment value.

The forum can use a retard to keep things intresting.
 

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Already did. You got a problem with the interaction when you are acting like a regular member send it to another mod and let them decide and deal with it.

You asked for it......


Making threats because you happen to have a little power and don't like what's being said is totally petty and shows a level of insecurity and self-loathing that makes me pity you. I have a real job and a real life and this is just a little fun.
You keep right on saying that, about having a real life and all. Who knows, maybe someone will even believe you!

Or, you know, care.

Oh and I assume that the term "little" is meant to refer to the size of your intellect because only someone with the mental capacity of a small child would find you amusing.

I suggest you grow a thicker skin if you plan on hanging around or posting much because right now you look like a spoiled brat. I imagine you did the same thing as a kid..."It's my ball and my net so do as I say and let me win or I'm taking it all and going home". Sounds to me like you want CanCon to become another, even more left-wing and overly politically correct, version of Rabble where even saying sex or black or indian gets you banned. If that's the case why not just go to Rabble and stay away from the adults here that might hurt your tender sensibilities.
What is truly hilarious here, Nicky, is that you want to use crude and utterly childish taunts regarding FiveP's sexual orientation AND you somehow seem to think that you are an adult here???? That is beyond hysterical!!!


All right, time to wrap this up. Bottom line, there was a line, you crossed it. I don't care if you agree, I don't care if you acknowledge it. Don't cross it again, I will not waste my time with it, I will just get rid of you. Period. I do not care how many PMs you want to threaten to send to Andem, got it?
 

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Regardless of who was blocking who, Justin had no business over there whatsoever. Period. Everything else is just drama.
I don't see much difference between what Trudeau did and the ndp did. IMO, the ndp do not deserve a pass on this one. I find it hypocritical to make a big deal about one and not the other. If I had my way,the heat would still be on Trudeau but would also be on the people that were deliberately blocking the conservative whip. What a childish bully thing to do.
 

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I don't see much difference between what Trudeau did and the ndp did. IMO, the ndp do not deserve a pass on this one. I find it hypocritical to make a big deal about one and not the other. If I had my way,the heat would still be on Trudeau but would also be on the people that were deliberately blocking the conservative whip. What a childish bully thing to do.

Based on the Poll results the NDP suffered the most from this even though the Cons called it a 'molestation' and not an assault.......

If denizens of Canada’s Parliamentary Press Gallery used the Victoria Day weekend to visit with family and friends back home, they will have noticed a vast gulf between their impression of elbowgate and the views of citizens at large.

Perhaps Parliament Hill regulars discounted the NDP’s juvenile jockeying to keep Conservative Whip Gord Brown from taking his seat because such stuff and nonsense is so commonplace in the House, but the public is not so jaded. In a widely shared blog post, NDP supporter Rob McCaghren of Nanaimo wrote:

Watching Tom Mulcair and his caucus create a wall of bodies with which to block Conservative whip Gordon Brown from getting to his seat for the vote on bill C-14 was like watching a clique of jocks blocking the new kid from getting to his locker. Or the shy kid from getting out of the washroom. It was weird, passive aggressive, and horribly childish….

While I can’t say PM Trudeau was in the right to cross the floor like he did, I absolutely understand why he did. Seeing this display of prepubescent posturing, he walked over, took Gordon Brown by the elbow, escorted him through a crowd of grown adults acting like children, and sent him on to his seat with a pat on the shoulder so the vote could go ahead. The way I saw it, it was a gesture of assistance–the NDP acting like brats, grinning and smirking while blocking the path between a whip and his seat, and the Prime Minister of Canada–an elected leader of the country who has the task of leading–comes over and puts an end to their silliness by getting Brown to his seat.
 

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:lol: This thread is the funniest one in a while.

Please don't ban PoliticalTwit, 5P. He's got great entertainment value.

The forum can use a retard to keep things intresting.


There's a couple of them on board here, Angstrom! :)
 

PoliticalNick

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got it? [/COLOR][/B]

Not really...explain it all again but in Yiddish.

I can't believe you are a mod either but it seems you and 5p have a lot in common about using mod powers for personal reasons from what I hear. I know you will be pissed at me forever for calling you out as bear's puppet and are probably itching to hit that ban button. Go ahead if it makes you feel all better about yourself. Camping season is upon us and I don't get internet out there. I took a long hiatus from here because of power trippers thinking they run the board and come back to find mods on power trips. So be it.

Btw...just interested to know if 5p actually flagged my post(s) or you just decided to jump in and fight his battles on your own because you don't like me? I can make a guess but thought I would let you answer.

To the rest of the membership....since I'm probably about to be banned.

Its been fun. Some of you I like. Some of you I don't. You all probably know which side you're on. All of you though make this place somewhat interesting and a little enjoyable to pass some time. I'm not sure I would hang around much anyway considering where the power now lies. Sure this board is still better than Rabble but apparently not for long at this rate. So in case I do get sentenced to exile...Bye all, see ya in the funny papers. If not...see you later...gotta work and pay the man.
 

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I'm not sure I would hang around much anyway considering where the power now lies.

There's no fukkin' 'power' here pal. What delusional world you living in.

CC is still full of trolls and fukknuts. If they were all unwelcome they'd be gone. Guess they know when to reign it in or draw the line.

Unlike you earlier. You could have just saved yourself face, shown us to be a man and said "Sorry Paradox, I was an a
sshole for picking on your gay lifestyle" and just moved on to debating, slagging, criticizing him or whatever the hell you wanted.

But no.