Royal Bank not very Canadian

Machjo

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It sure sounds that way since from a logical standpoint it will do zero except cause more problems for lower income and already marginalized peoples.

That's why I proposed I'd support higher taxes for universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed, since these would be efficient ways of redistributing wealth without insulting the unemployed by handouts.
 

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Did you not understand the implication of a query here...


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I thought I did that by posting the treason definition in Canada and saying that governments are exempt but as far as I am concerned they shouldn't be did you not understand that CDNBear?
 

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That's why I proposed I'd support higher taxes for universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed, since these would be efficient ways of redistributing wealth without insulting the unemployed by handouts.
Retraining isn't all it's cracked up to be...I've been that route Machjo, if you want to know anything about it just ask me. I've also worked in employment placement after I "retrained". A lot of money has been wasted on retraining and still is being wasted on retraining. The colleges use it as a money grab.
 

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That's why I proposed I'd support higher taxes for universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed, since these would be efficient ways of redistributing wealth without insulting the unemployed by handouts.

universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed

I thought those are handouts too
 

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That's why I proposed I'd support higher taxes for universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed, since these would be efficient ways of redistributing wealth without insulting the unemployed by handouts.

I would propose using the taxes they already collect, which are already excessive IMO, in a more efficient manner aimed at serving the citizens with essential services like education. Instead they use them inefficiently and have people like yourself promoting an even higher taxation rate to supply the services they are supposed to provide in the first place. I would say your logic is off on this subject.
 

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I thought I did that by posting the treason definition in Canada and saying that governments are exempt but as far as I am concerned they shouldn't be did you not understand that CDNBear?
Oh I understood the idiotic claims you made.

You just failed to back it, and the previous one, up with anything relevant or intelligent.

Which of course is nothing surprising.

 

Machjo

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I would propose using the taxes they already collect, which are already excessive IMO, in a more efficient manner aimed at serving the citizens with essential services like education. Instead they use them inefficiently and have people like yourself promoting an even higher taxation rate to supply the services they are supposed to provide in the first place. I would say your logic is off on this subject.

Or if we can make government more efficient, so much the better. Politically and constitutionally that could be challenging thanks to our wonderful Charter.
 

Sal

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I thought those are handouts too
they are...and when Ontario's economy bottomed out the government used them as a means to keep people from needing to job hunt by keeping them in school. Often times in useless retraining programs that got them no where.
 

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Or if we can make government more efficient, so much the better. Politically and constitutionally that could be challenging thanks to our wonderful Charter.

How so?

It is very easy to make the govt do as we please if everybody would bother to give it the correct thought and attention. I am constantly disappointed (though no longer surprised) by the mentality that is bred into the citizens that the govt controls us when in reality, according to the constitution and charter, we control the govt. The simple solution is a show of solidarity by the general populace. 10-20 million letters, emails & phone calls to our representatives with clear expression that if they do not prioritize essential services and a balanced budget they will not be re-elected would do the trick in a few days. Unfortunately the greater portion of the citizenry has been led to believe we do not make any difference and therefore they show too much apathy toward effecting any positive change in our govt or the system itself.
 

CDNBear

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How so?

It is very easy to make the govt do as we please if everybody would bother to give it the correct thought and attention. I am constantly disappointed (though no longer surprised) by the mentality that is bred into the citizens that the govt controls us when in reality, according to the constitution and charter, we control the govt. The simple solution is a show of solidarity by the general populace. 10-20 million letters, emails & phone calls to our representatives with clear expression that if they do not prioritize essential services and a balanced budget they will not be re-elected would do the trick in a few days. Unfortunately the greater portion of the citizenry has been led to believe we do not make any difference and therefore they show too much apathy toward effecting any positive change in our govt or the system itself.
Ya, that only works if it falls within the law, or if we throw out he rule of law that protects aspects of society from gun toting bigots.

Good of you to admit your failures.

Now work on them.
 

Machjo

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How so?

It is very easy to make the govt do as we please if everybody would bother to give it the correct thought and attention. I am constantly disappointed (though no longer surprised) by the mentality that is bred into the citizens that the govt controls us when in reality, according to the constitution and charter, we control the govt. The simple solution is a show of solidarity by the general populace. 10-20 million letters, emails & phone calls to our representatives with clear expression that if they do not prioritize essential services and a balanced budget they will not be re-elected would do the trick in a few days. Unfortunately the greater portion of the citizenry has been led to believe we do not make any difference and therefore they show too much apathy toward effecting any positive change in our govt or the system itself.

I can agree with you on that.
 

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How so?

It is very easy to make the govt do as we please if everybody would bother to give it the correct thought and attention. I am constantly disappointed (though no longer surprised) by the mentality that is bred into the citizens that the govt controls us when in reality, according to the constitution and charter, we control the govt. The simple solution is a show of solidarity by the general populace. 10-20 million letters, emails & phone calls to our representatives with clear expression that if they do not prioritize essential services and a balanced budget they will not be re-elected would do the trick in a few days. Unfortunately the greater portion of the citizenry has been led to believe we do not make any difference and therefore they show too much apathy toward effecting any positive change in our govt or the system itself.

This federal Conservative government can't read so letters and emails are useless to send. The only way to solve this unemployment crisis is for people to be more pro-active by creating more jobs in the area by buying more product made in the area and services and products made elsewhere should be boycotted for now. The Hundred Mile Diet is a good example of getting people to buy locally. This would motivate companies to set up businesses in the area and less unemployed creates less taxes overall and a better lifestyle.


Ya, that only works if it falls within the law, or if we throw out he rule of law that protects aspects of society from gun toting bigots.

Good of you to admit your failures.

Now work on them.

I shall be assimilated because resistance is futile
 

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Saw this yesterday and have been talking to Friends, six of them deal with RBC but not as of Monday.
No this is not the same thing as other companies at all. The foreign worker program has stipulations
to prevent this from happening. Foreign worker programs do not provide for people coming here to
learn the job and than go home and the division of the country transferred to that country. That is not
in compliance with the law at all. I have some knowledge of this as I was in an agriculture organization
that dealt with these issues and the regulations.
RBC could be in a lot of difficulty if the allegations are true.
These people are despicable at best. It is time we tied these action to the patriotism of the country.
Companies are either loyal to the nation of origin or they are not, that way we could begin to scale down
these people shipping jobs overseas. And yes to I am willing to pay a fair price for a fair wage industry.
Free Trade deals with every nation is not in our long term interests at all, short term yes long term no,
therefore its time to say no more.
 

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Dec,10, 1985: Pres Reagan officially informs Congress about his intention to negotiate a free trade agreement with Canada under the authority of trade promotion. Referred to as fast track, trade promotion authority is an accelerated legislative procedure which obliges the House of Reps and the Senate to decide within 90 days whether or not to establish a trade trade unit. No amendments are permitted.

December 17, 1992: Official signing of NAFTA by PM Brian Mulroney,Pres Bush, and Mex Pres Salinas, subject to its final approval by the federal Parliaments of the three countries.

December 1993: Newly elected Canadian PM Jean Chretien signs NAFTA without changes, breaking his promise to renegotiate NAFTA. Pres Bill Clinton signs NAFTA for the U.S.

2001: Robert Pastor's 2001 book "Toward a North American Community" is published. The book calls for the creation of a North American Union (NAU).

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