Why disbelievers deny the Next Life

[Angstrom]

News Flash. They both believe in the same God. What does that do to your theory? In case you haven't looked around the Jews are not doing any better than the Gentile Muslims or the Gentile Christians.

Well by the looks of things Christian>Jew's>Islam

So it looks to me like Islam has the worst messenger from God of all 3, if he was supposed to lead his people to prosperity. How can you claim this Mohamed is blessed and glorious when your people are mostly living in $hit holes. It just isn't adding up.

Islamist countries are so horrible, Muslimes are fleeing them by the hundreds of thousands. How can this religion be so blessed and glorious ? I mean, yes I know most humans are retarded. But it doesn't take a brain sergeant to figure this simple addition. Islam is a **** show cult religion.

You would have to be brainwashed from birth to believe in this Islam crap.

 

[MHz]

Perhaps you have forgotten the Holy Wars that are still going on today, so what is that about 1,000 years? Do you think the Muslims live in ghettos by choice? That would mean the Jews of WWII lived in ghettos by choice also although the Jewish bankers kept them in those condition for their own purposes. The Muslims were more than willing the help Gaza and the West bank but Israel demanded the money be paid to them and they just kept 90% of it. No different today, any aid that is sent there is rifled through by the Jews and only the garbage is let through. Where did you information come from because it is seriously flawed? When the truth emerges Christians and Jews aren't very nice people by any stretch of the imagination, I say that in all honesty as a Christian also.

 

[Angstrom]

Perhaps you have forgotten the Holy Wars that are still going on today, so what is that about 1,000 years? Do you think the Muslims live in ghettos by choice? That would mean the Jews of WWII lived in ghettos by choice also although the Jewish bankers kept them in those condition for their own purposes. The Muslims were more than willing the help Gaza and the West bank but Israel demanded the money be paid to them and they just kept 90% of it. No different today, any aid that is sent there is rifled through by the Jews and only the garbage is let through. Where did you information come from because it is seriously flawed? When the truth emerges Christians and Jews aren't very nice people by any stretch of the imagination, I say that in all honesty as a Christian also.

I'm not talking about niceness.

But even if we did, I'd still say Christians treat others Christian nice. And Jews treat other Jews nice. Islam still stone to death each other.....

By rank of niceness, Islam still is at the bottom.

Try immigrating to a Islam country and see how nice they are.

Bet you don't live to tell us how nice they are.

 

[Ludlow]

I've known and worked with all three. not so many muslims. a cab driver or two. Muslims seem to be aloof as do many Christians as to say,,,well I'm a little better than you. Pastor Flanagan is a prime example of that. But as for me, the nicest people I've known, and worked with and for, and have been good loyal friends,,,are the Jewish people. Hands down.

 

[MHz]

No they don't unless they are being forced to. Ireland was Christians doing each other in over nothing, same as the EU when they couldn't find and heathen Gentiles to kill.
Bet Christians in Iran have it better than Muslims in Christian Nations (UK and US and Canada will do) It isn't how well you treat each other, it is how good you treat others from different religions that determines if you are a child of God or not.

M't:5:46:
For if ye love them which love you,
what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?
M't:5:47:
And if ye salute your brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
do not even the publicans so?

 

[bluebyrd35]

Oh MY Word!! This is what religion does. One hates Jews, another Christians and another here, Muslims and all claim their particular belief is all about love. Wake up folks.

 

[Ludlow]

You'll never see more hateful discussions than you will in religious or political dialogue.

 

[selfsame]

I'm not talking about niceness.

But even if we did, I'd still say Christians treat others Christian nice. And Jews treat other Jews nice. Islam still stone to death each other.....

By rank of niceness, Islam still is at the bottom.

Try immigrating to a Islam country and see how nice they are.

Bet you don't live to tell us how nice they are.

Zionists, why don't you become good people and treat others with goodness and niceness, because you are nice he he he?

