Mexico's President-Elect: Legalization Should Be Part of Drug Strategy Debate

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And other leaders in Latin America like Uruguay too. About time. Hello, it's not working Harper and Obama, they are both warriers in drug arms here. Prohibition created the mafia, drug wars created the cartels. Such a law abiding citizenry we have.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/07/mexican-president-elect.html



July 3, 2012 at 4:38 PM EDT
Mexico's President-Elect: Legalization Should Be Part of Drug Strategy Debate

By: Margaret Warner



MEXICO CITY | The president-elect of Mexico, Enrique Pena Nieto, said Tuesday Mexico should have a debate about legalizing and regulating the sale of drugs here, an approach advocated by some other Latin American leaders to take marijuana sale profits out of the hands of the drug cartels.

While insisting he was not in favor of legalizing drugs himself, he said, "I'm in favor of opening a new debate in the strategy in the way we fight drug trafficking. It is quite clear that after several years of this fight against drug trafficking, we have more drug consumption, drug use and drug trafficking. That means we are not moving in the right direction. Things are not working."
"I'm not saying we should legalize," he repeated. "But we should debate in Congress, in the hemisphere and especially the U.S. should participate in this broad debate."

"So let the debate begin, but you're not taking a position yet?" I asked.
"That's right," he said.

The Obama administration has responded warily to such talk from its southern neighbors. Yet two weeks ago, the president of Uruguay sent just such a proposal to his legislature -- for the government to effectively become the sole seller of marijuana -- saying "the traditional [interdiction] approach hasn't worked" and "someone has to be the first" to try it.

On other points, though, Pena Nieto sent reassuring messages to Washington. He said his plans to refocus the drug war to reduce violence suffered by the Mexican people will not mean abandoning the pursuit of drug kingpins shipping vast quantities of drugs to the United States. Two weeks ago, at a House hearing, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., accused Pena Nieto of advocating "a reversion" to the old policies of "turning a blind eye to the cartels" as long as they weren't perpetrating the grisly violence.
Pena Nieto jumped at the chance to correct the record, saying, "I know there is a concern around this issue, in terms of assuming this adjustment sold mean not going after drug cartels involved in drug trafficking. No, absolutely not."

While saying he wants to intensify cooperation with the U.S. government on many fronts, he sent one strong zinger Washington's way. The issue: the Obama administration's failure to do anything major to stop the flood of U.S.-made assault weapons that have wreaked such deadly havoc in Mexico. "We have been insisting on getting the U.S. more involved in fighting arms control. Unfortunately, it has had no impact."

It's a message current Mexican President Felipe Calderon has been harping on. It seems clear President Obama is going to hear it from Mexico's new president as well.

Pena Nieto had more to say about allegations of voter fraud, the drug war and his ideas for economic reforms:
On allegations of voting fraud from opposition candidate Andres Manuel Obrador Lopez of the Party of the Democratic Revolution:

ENRIQUE PENA NIETO: I believe that in our country, fortunately, we have democratic institutions that are very solid and reliable. We have electoral tribunals which will be responsible for addressing these issues and attending to these complaints, the ones filed by candidate Lopez Obrador. I am convinced that it was a truly exemplary process where more than 50 million - over 50 million Mexicans participated with a difference of more than 3.2 million votes.

On refocusing the drug war:

ENRIQUE PENA NIETO: I will maintain the presence of a Mexican Army, and the Navy and police in the states of the Mexican Republic, where the problem of crime has increased. We will adjust the strategy so that we can focus on certain type of crimes, like kidnapping, homicide, extortion, which today, unfortunately, have worsened or increased, because we have a lot of impunity in some areas. The state's task is to achieve more efficiency, and to go back to the rule of law and enforce laws strictly in our country.

On controlling weapons trafficking from the United States:

ENRIQUE PENA NIETO: This is an issue that has been surrounded by a high level of debate. And we have insisting on getting the U.S. more involved in fighting arms control. Unfortunately it has had no impact. The problem has killed thousands of Mexicans, unfortunately. And it is an issue that, without a doubt, is unsolved yet. We have not seen a good level of efficiency by the U.S. in terms of better controlling arms trafficking - I'm talking about high-caliber weapons - into our country.

On economic reforms:

ENRIQUE PENA NIETO: I'm fully convinced that the PRI (his Institutional Revolutionary Party) -- on this effort to promote competitiveness, more credit, fighting monopolies and pushing the energy reform I'm committed to -- that the PRI will push it, will allow it to gain more social support. And that will also allow my political party to increase its capacity to push these initiatives. It is clear that in order to achieve this objective, we will have to reach agreements with our political forces to be able to push these reforms, to participate and become part of this effort to modernize our country.
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10 Reasons to legalise all drugs
comment from Transform: the campaign for effective drug policy



1 Address the real issues
For too long policy makers have used prohibition as a smoke screen to avoid addressing the social and economic factors that lead people to use drugs. Most illegal and legal drug use is recreational. Poverty and despair are at the root of most problematic drug use and it is only by addressing these underlying causes that we can hope to significantly decrease the number of problematic users.

2 Eliminate the criminal market place
The market for drugs is demand-led and millions of people demand illegal drugs. Making the production, supply and use of some drugs illegal creates a vacuum into which organised crime moves. The profits are worth billions of pounds. Legalisation forces organised crime from the drugs trade, starves them of income and enables us to regulate and control the market (i.e. prescription, licensing, laws on sales to minors, advertising regulations etc.)

