B.C.'s Nisga'a becomes only First Nation to privatize land

[SLM]

You're having a bad day eh. You got spanked for calling BL a pedo, I made you look like a fool, and now you've taken over for me, lol.

Dude, serious advice, turn off the puter, go lay down.

I have no idea myself. I would think not, but how do you get around racial discrimination accusations for not selling to non band members? What if there's a default, can the bank foreclose on the property? I'm watching to see how this goes.

Why would you think there'd be no covenants in place? I'd think that would make the most sense. As far as potential foreclosure, I'd imagine you make the band a party to the mortgage, maybe with requirements to reserve some or all sales proceeds for a predetermined period of time. There's nothing saying the financing has to be from a traditional bank either . There's probably loads of potential for First Nations owned and operated financing endeavours.

I don't know, I think it's obvious that it wouldn't be a traditional property transaction/mortgage. All in all, I think it's a very positive movement in the right direction. Home ownership and the pride inherent in it could have a positive influence on the entire community.

 

[L Gilbert]

B.C.'s Nisga'a becomes only First Nation to privatize land

The northwestern B.C. First Nation has approved the privatization of 3 homes
CBC News

The Nisga'a Nation in northwestern British Columbia has become the only First Nation in Canada to let its people own tribal land privately.

The First Nation's land registrar says it has now signed off on the first three transfers of property to individuals in the Greenville area of the remote First Nation's land.

The community's leaders say that by allowing their people to own private property on tribal land, something most aboriginal people living on reserves can't do, they'll be able to get a loan, using land as collateral.

And they believe with those loans and opportunities will come new businesses and the prospect of prosperity.

The Nisga'a government's economic development officer Bert Mercer is set to be among the first to become a private property owner. He is proud to show off his home and the well-groomed grounds it stands upon.

"It's going to add value, an additional $30,000 maybe," he says.

But many critics have raised concerns about the privatization of First Nations lands, saying it's a step toward losing their lands, and perhaps toward assimilation.

I can't wait to see how this plays.

Interesting. Dad-in-law owns land that was probably in some treaty land at one time or other and he may have adopted some additional culture but still retains an awful lot of the old culture of his people. But I suppose the critics may be partially right about some being assimilated and some land being "lost".

 

[Locutus]

I think everyone should be afforded the opportunity to own their own land. I don't care who you are.

 

[taxslave]

I hear that banks could be involved and there will be the same move here on the Island very soon. Some of my family are involved.

Sechelt has been working on this for some time as well. My understanding from people I know there is that the potential of non band members being able to purchase the houses later on is the stumbling block. No idea where it stands at this point.

 

[CDNBear]

Why would you think there'd be no covenants in place?

I was referring to the non native possession of native land.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Why not just subdivide all the reserves so everyone gets a piece. Register it all with land title and then it can be sold to anyone anytime by the person who owns it. That way every member gets their piece and we can do away with reserves and all the issues that surround them.

 

[CDNBear]

Why not just subdivide all the reserves so everyone gets a piece. Register it all with land title and then it can be sold to anyone anytime by the person who owns it. That way every member gets their piece and we can do away with reserves and all the issues that surround them.

Because not everyone is keen on your genocidal utopia.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Because not everyone is keen on your genocidal utopia.

I offer a simple and easy solution. Nothing to do with genocide d ickwad. Give all the natives their share so they can keep or sell it on the open market.

 

[CDNBear]

Nothing to do with genocide d ickwad.

Weren't you already warned about your silly behavior?

The utopia where you're rid of us welfare injins, comes only with the practice of genocide.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Weren't you already warned about your silly behavior?

The utopia where you're rid of us welfare injins, comes only with the practice of genocide.

Uh huh. Giving each of you a free plot of land is genocide. You lost it. Your too wrapped up in being a victim. You want to remain a victim so you have an excuse for your pathetic life. Stay pathetic, keep all your people pathetic, I don't care as long as you keep your hands out of my wallet.