Be good and show good manners and do not transgress on the rights of Palestinians and the Arab, and don't spread corruption everywhere, and then Muslims will have a good impression about you, and in the future they will treat you well, and may allow you to live in Palestine in peace, together with them.
This will be your last chance.

The other way which will save you: you should convert and become Muslims, and you will then be like other Muslims, and have the same privilege and rights.
Or else your future is very dark and ominous.

Don't you see that Christians are loved in our community? Why is this: because they are not malicious like you, Zionists.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Warning_to_Zionists_of_Perishing_

 

[Angstrom]

Zionists, why don't you become good people and treat others with goodness and niceness, because you are nice he he he?

Be good and show good manners and do not transgress on the rights of Palestinians and the Arab, and don't spread corruption everywhere, and then Muslims will have a good impression about you, and in the future they will treat you well, and may allow you to live in Palestine in peace.
This will be your last chance.

Don't you see that Christians are loved in our community? Why is this: because they are not malicious like you, Zionists.

I don't think so, because I wouldn't enjoy my life living under such oppressive beliefs as you have. It is your own wickedness that has brought gods Zionism on you.

 

[selfsame]

I don't think so, because I wouldn't enjoy my life living under such oppressive beliefs as you have. It is your own wickedness that has brought gods Zionism on you.

On the contrary, the Quran brings the same original teachings brought by Moses from God, and it includes amelioration and alleviation of the heavy statements of the Torah which were imposed on you on account of your disobedience, so by embracing the Islam such heavy bonds will be relieved from you.

The religion of the Islam stands middle between the heavy duties of Judaism and the non-observance of Christianity.
The Disagreement of the

NB: a large number of Jews will believe in the Mahdi when he will come and produce his interpretation of the Quran and the Bible.

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Making the religious duties hard for Jews and easy for Muslims:
The Disagreement of the

Examples of the hard duties imposed on Jews:
>> The Prohibition of Some of the Cattle and Animals for Them (like the camel, the rabbit)
>> Woman in the Postnatal Period
>> Woman in Her Monthly Cycle According to the Hebrew Bible of Ezra
>> Prohibition of Fat for Jews.

 

[Angstrom]

On the contrary, the Quran brings the same original teachings brought by Moses from God, and it includes amelioration and alleviation of the heavy statements of the Torah which were imposed on you on account of your disobedience, so by embracing the Islam such heavy bonds will be relieved from you.

The religion of the Islam stands middle between the heavy duties of Judaism and the non-observance of Christianity.
The Disagreement of the

NB: a large number of Jews will believe in the Mahdi when he will come and produce his interpretation of the Quran and the Bible.

But what if I told you that God continues to show his love to this day, and he has made it clear that he's tired of the pretentiousness Jews Christians and even more Muslims have in believing they are his true voice.

And that he has abandoned them all to misery. And that he now loves Atheists most.

Then it would make all perfect sense as Athiest enjoy the best lives on earth at the present day.

And they have shown to be the least wicked ones of all 4 groups.

 

[selfsame]

But what if I told you that God continues to show his love to this day, and he has made it clear that he's tired of the pretentiousness Jews Christians and even more Muslims have in believing they are his true voice.

And that he has abandoned them all to misery. And that he now loves Atheists most.

Then it would make all perfect sense as Athiest enjoy the best lives on earth at the present day.

And they have shown to be the least wicked ones of all 4 groups.

I will prove to you now that God does not love Jews, Christians or even Muslims: but he loves the one devoting himself to Him alone without any peer, son or patron other than only God Most Gracious.
Does God love the rich so He gave him much wealth? Or does He hate the poor and so He gives him little provision?
This is a complete subject by its own.

Anyhow, you think God loves Jews in particular? So why He set on them many tyrants in the past, and even among themselves: see the Book of Judges. Why in the recent history, God set on them Hitler? So they should be bad!?

Moreover, if God loves Jews, as you think, why they suffer many losses of family members and why do they have diseases?