3 Massively reduce crime
The price of illegal drugs is determined by a demand-led, unregulated market. Using illegal drugs is very expensive. This means that some dependent users resort to stealing to raise funds (accounting for 50% of UK property crime - estimated at £2 billion a year). Most of the violence associated with illegal drug dealing is caused by its illegality

Legalisation would enable us to regulate the market, determine a much lower price and remove users need to raise funds through crime. Our legal system would be freed up and our prison population dramatically reduced, saving billions. Because of the low price, cigarette smokers do not have to steal to support their habits. There is also no violence associated with the legal tobacco market.

4 Drug users are a majority

Recent research shows that nearly half of all 15-16 year olds have used an illegal drug. Up to one and a half million people use ecstasy every weekend. Amongst young people, illegal drug use is seen as normal. Intensifying the 'war on drugs' is not reducing demand. In Holland, where cannabis laws are far less harsh, drug usage is amongst the lowest in Europe.

Legalisation accepts that drug use is normal and that it is a social issue, not a criminal justice one. How we deal with it is up to all of us to decide.

In 1970 there were 9000 convictions or cautions for drug offences and 15% of young people had used an illegal drug. In 1995 the figures were 94 000 and 45%. Prohibition doesn't work.

5 Provide access to truthful information and education

A wealth of disinformation about drugs and drug use is given to us by ignorant and prejudiced policy-makers and media who peddle myths upon lies for their own ends. This creates many of the risks and dangers associated with drug use.

Legalisation would help us to disseminate open, honest and truthful information to users and non-users to help them to make decisions about whether and how to use. We could begin research again on presently illicit drugs to discover all their uses and effects - both positive and negative.

6 Make all drug use safer
Prohibition has led to the stigmatisation and marginalisation of drug users. Countries that operate ultra-prohibitionist policies have very high rates of HIV infection amongst injecting users. Hepatitis C rates amongst users in the UK are increasing substantially.

In the UK in the '80's clean needles for injecting users and safer sex education for young people were made available in response to fears of HIV. Harm reduction policies are in direct opposition to prohibitionist laws.

7 Restore our rights and responsibilities
Prohibition unnecessarily criminalises millions of otherwise law-abiding people. It removes the responsibility for distribution of drugs from policy makers and hands it over to unregulated, sometimes violent dealers.

Legalisation restores our right to use drugs responsibly to change the way we think and feel. It enables controls and regulations to be put in place to protect the vulnerable.

8 Race and Drugs
Black people are over ten times more likely to be imprisoned for drug offences than whites. Arrests for drug offences are notoriously discretionary allowing enforcement to easily target a particular ethnic group. Prohibition has fostered this stereotyping of black people.

Legalisation removes a whole set of laws that are used to disproportionately bring black people into contact with the criminal justice system. It would help to redress the over representation of black drug offenders in prison.

9 Global Implications
The illegal drugs market makes up 8% of all world trade (around £300 billion a year). Whole countries are run under the corrupting influence of drug cartels. Prohibition also enables developed countries to wield vast political power over producer nations under the auspices of drug control programmes.

Legalisation returns lost revenue to the legitimate taxed economy and removes some of the high-level corruption. It also removes a tool of political interference by foreign countries against producer nations.

10 Prohibition doesn't work
There is no evidence to show that prohibition is succeeding. The question we must ask ourselves is, "What are the benefits of criminalising any drug?" If, after examining all the available evidence, we find that the costs outweigh the benefits, then we must seek an alternative policy.

Legalisation is not a cure-all but it does allow us to address many of the problems associated with drug use, and those created by prohibition. The time has come for an effective and pragmatic drug policy.
 

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Ending prohibition ended bootlegging. While it did not end alcoholism, it certainly put an end to crimes related to illegal selling of alcohol, poisonings that came about when people drank bad liquor, and legalization raised billions in tax revenue. This is likely to happen if drug laws are reformed.
 

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Ending prohibition ended bootlegging. While it did not end alcoholism, it certainly put an end to crimes related to illegal selling of alcohol, poisonings that came about when people drank bad liquor, and legalization raised billions in tax revenue. This is likely to happen if drug laws are reformed.

And then this would revert the issue from a criminal justice problem (which Nixon incorrectly asserted it was when he started this nonsense) to a rehabilitation issue.
 

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All through the course of human history, we have had people try to end
everything from illegal drugs, booze and even prostitution and it failed.
We cannot legislate the social moral issues of the day. yes we can do
something about the criminal social morals such as child molestation
and so on because collectively we deem it to be a crime.
Most people don't see pot and some other drugs as a crime therefore
the law does not have the consent of the people and the cooperation
they need to enforce the law of adult consent.
 

gopher

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And then this would revert the issue from a criminal justice problem (which Nixon incorrectly asserted it was when he started this nonsense) to a rehabilitation issue.


The Salvation Army and many other charitable groups do much work in helping those in need of such assistance - this saves the government from having to spend tax dollars in helping those in need. The SA would also help drug addicts to recover, again, saving much in tax dollars and the prisons would have many people released into rehab where they belong.
 

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So Mexicans voted in a new crook-poster boy for the old PRI crooks-most of whom are still alive.

All that's needed now is for the right calls to be made to the right people in the Sinaloa Cartel and the money will start to flow-just like the Old Days.

Note that I speak Spanish and have lived in Mexico-Mexicans are wonderful people but they lie like rugs/are crooked as the day is long and their politicians are worse.