Father charged in son's spanking.

Status
Not open for further replies.

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
I said evidence (as in studies), not your opinion.

Anna, any evidence I give won’t convince you anyway, you would want to see it in a religious right website (American College of Pediatricians or Dr. Wilke’s website etc.). So why bother? Anyway, religious right enthusiastically supports the use of strap, the more, the better.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
So in your opinion, denying television to children is the same as forcibly kidnapping them and imprisoning them for several years (and presumably deserves the same punishment for the perpetrators). Fascinating.

I don't know if that is what she is saying but that is what I am saying. After all, you believe spanking a kid on the rear is the same as punching him in the face. Who said you are the only one that gets to use idiotic logic?
 

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
That's besides the point.

Anna, that is beside the point, really? Let me reproduce here what I said (which you claim is beside the point).

The problem is that the thwack on the ear with a finger, if the child gives you the bird or otherwise remains defiant, can easily morph into a punch that decks the child.

So presumably if routine spanking leads to serious beating, perhaps resulting in hospitalization of the child, it doesn't matter, that is beside the point, according to you. Oh, the lengths the supporters of the strap will go to prove their point.
 

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario
Anna, that is beside the point, really? Let me reproduce here what I said (which you claim is beside the point).

The problem is that the thwack on the ear with a finger, if the child gives you the bird or otherwise remains defiant, can easily morph into a punch that decks the child.

So presumably if routine spanking leads to serious beating, perhaps resulting in hospitalization of the child, it doesn't matter, that is beside the point, according to you. Oh, the lengths the supporters of the strap will go to prove their point.
My, my, your assumptions are wild aren't they. Is reality and sticking to facts beyond you?

Oh ya, I'm talking to joey...:lol:
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
The problem is that the thwack on the ear with a finger, if the child gives you the bird or otherwise remains defiant, can easily morph into a punch that decks the child.

The problem with having a drink is that one might enjoy it and have a few more. One can easily morph into an alcoholic. You must be turning into one of those right-wing bible thumpers that want to ban booze. You are probably a closet Harper supporter.
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
So in your opinion, denying television to children is the same as forcibly kidnapping them and imprisoning them for several years (and presumably deserves the same punishment for the perpetrators). Fascinating.
It's your "logic". You say hitting is hitting. I said psychological or emotional abuse is psychological or emotional abuse. But, no, you are ASSuming that is what my opinion is and you are ASSuming that I am the one that can't quantify it when YOU are the one that has the problem with quantifying issues. I merely pointed out that there are degrees of abuse. (That is quantifying, BTW).

So are you going to ask your Messiah to pass a law making denying children of television a criminal offense (with the same penalties as kidnapping and imprisoning somebody)? Harper is always eager to pass laws handing out stiffer and stiffer prison sentences to criminals. Law and order is the standard vote getter for conservatives, it is their staple.

perhaps Harper could put it in his election platform, for the upcoming election.
Sorry, I do not have a "messiah" and I have no idea what you are gibbering about.


Anna, so does that also mean that you would never deprive your children of television, because it will cause them psychological harm? Presumably you don’t have a problem with spanking, I assume that does no harm (according to you).
That is you putting words in my mouth. No, it doesn't mean that. Quit presuming and assuming things about me.
 

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
Removing privileges, like spankings, can range out of control and there have been cases of parents not allowing their children bathroom access, food, or water.

You are grasping at straws here karrie, desperately trying to equate removing of privileges with spanking (and somehow implying that removal of privileges is even worse than spanking.

Bathroom access, food and water are privileges? Only by your definition. Removal of privileges means exactly that, it does not mean starving the child for weeks or months (as you seem to imply).

The punishment I handed out to my son (he must eat cereal and not bagel) comes under the heading of removal of privileges. Or no TV for a week, or perhaps take away his play station, keep him home from that party he has been looking forward to etc.

But denial of food and water? Are you for real? Do you really believe that those who don’t spank their children deny them food and water? No wonder you have such set views, such strong animosity against those who don’t spank their children.

Where do you get such trash anyway, from religious right websites? I wouldn’t think even they would stoop so low as to claim that those who don’t spank their children deny them food and water.
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
I said evidence (as in studies), not your opinion.

Anna, any evidence I give won’t convince you anyway, you would want to see it in a religious right website (American College of Pediatricians or Dr. Wilke’s website etc.). So why bother? Anyway, religious right enthusiastically supports the use of strap, the more, the better.
Again, you are ASSuming you know what I accept or don't. I am not like you. I can accept studies that ANY qualified person(s) have done. Apparently, YOU can't. I don't care if Joe Psychologist is communist, fascist, right-wing, left-wing, green, or pink, evidence is evidence. You cannot support your position with any evidence, so therefore it is only your opinion.
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
Anna, that is beside the point, really? Let me reproduce here what I said (which you claim is beside the point).

The problem is that the thwack on the ear with a finger, if the child gives you the bird or otherwise remains defiant, can easily morph into a punch that decks the child.

So presumably if routine spanking leads to serious beating, perhaps resulting in hospitalization of the child, it doesn't matter, that is beside the point, according to you. Oh, the lengths the supporters of the strap will go to prove their point.
Why didn't you use my entire quote? You cherrypicked one of my posts to warp it to your view. You are as bad a troll as anyone else here, but you use a different method.
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
You are grasping at straws here karrie, desperately trying to equate removing of privileges with spanking (and somehow implying that removal of privileges is even worse than spanking.

Bathroom access, food and water are privileges? Only by your definition. Removal of privileges means exactly that, it does not mean starving the child for weeks or months (as you seem to imply).

The punishment I handed out to my son (he must eat cereal and not bagel) comes under the heading of removal of privileges. Or no TV for a week, or perhaps take away his play station, keep him home from that party he has been looking forward to etc.

But denial of food and water? Are you for real? Do you really believe that those who don’t spank their children deny them food and water? No wonder you have such set views, such strong animosity against those who don’t spank their children.

Where do you get such trash anyway, from religious right websites? I wouldn’t think even they would stoop so low as to claim that those who don’t spank their children deny them food and water.
You should be a speechwriter for some politician because you sure put a lot of spin on what other people say.
 

karrie

OogedyBoogedy
Jan 6, 2007
27,780
285
83
bliss
Funny, that's not as bad as the gibberish you keep coming up with.

thanks for bringing this post up Bear. I went back and clicked the post so I could see it, only to find that the meat of what I'd said was ignored, and just a snippet was cherry picked out of it. Neat.
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
The problem with having a drink is that one might enjoy it and have a few more. One can easily morph into an alcoholic. You must be turning into one of those right-wing bible thumpers that want to ban booze. You are probably a closet Harper supporter.
lmao
 

AnnaG

Hall of Fame Member
Jul 5, 2009
17,507
117
63
lol... sorry... you're no atheist at all... you've been declared religious. Take that!!!
Oh well. According to Merriam-Webster anyone that avidly holds a belief is religious. *blows a razzberry* I'm an agnostic anyway. lol
 
Status
Not open for further replies.