Why disbelievers deny the Next Life
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I am sure this is really going to upset you but what the heck.........While I do not believe in the biblical nor the Quran God, I do know that some sort of survival of personality/soul exists after death. I have been given personal proof from two children, a husband, mother and father, plus multiple friends. Each has managed to make me aware of their existence after death.
I am not sure how long such existence lives, nor have I experienced proof of rebirth in this reality. There are many experiences recorded by doctors (many hundreds of them) of children who remembered their past lives and have given enough information to prove their previous existence. For many these children it is not a pleasant experience to realize they do not have the same parents, or that their previous families have moved on without them.
So while, I know there is more beyond this life, I will await personal experience before believing in nasty gods that could produce evolution in most species but could not forgive transgressions resulting from being given free will. I lean towards having faith in an Entity that sets up the program and has enough faith in his creations to learn through experience.
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Oh, so it's the Zionists (whomever they might be) that blew up
the Belgians in Belgium last week, and the Parisians in Paris
last month, and are beheading oilfield workers and tourists.
Seriously Selfsame, tell me about the last time you've heard of
a non-Muslim beheading anyone? Convert to be saved? From
what and from whom?
Damn those Zionists for the whole Charlie Hebdo thing and the
Boston Marathon bombing and several hundred other cowardly
terrorist attacks claimed by Muslim extremists, eh?
Go ahead. List them. Who's going to Hell? Who are the deluded
that think they are faithful, but are misguided in their indoctrination?
Tell me what an infidel is. Tell me what fate an infidel deserves.
Muslims blow each other up it seems as often as they
blow up other innocents in a rabid justification hidden
behind a claim of religion. Muslims divide themselves
without any need of help from others. Sunnis killing Shiites
and Shiites killing Sunnis, and both killing the Kurds, and
all hating the Jews.....such utter waste.
"Convert to be saved and this is your final chance?" Your
sales pitch is a failure.
I remember how brainwashed and indoctrinated I was as a young man. I could not even conceive of anything different than what I had been taught. It was almost like I was walking in a fog. Would not listen to reason, nor acknowledge any possibility at all that what I believed might be wrong. I think it is that way with Selfsame but even more so because of where he has lived all of his life.
I thin there are many more of them who are like this then we first imagined.
Only one way to save them, Help them along to meet their maker.
Where is Selfsame from & where has he lived all his life?
I'd ask, but I might only find out where the other guy who
does his thinking for him lives....
I thought Iraq. Some Muslim country but hell this I the net he could live in Chicago for all I know.
Memo to LudLowLife: The following is meant to help us understand the 'ending of things' as far as the books alone promote. Have a seat and some popcorn and watch the pin-pong match, Thanks in advance.
The next change in covenants comes on the day the two witnesses are resurrected from the grave. In the time they were in the grave Satan and the Beast from the Pit have been able to rule over Jerusalem and that joins the rest of the world that came under their control 3 1/2 years before that day.
The two witnesses rise as high as the low hanging clouds are and the 144,000 are on a mountain top at the north end of the Sea of Galilee. A few Gentiles who see through the lie make it to a vantage point in the hills surrounding Jerusalem and 'the rest' may see through the lie before they die but they do die none the less. That is the dividing line for who is alive on the earth from that moment on and who is dead and in the grave from that moment on.
This is the sheep/goats separation of the Church and over the globe 2/3 will die and 1/3 remains alive and over the next month they walk to Jerusalem. The walking is so they can witness the destruction of the Gentile cities and them talk about that during the yearly visits to Jerusalem over the next 1,000 years.
The 144,000 witness the literal resurrection of the rest of the 12 Tribes as they come out of the grave in from of them and they walk as a group to the river where they are given the 'living water' that Jesus drank when He went to see God and be glorified. (Eze:47) Their first task as a 'whole people' is to clean the place up over the next 7 years. The Gentiles will walk in from the east so they drink the water before coming into Israel for the feast of the tabernacles. (first of 1,000 such feasts) and then a very big event happens. They are judged by God in Heaven. Depending on your reply some passages hold more water than others in the Bible so I'll wait to see which direction this goes.
The next change in covenants comes on the day the two witnesses are resurrected from the grave. In the time they were in the grave Satan and the Beast from the Pit have been able to rule over Jerusalem and that joins the rest of the world that came under their control 3 1/2 years before that day.
The two witnesses rise as high as the low hanging clouds are and the 144,000 are on a mountain top at the north end of the Sea of Galilee. A few Gentiles who see through the lie make it to a vantage point in the hills surrounding Jerusalem and 'the rest' may see through the lie before they die but they do die none the less. That is the dividing line for who is alive on the earth from that moment on and who is dead and in the grave from that moment on.
This is the sheep/goats separation of the Church and over the globe 2/3 will die and 1/3 remains alive and over the next month they walk to Jerusalem. The walking is so they can witness the destruction of the Gentile cities and them talk about that during the yearly visits to Jerusalem over the next 1,000 years.
The 144,000 witness the literal resurrection of the rest of the 12 Tribes as they come out of the grave in from of them and they walk as a group to the river where they are given the 'living water' that Jesus drank when He went to see God and be glorified. (Eze:47) Their first task as a 'whole people' is to clean the place up over the next 7 years. The Gentiles will walk in from the east so they drink the water before coming into Israel for the feast of the tabernacles. (first of 1,000 such feasts) and then a very big event happens. They are judged by God in Heaven. Depending on your reply some passages hold more water than others in the Bible so I'll wait to see which direction this goes.
Short question LudLowLife, in the American Southwest is 'dusty' a weather condition or a name of a person??
answer: take your pills
Maybe you can give him a job in your garage cabinet shop
Question for MHz : Are the staff at the nervous hospital gonna let you crazy azz inmates have an Easter egg hunt today?
I doubt they will let him do wood working on the West Block of the Canadian Parlement édifice with me.
I'm surprised they let you.
Must be a shortage of decent cabinet makers where you live
Not anymore, the choices have been made and the winner is the inmates have decided to have a round-robin discussion in the merits of having Passover be determined by a full moon whose monthly new moon was in the winter rather than being based on the month starting with the first new moon after the winter/summer equinox. Landslide vote it was, how about you, how many eggs did you find last year?
So your parents used to hide food from you did they? The eggs we got hatched that same morning and then we fed them until they could hunt for food on the ground under their feet.. Remember when embyro laden eggs were called hard boiled just so they could be sold? Who would be stupid enough to fall for something like that???
Was that the recommended treatment for them (and you) as given by a professional??I use to let my children who are grown now have an egg hunt every year. I just though it might be therapeutic for you mental patients to get some fresh out there hunting for eggs especially the delusional schizos such as yeself.
The exercise was speed related rather than winning an award. It takes a lot longer to type it out than think it up. That would be the opposite with you but should be able to relate at the more basic level.
One thing is for sure, there isn't a shortage of jealous hacks.
I doubt they could handle the fine work on heritage doors like the ones I've been entrusted, to restore and modernize.
Maybe I'd put you with my apprentices working on the window sash's. I'd doubt you could keep up with them.