Repealing the Death Tax

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Republicans in Congress strike another blow for freedom!

By Dana Milbank Opinion writer April 14

Give credit to Republicans in Congress.

They’ve discovered, belatedly, that income inequality is a problem, and they’re no longer proposing to give tax breaks to the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. Now they are proposing to give tax breaks to the wealthiest two-tenths of 1 percent of Americans.



On Tuesday afternoon, the House Rules Committee took up H.R. 1105, the “Death Tax Repeal Act of 2015,” with plans to bring it to a vote on the chamber floor Wednesday — Tax Day. It is an extraordinarily candid expression of the majority’s priorities: A tax cut costing the treasury $269 billion over a decade that would exclusively benefit individuals with wealth of more than $5.4 million and couples with wealth of more than $10.9 million.



That’s a tax break for only the 5,500 wealthiest households in the country each year, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. Of those, the 318 wealthiest estates each year — those worth $50 million or more — would see an average windfall of $20 million each, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.



And this at a time when the gap between rich and poor is already worse than it has been since the Great Depression? Never in the history of plutocracy has so much been given away to so few who need it so little.



This is the ultimate perversion of the tea party movement, which began as a populist revolt in 2009 but has since been hijacked by wealthy and corporate interests. The estate tax has been part of American law in some form since 1797, according to the advocacy group Americans for Tax Fairness, a shield against the sort of permanent aristocracy our founders fought to rid themselves of.



Republicans push for a permanent aristocracy - The Washington Post

Don't pay the outraged tone no mind, Milbank is a whining liberal (with a six-figure salary). The important thing is that they're poised to knock out the death tax.
 

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I've never been clear on this, when they say 'death tax' in the US that really means the inheritance is taxed in the hands of the beneficiary, correct? Does this mean then that the estate is not taxed or is this a double taxation issue? Here, the estate is taxed and inherited money is after tax.
 

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I've never been clear on this, when they say 'death tax' in the US that really means the inheritance is taxed in the hands of the beneficiary, correct? Does this mean then that the estate is not taxed or is this a double taxation issue? Here, the estate is taxed and inherited money is after tax.
The formal name is "estate tax." It means that when you die, if your estate is valued at over $5.4 million ($10.9 million for couples), it will be taxed at varying rates. It works the same way as you specify: the estate is taxed and then the heirs receive what's left after the government gets its nick. About 15 years ago, the cutoff was $675,000, but the cries of the poor, starving people was heard by a benevolent and loving Congress, who raised it as above.

As to double taxation, it is a term without meaning, except to get folks all outraged and yelling. Everybody pays double tax. Your income is taxed, and then you pay GST on anything you buy with the money left after the income tax. How is that not "double taxation?"
 

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The formal name is "estate tax." It means that when you die, if your estate is valued at over $5.4 million ($10.9 million for couples), it will be taxed at varying rates. It works the same way as you specify: the estate is taxed and then the heirs receive what's left after the government gets its nick. About 15 years ago, the cutoff was $675,000, but the cries of the poor, starving people was heard by a benevolent and loving Congress, who raised it as above.

So it's not any different than here, rates and specific rules notwithstanding.

As to double taxation, it is a term without meaning, except to get folks all outraged and yelling. Everybody pays double tax. Your income is taxed, and then you pay GST on anything you buy with the money left after the income tax. How is that not "double taxation?"
Technically I suppose that's true but it is usually meant more in terms of being taxed twice for the exact same income. What I was referring to was whether it was taxed as part of the estate and then again as beneficiary income. A consumption tax is only paid when something is consumed, granted very hard to get by in life without consuming anything but still, it's a choice to consume and therefore to pay the tax.
 

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So it's not any different than here, rates and specific rules notwithstanding.

Technically I suppose that's true but it is usually meant more in terms of being taxed twice for the exact same income. What I was referring to was whether it was taxed as part of the estate and then again as beneficiary income. A consumption tax is only paid when something is consumed, granted very hard to get by in life without consuming anything but still, it's a choice to consume and therefore to pay the tax.
Precisely. If we can draw a hair-fine distinction between a tax you are required by law to pay, and a tax that you pay only because you "choose" not to die of starvation and exposure, we can howl "double taxation!" and raise the banner of righteous indignation.

Yippee.
 

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Precisely. If we can draw a hair-fine distinction between a tax you are required by law to pay, and a tax that you pay only because you "choose" not to die of starvation and exposure, we can howl "double taxation!" and raise the banner of righteous indignation.

Yippee.

LMAO, Hey I said it was difficult, what more do you want? Besides which, not everything has GST applied, food doesn't (unless it's prepared in a restaurant) and neither does residential rent, so technically speaking no one would starve or die from exposure just to avoid paying it.