So God loves Jews in particular and so He makes them victorious now, as you imagine? Then does He love the atheists among them, and there is a large number of Jews that are atheists, and blasphemes against God and against Moses their prophet even?

Therefore, these are only illusions that the rabbis said: that they are the chosen people of God?
Yes, in the time of Moses and Joshua they were the chosen people of God because they worshiped Him alone and discarded and refused the idols, but later on they fell in the idolatry.
Then the believers in Jesus and his followers in his time: they were chosen also by God.
And the believers in Mohammed who followed him they were and are chosen by God, because He guided them to worship Him alone.

Do you believe in Moses or not? So if you believe in Moses that he was sent by God, why don't you believe that God can send others? And who can impose on God that He should not send anyone else than Moses? So Moses was not the first one neither was he the last.

 

[Ron in Regina]

....Be good and show good manners and do not transgress on the rights of Palestinians and the Arab, and don't spread corruption everywhere, and then Muslims will have a good impression about you, and in the future they will treat you well, and may allow you to live in Palestine in peace, together with them.
This will be your last chance.

This sure sounds imposing in an, "Or Else!" sort of way. This doesn't
come across as coming from a religion of peace Selfsame.

What if a Palestinian or the Arab transgress on the rights of others? Is that
acceptable? Does it matter if the transgression is against the infidel?

The other way which will save you: you should convert and become Muslims, and you will then be like other Muslims, and have the same privilege and rights.
Or else your future is very dark and ominous.

So are you saying that non-Muslims don't and shouldn't have
the same privilege and rights as Muslims?

The same privilege and rights as the Sunni or the Shiite? The
privilege and rights as a Sunni in Iran, or privilege and rights
as a Shiite in Saudi Arabia?

What are you talking about being saved from? Being saved
currently or in an afterlife? Your words have peaked my
interest. It's good to hear your words, and not this other
fellows in another 'copy & paste' disaster.

 

[Angstrom]

I will prove to you now that God does not love Jews, Christians or even Muslims: but he loves the one devoting himself to Him alone without any peer, son or patron other than only God Most Gracious.
Does God love the rich so He gave him much wealth? Or does He hate the poor and so He gives him little provision?
This is a complete subject by its own.

Anyhow, you think God loves Jews in particular? So why He set on them many tyrants in the past, and even among themselves: see the Book of Judges. Why in the recent history, God set on them Hitler? So they should be bad!?

Moreover, if God loves Jews, as you think, why they suffer many losses of family members and why do they have diseases?

So God loves Jews in particular and so He makes them victorious now, as you imagine? Then does He love the atheists among them, and there is a large number of Jews that are atheists, and blasphemes against God and against Moses their prophet even?

Therefore, these are only illusions that the rabbis said: that they are the chosen people of God?
Yes, in the time of Moses and Joshua they were the chosen people of God because they worshiped Him alone and discarded and refused the idols, but later on they fell in the idolatry.
Then the believers in Jesus and his followers in his time: they were chosen also by God.
And the believers in Mohammed who followed him they were and are chosen by God, because He guided them to worship Him alone.

Do you believe in Moses or not? So if you believe in Moses that he was sent by God, why don't you believe that God can send others? And who can impose on God that He should not send anyone else than Moses? So Moses was not the first one neither was he the last.

You will die trying because you are not loved by God. You have already proven to him that you are wicked, And he will annihilate you at the first chance once you show your wickedness again. You already have been warned by God. I do not think he will be as kind and forgiving to your people this time.

 

[selfsame]

This sure sounds imposing in an, "Or Else!" sort of way. This doesn't
come across as coming from a religion of peace Selfsame.

What religion of peace? The peace is for the peaceful. What a fallacy: The Imperialists came and occupied Muslims countries and you say: peace; Zionists came and occupied Palestine and drove its people away and you say peace? And when I said you are cunning, I was not wrong.

