Kathleen Wynne, Poverty Skank

[damngrumpy]

What is news? News is a story that is of value to a great number of people to make
them aware or who have been impacted by an event. If this was across an entire
province it might be news. If it happened at one clinic and it affected a small number
of people it is not news in the main sense but it could be in a secondary story.
The Sun will look for things they can scream about so even if it is news the main
news outlets will ignore it. The current wave of right wing hysteria and created a left
wing hysteria to match. The result polarization and nothing happens and young
people turn to entertainment news cause at least something is happening.
I say right wing hysteria cause it started in the mid to late nineties with the so called
moral majority and it keeps changing costumes but its the same old act.
At some point someone will have to have a serious and genuine talk with someone
to begin to bring reality back to politics the media and society in general

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

If Rob Ford was giving away these grocery coupons, the same people who are saying 'its right wing hystarea' or 'its not news' would be screaming bloody murder. Its not news if it goes with your political leaning. Uncle Katty can do no wrong if you are a Lieberal.

And I am not sure what real media you are refering. We have 2 papers here in Toronto. The Sun which tends to lean right and put sexy girls on page 3. And a tabloid called the Star which graces the front pages with pictures of a smiling Justine Trudeau regularly when they can't find anything interesting in Rob Ford's trash.

 

[BornRuff]

If Rob Ford was giving away these grocery coupons, the same people who are saying 'its right wing hystarea' or 'its not news' would be screaming bloody murder. Its not news if it goes with your political leaning. Uncle Katty can do no wrong if you are a Lieberal.

And I am not sure what real media you are refering. We have 2 papers here in Toronto. The Sun which tends to lean right and put sexy girls on page 3. And a tabloid called the Star which graces the front pages with pictures of a smiling Justine Trudeau regularly when they can't find anything interesting in Rob Ford's trash.

You gotta get your facts straight. The Sun is literally a tabloid.

The article posted here is also a pretty clear example that the problems with "The Sun" are not about their political leanings. Filling a "news" story with so much opinion from the journalist is simply bad journalism. Opinion pieces and news are two different things.

 

[mentalfloss]

Actually it was the right who threw up more of a stink about Ford's bribery efforts. They were the ones that tried desperately to repackage it as a charitable Xmas gift even though he's been seen trying to brainwash kids in school hallways on multiple occasions.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

You gotta get your facts straight. The Sun is literally a tabloid.

True, but I was refering to the connotation usually refered to the National Enquireror and other such papers with journalistic integrity at a level just above that of the Toronto Star.

The article posted here is also a pretty clear example that the problems with "The Sun" are not about their political leanings. Filling a "news" story with so much opinion from the journalist is simply bad journalism. Opinion pieces and news are two different things.

I haven't seen a 'news' piece that isn't a collection of opinions. Some are more clever at hiding that. But usually they go out and inverview 5000 people. Find the 5 or 10 that support the point they are trying to make and piece together a story. Sometimes they mix in a fact or 2 if those facts don't detract from the point of view they are trying to present. It is more obvious to you because the opinions expressed don't match your own.

So why do you think this was not a political scam? I would tend to assert that everything she has done the last 2 weeks has been entirely political. It also has an added benifit of making people forget about the billions and billions her government has lost due to its political favours.

And I know you are dying to tell us how this is all Rob Ford's fault.

 

[BornRuff]

True, but I was refering to the connotation usually refered to the National Enquireror and other such papers with journalistic integrity at a level just above that of the Toronto Star.



I haven't seen a 'news' piece that isn't a collection of opinions. Some are more clever at hiding that. But usually they go out and inverview 5000 people. Find the 5 or 10 that support the point they are trying to make and piece together a story. Sometimes they mix in a fact or 2 if those facts don't detract from the point of view they are trying to present. It is more obvious to you because the opinions expressed don't match your own.

So why do you think this was not a political scam? I would tend to assert that everything she has done the last 2 weeks has been entirely political. It also has an added benifit of making people forget about the billions and billions her government has lost due to its political favours.

And I know you are dying to tell us how this is all Rob Ford's fault.

It would be nice if the "journalist" who wrote this piece even bothered to do that. In this she literally just writes about her own opinion on the issue.

Here are some direct quotes from the article. These are not her quoting people she talked to, these are just her putting her opinion on the page.

"He said, and I agree, that this is another example of the Liberal Party campaigning on our dollar.

And it’s shameful."

"Frankly, I found the photo-op of her going door-to-door with baskets of food extremely distasteful."

"Now we look to Premier Mom to solve every problem."

"The gift cards should have gone to the working poor."

"Or the government should have used agencies that do this for a living — like the Salvation Army or Daily Bread Food Bank — to deliver the help."

"Only a Liberal government could turn peaceable citizens into marauding hordes."

"How disgusting is it to watch people scrambling over each other for cash? Next time, let’s make it truly entertaining and have them wrestle in Jell-O.

Then again, if the government were really smart they’d give out LCBO gift cards.

I’d like to see an accounting at the end of this. I’m sure those stores can track what was bought with the gift cards. I want to know if they paid for cigarettes. Or makeup.

Where’s Piggy when you need him?"

How can you possible argue that this belongs anywhere but the opinion section? What Christina Blizzard thinks about this story isn't news.

Food gift card campaign thrown together to make Wynne look good | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

 

[mentalfloss]

Articles are just a collection of words.

It doesn't matter what order those words are placed on the page or if they even make any sense. Sun readers just need 'I hate liberal' sprinkled somewhere in there and you have a front page story.

 

[Locutus]

Changes nothing about the facts of the story. Don't get all mad again. :lol:

 

[BornRuff]

Changes nothing about the facts of the story. Don't get all mad again. :lol:

We are talking about the quality of the reporting.

 

[Locutus]

You are.

 

[BornRuff]

You are.

And you were commenting on what we were talking about, no?

 

[mentalfloss]

And you were commenting on what we were talking about, no?

He lost a point so he's going somewhere else.

 

[Locutus]

And you were commenting on what we were talking about, no?

You might be tangenting on 'quality'...I ain't. And it still changes nothing about the facts. No amount of deflection will change what wynne the pverty skank and his gang thought might be a good vote-buying opportunity but went haywire and quite sideways. ;-)

Page 1, 14 or classifieds. The story is the story slim. Yahoo, Sun or Star.

Ya falluh?

 

[Walter]

Ya falluh?

Could it be Robert Shaw?

 

[BornRuff]

You might be tangenting on 'quality'...I ain't. And it still changes nothing about the facts. No amount of deflection will change what wynne the pverty skank and his gang thought might be a good vote-buying opportunity but went haywire and quite sideways. ;-)

Page 1, 14 or classifieds. The story is the story slim. Yahoo, Sun or Star.

Ya falluh?

Lol, "pverty skank"?

You responded to my post about why this was filed under news. If you don't want to talk about that, don't respond to it.

If you take away all of the author's opinions from this article, there isn't much of a story there. What facts do they put forward?

 

[Locutus]

Could it be Robert Shaw?

Doyle Lonniman. :lol:

 

[SLM]

Doyle Lonniman. :lol:

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