 

[CDNBear]

Uh huh. Giving each of you a free plot of land is genocide. You lost it. Your too wrapped up in being a victim. You want to remain a victim so you ha e an excuse for your pathetic life. Stay pathetic, keep all yohr peoe pathetic, I don't care as long as you keep your hands out of my wallet.

I'm not talking about land, I'm talking about what you have stated and what you insinuated would happen, and what you want to happen...

I know all that will likely be far to much for you to grasp, especially all at once. So why don't you take some time and mull it over before you look foolish again.

BTW: Please don't embarrass yourself again in the future, by pointing out spelling errors. How absurd it makes you look at that post, is almost to much for my bladder to bear.

 

[bill barilko]

Maybe if homeowners took charge on those godawul rathole reserves then the youth in those place would stop migrating to the cities-something we see a lot of here.

Of course in cities it's a lot easier to access services that allow moochers to act the victim.

 

[CDNBear]

Maybe if homeowners took charge on those godawul rathole reserves then the youth in those place would stop migrating to the cities-something we see a lot of here.

Of course in cities it's a lot easier to access services that allow moochers to act the victim.

Sorry Billy Bob, we can't all be millionaire salmon poachers like you.

 

[taxslave]

Sorry Billy Bob, we can't all be millionaire salmon poachers like you.

Well we probably could but most of us have ethics.

 

[PoliticalNick]

I'm not talking about land, I'm talking about what you have stated and what you insinuated would happen, and what you want to happen...

I know all that will likely be far to much for you to grasp, especially all at once. So why don't you take some time and mull it over before you look foolish again.

BTW: Please don't embarrass yourself again in the future, by pointing out spelling errors. How absurd it makes you look at that post, is almost to much for my bladder to bear.

Well you're an idiot. The thread is about land. I'm talking about land. Everyone in this thread is talking about land. Well everyone except you. :roll: Do yourself a favor and go wherever you are supposed to go to be the big victim you sooo need to be. Let the rest of us actually have a discussion.

 

[SLM]

Well we probably could but most of us have ethics.

Most of us.

 

[CDNBear]

Well you're an idiot.

Who has managed to poke giant holes 99% of the absurdity you've posted.

Please don't let what that says about you, get you down.

The thread is about land. I'm talking about land. Everyone in this thread is talking about land. Well everyone except you.

Ummm, just to refresh your limited memory...

That way every member gets their piece and we can do away with reserves and all the issues that surround them.

I would love to say I hate embarrassing you, but I don't really.

Let the rest of us actually have a discussion.

You aren't capable of discussion, you lack the fundamental basics.

 

[bill barilko]

This is germane to the situation-posted by YT on CBC

Here in Vancouver I see more and more young people who've moved from the reserves looking for a better life-but few find it.

They're poorly equipped to work a day to day job especially the awful grind in the sort of positions they're qualified for like entry level retail or labouring.

So they drift to the margins of society thereto remain for life.

At the same time I don't think we owe these people anything-if they don't make it it's their fault- look @ all the immigrants coming here who do succeed they had at least as many barriers to deal with

 

[CDNBear]

At the same time I don't think we owe these people anything-if they don't make it it's their fault- look @ all the immigrants coming here who do succeed they had at least as many barriers to deal with

Not an excuse, but you'd have to ignore the fact that immigrants have to have a bank roll and a higher education to immigrate here. Refugees are led by the hand until they're settled, with an umbilical cord to govt services, sometimes forever.

I know that interferes with peoples preconceived notions and bigotries, but there it is.

If for any reasons you want to argue my assertion, feel free to peruse the Federal govts page on immigrating to Canada, or refugee claimant services.

 

[taxslave]

This is germane to the situation-posted by YT on CBC

REmind me to show this to the two journeyman native carpenters I worked with for the last 8 months. Both live in the Vancouver area although their native lands are elsewhere.