What if a Palestinian or the Arab transgress on the rights of others? Is that
acceptable? Does it matter if the transgression is against the infidel?

The transgression is refused and is not justified against anyone, but you are turning the facts upside down; is it we who came and occupied your countries or you come and transgressed on us?

So are you saying that non-Muslims don't and shouldn't have
the same privilege and rights as Muslims?

People in the time of the Mahdi will almost become monotheists believing in the Quran in addition to their belief in the Ten Commandments (and the original Torah and Gospel)

The same privilege and rights as the Sunni or the Shiite? The
privilege and rights as a Sunni in Iran, or privilege and rights
as a Shiite in Saudi Arabia?

The Mahdi will abolish the sectarian divisions and the falsehood religions. And will judge people with the Quran and the devotion to God alone.

What are you talking about being saved from? Being saved
currently or in an afterlife? Your words have peaked my
interest. It's good to hear your words, and not this other
fellows in another 'copy & paste' disaster.

I will not tell you any words other than the words of the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, so go to my post and read it carefully and see the link.

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You will die trying because you are not loved by God. You have already proven to him that you are wicked, And he will annihilate you at the first chance once you show your wickedness again. You already have been warned by God. I do not think he will be as kind and forgiving to your people this time.

Has God revealed this to you, or has Satan suggested it to you?

So if God dislikes me, I will certainly lose and perish; but if He forgives me and show mercy to me as do I pray Him and hope then none can prevent Him from guiding me and showing favor to me.

The same was what your ancestors object to Prophet Mohammed; they said: how can God send anyone else than ourselves?

But God favors anyone with His favor and none can object to Him:

Quran 57: 29, which means:
[Then God – be glorified – addressed the Muslims and said:]
29. [We have shifted the revelation from Jews, giving it to you: the Arab; because of their disbelief, stubbornness and association];
so that [Jews:] the people of the Book may know not [anything of the revelation, from now on,]
[and they should know] that they have no control over anything of God's bounty [so as to prevent the revelation from reaching the Arab],
and that the bounty [of sending the revelation down] is [entirely] by the hand of God; He gives it to whomsoever [of His servants] He will;
and God is of abounding bounty [to His prophets and messengers, by sending the revelation onto them.]

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 

[Angstrom]

You will perish this I say in complete certainty.

And this is why. because he will understand , you did not understand the lesson he seeks for you to learn.

Hell awaits impatiently, your arrival

 

[selfsame]

Quran 23: 71, which means:
( And if [God:] the Just had followed their desires [about the intercession], surely the heavens and the earth and whosoever [living being] is therein would have been corrupted. a

Actually, We have brought them [the Quran b, which is] their 'admonition', but they have become averse from their 'admonition' c.
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a So ‘the Truth’ or ‘the Just’ is God; and ‘their desires’ are about the intercession which they ascribed to the angels, and said: “They intercede for us before God, so God will give us what we want by means of their intercession.”
So God denied their words, and said: Had God the Just followed their desires: to give them what they want by means of the intercession of the angels and other prophets, then the planets with all the living beings on them would have been corrupted.

That is because people are different among themselves according to the difference in their opinions, minds and demands; so that each one of them asks of God a sentence against his opponent, and everyone of them wants to be the king and president of his country;

therefore, if God had given them their requests, then the planets and all their inhabitants would have corrupted because of the opposition and dissension among people.

For this reason, God does not accept the intercession of any angel or prophet about that, lest the order and harmony may be disordered and life may be distorted.

b It means: the Quran is their admonition which will remove their illusions and expose the truth to them.

c It means: They become averse from the Quran.


The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 

[Ron in Regina]

What religion of peace? The peace is for the peaceful. What a fallacy: Imperialists came and occupied Muslims countries and you say: peace; Zionists came and occupied Palestine and drove its people away and you say peace? And when I said you are cunning, I was not wrong.

