Islam has started a world war conflict

[Tecumsehsbones]

Were in the teachings of Jesus Christ does it condone violence ?

Noplace I know of, except maybe the moneychangers in the temple thing. Oh, and Jesus OKing stoning the woman taken in adultery. And maybe the part about "I do not come to bring peace, but a sword." And the eternal damnation stuff.

Oh, and the part about coming to fulfill the law. The law he's fulfilling appears to be the Old Testament law, which was pretty violent.

Speaking of the Old Testament, is it part of the Christian bible or not? Seems to me plenty of Christians make a big deal of the Commandments, but those are in Exodus.

So, is the teachings of Jesus the only source of rules for Christians, or does the Old Testament count too, as I've heard so many Christians claim?

I don't know, really. I gave up on all that crap when I bailed from the Indian school. Been a lotta years now.

But there is a big diffrences in the two fanatics. One helped in producing the system you now share respect and love.

So did Islam.

Question: are you proposing that Christian fanatics should be allowed to kill abortion clinic workers? Because they allegedly helped in producing the system (near as I can tell, the system was pretty much in place before the first doctor was murdered. . . oops, sorry. . . died).

 

[Angstrom]

So did Islam.

Question: are you proposing that Christian fanatics should be allowed to kill abortion clinic workers? Because they allegedly helped in producing the system (near as I can tell, the system was pretty much in place before the first doctor was murdered. . . oops, sorry. . . died).

I don't know where you would get that from what I said.


I'm saying the relative difficulty of success of assimilation of a fanatic Christian is not the same then a Fanatic Islamist, relative to the different circumstances of their reality.

I think it's neive to treat both as the same. Even if it's noted they share one common trait. Fanaticm

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't know where you would get that from what I said.

I'm not sure of the connection myself. That's why I asked.

I'm saying the relative difficulty of success of assimilation of a fanatic Christian is not the same then a Fanatic Islamist, relative to the different circumstances of their reality.

I don't know. The fanatical Christians killed over 90% of the population of North America. That's relatively difficult in my book.

 

[Angstrom]

I'm not sure of the connection myself. That's why I asked.



I don't know. The fanatical Christians killed over 90% of the population of North America. That's relatively difficult in my book.

Good example why anyone would want to stop Islamic fanatics,no?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Good example why anyone would want to stop Islamic fanatics,no?

Um. . . no. You seem to think that the genocide of the locals and replacement with your system was a good thing. If it was good in 1491-1912, why is it bad now?

 

[Angstrom]

Um. . . no. You seem to think that the genocide of the locals and replacement with your system was a good thing. If it was good in 1491-1912, why is it bad now?

Because I enjoy a statistically proven higher level of quality living then the rest of the planet. And that's worth protecting.

Unless you feel it's better we go back to living in dirt huts, Or forward into fanatic Islamic belief?

 

[Walter]

We used to burn people alive.

Muzzies still do.

 

[Angstrom]

We have freedom of religion in North America. But you are not free to believe in it fanatically, by burning people alive.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

We have freedom of religion in North America. But you are not free to believe in it fanatically.

Good luck in your efforts to end freedom of religion in Canada.

 

[Machjo]

So when Muslims lobby governments to create hate speech laws to stop criticism of Islam, you are completely against that.

It' is a big crime to criticize The Quran for fanatics. Punishable by death.

What does that have to do with Islám any more than killing abortion doctors has to do with the Christian Faith?

Because I enjoy a statistically proven higher level of quality living then the rest of the planet. And that's worth protecting.

Unless you feel it's better we go back to living in dirt huts, Or forward into fanatic Islamic belief?

Those are the only options you can see?

 

[Angstrom]

What does that have to do with Islám any more than killing abortion doctors has to do with the Christian Faith?

The Quran dose not accept criticism. It's punishable by death. Abortion is not acceptable by the Christian church.

Those are the only options you can see?

What are your other options so we may consider them.

Good luck in your efforts to end freedom of religion in Canada.

Our religious freedom is a fraud already. Fanatism is not acceptable under our current rules.

It's just a illusion of freedom to not offend.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Our religious freedom is a fraud already.

Odd. A few posts back you said North America had freedom of religion.

You realize, I hope, you ain't exactly being a model of consistency here.

 

[Angstrom]

Odd. A few posts back you said North America had freedom of religion.

You realize, I hope, you ain't exactly being a model of consistency here.

I know, it's through our discution that I've been able to come to this realization. Thanks

After really looking at the reality. I realize it's just a soft power illusion to keep the fanatics from feeling targeted. Give the illusion of freedom instead of fighting and having to enforce its crime.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I know, it's through our discution that I've been able to come to this realization. Thanks

After really looking at the reality. I realize it's just a soft power illusion to keep the fanatics from feeling targeted. Give the illusion of freedom instead of fighting and having to enforce its crime.

You're big on jargon.

 

[Machjo]

The Quran dose not accept criticism. It's punishable by death. Abortion is not acceptable by the Christian church.


What are your other options so we may consider them.



Our religious freedom is a fraud already. Fanatism is not acceptable under our current rules.

It's just a illusion of freedom to not offend.

A number of verses make it clear that a person is free to turn away from Islám. That said,Islám was under siege in its early days so many of the verses pertaining to war refer to a defensive war against oppression.

 

[Angstrom]

You're big on jargon.

It's a complex world I live in.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It's a complex world I live in.

You do a pretty good job of simplifying it.

 

[Machjo]

I know, it's through our discution that I've been able to come to this realization. Thanks

After really looking at the reality. I realize it's just a soft power illusion to keep the fanatics from feeling targeted. Give the illusion of freedom instead of fighting and having to enforce its crime.

The law does target not Fanatics, but certain fanatical acts. Just like any other law. There is a law against committing murder but not against being a murderer, against committing theft but not against being a thief, etc.

It's a complex world I live in.

Far more complex than I can understand.

In my simple world, every situation needs to be rationally analysed on its own merits.

 

[Angstrom]

You do a pretty good job of simplifying it.

For the purpose of discution, I have no choice.

 

[Ludlow]

For the purpose of discution, I have no choice.

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