Like all those Belgians, in Belgium, deserving to be blown up? Or the
Parisians, in Paris? The Spaniards in Spain? Americans & others on
911? Religion of peace indeed? Who are the peaceful?

The transgression is refused and is not justified against anyone, but you are turning the facts upside down; is it we who came and occupied your countries or you come and transgressed on us?

A transgression like being beheaded? Here's an upside down
question to answer with an upside down fact. When was the
last time a Jew, or Atheist, or Christian, or non-Muslim beheaded
a Muslim?

The Mahdi will abolish the sectarian divisions and the falsehood religions. And will judge people with the Quran and the devotion to God alone.

So which are the falsehood religions? You've alluded to this
but never seem to have the courage to list them. Do you now?

Of coarse to you the Jews must be a falsehood, like the Christians
and any other religion except your own....but what is your religion?

Should Abu Bakr or Ali have been Muhammad's successor? You're
here to recruit, but to what? God forbid you recruit someone to the
path not of your choosing by accident.

I will not tell you any words other than the words of the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, so go to my post and read it carefully and see the link.

Your call. Just when you seemed to have found the courage
not to hide behind Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly's skirt, you
turn tail? Without a lifetimes brainwashing indoctrination to
swallow Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly's interpretations
without question or independent thought, his words are
of less than no interest. You're words would have been
interesting if you where not so afraid to voice them...

If you speak, I may read your words. If you are only regurgitating
the interpretation of Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly without any
independent thought, I couldn't be bothered. If I wanted to read
his words, I'd go look for them and cut out your parroting of
them. If I want to observe a puppet, I'll watch the Muppets.

 

[selfsame]

Like all those Belgians, in Belgium, deserving to be blown up? Or the
Parisians, in Paris? The Spaniards in Spain? Americans & others on
911? Religion of peace indeed? Who are the peaceful?

A transgression like being beheaded? Here's an upside down
question to answer with an upside down fact. When was the
last time a Jew, or Atheist, or Christian, or non-Muslim beheaded
a Muslim?

I don't agree about such works.
But you should not be superficial, and should know if you are fair, who is the true criminal, the true criminal are the Zionists who kill people by the hands of some corrupt Muslims in order to distort the picture of Muslims and to instigate the West against them and so that the West will be to the side of Zionists:
(specially for their next course: the demolishing of the Aqsa Mosque and the expansion of their state and the driving of what remained of Palestinians out of Palestine.)

So which are the falsehood religions? You've alluded to this
but never seem to have the courage to list them. Do you now?
Of coarse to you the Jews must be a falsehood, like the Christians
and any other religion except your own....but what is your religion?

The falsehood religions are the religions of the association with God like the idolatry, which is in contrary to the First Commandment.

Should Abu Bakr or Ali have been Muhammad's successor? You're
here to recruit, but to what? God forbid you recruit someone to the
path not of your choosing by accident.

Do you want to divide Muslims by saying such words?
Muslims should follow the Quran and the 'exclusive devotion to God alone'.

Your call. Just when you seemed to have found the courage
not to hide behind Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly's skirt, you
turn tail? Without a lifetimes brainwashing indoctrination to
swallow Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly's interpretations
without question or independent thought, his words are
of less than no interest. You're words would have been
interesting if you where not so afraid to voice them...

These are only bubbling or barking according to your avatar.

If you speak, I may read your words. If you are only regurgitating
the interpretation of Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly without any
independent thought, I couldn't be bothered. If I wanted to read
his words, I'd go look for them and cut out your parroting of
them. If I want to observe a puppet, I'll watch the Muppets.

I believe in the word of God in the Quran and the inspired interpretation also as a revelation from God, and I speak according to what I believe, so don't bother yourself like a puppet or the muppets.

 

[Ludlow]

You will perish this I say in complete certainty.

And this is why. because he will understand , you did not understand the lesson he seeks for you to learn.

Hell awaits impatiently, your arrival

Go sand a board ya damn phony.