What Are the Consequences of Obama Failing?

SirJosephPorter

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Well I know that's not your real image of me because most of it contrasts significantly with some of my posts. For instance, I don't consider Bush to be one of the best presidents ever, as can be ascertained by the fact that I have on several occasions called him incompetant as Prez.

You're pretty close on my age though.:lol:

OK, I may have been exaggerating a bit when I said that you think Bush was the best president ever (I assume you regard Reagan as the best president ever), but you probably regard Bush as a much better president than Obama. And oyu probably held that opinion even before Obama took office.

Sure I am right about your age; your age does come through your posts. You do seem angry with the world, for electing Obama (in USA), for forcing conservatives to move to the center (in Canada) etc.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"If you don't play my way I'm going to take my ball and go home!":p

My parents have taught me that it is better to walk away from a fight rather than engage in a knock down, drag out duel to death. I have always found that advice useful. i am not afraid to walk away from a fight.
 

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AS I said earlier, not Republican, only a moderate conservative. I belong to no political party. And as usual, you distort my words into completely different meanings.

Extrafire, I have said it before, you are a Republican in spirit, it doesn’t matter if you actually are a Republican Party member (if you live in Canada, you probably aren’t).
And you are human, in spirit. So?

That's because, no matter what your chronological age is, you're immature.
If insulting others, putting down others in order to make oneself feel better is a sign of maturity, I am proud to be immature.
How can it be insulting if it's true; it's only observation.
You once asked wifey what was wrong with being a narcissist, which would seem to be an admission of sorts:
"Narcissists are very misleading. They are possessed of undeniable personal charm and, usually, of sparkling intellect. Other people tend to associate these traits with maturity, authority and responsibility. Yet, as far as narcissists go, this association is a grave mistake. The Dorian Grays of this world are eternal children (puer aeternus, Peter Pans), immature, puerile even, irresponsible, morally inconsistent (and in certain areas of life, morally non-existent). Narcissists actively encourage people to form expectations - only to disappoint and frustrate them later. They lack many adult skills and tend to rely on people around them to make up for these deficiencies." - Chapter 3, The Soul of a Narcissist, The State of the Art
You likely leave your temper tantrums off the forum for the most part.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Everybody is an armchair psychoanalyst, Gilbert.

You once asked wifey what was wrong with being a narcissist,

Say what? Where did I say that? That is something you just made up.

Narcissists are very misleading. They are possessed of undeniable personal charm and, usually, of sparkling intellect.

Are you calling me a narcissist, and implying that I have undeniable personal charm and sparkling intellect? Oh, you are making me blush.

You likely leave your temper tantrums off the forum for the most part.

Oh so you do agree with me when I say that I have never lost my temper in these forums? At least that is something.

Is this what they call damning somebody with praise?
 

SirJosephPorter

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That's because you are a coward. It's evident when you don't have the manhood to admit a mistake.

Gilbert, this is called baiting a hook, or baiting a trap. You obviously hope to get into a mud slinging, flaming match with me. Well, it is not going to work, I am too mature (or immature if you will) for that.
 

Extrafire

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AS I said earlier, not Republican, only a moderate conservative. I belong to no political party. And as usual, you distort my words into completely different meanings.

Extrafire, I have said it before, you are a Republican in spirit, it doesn’t matter if you actually are a Republican Party member (if you live in Canada, you probably aren’t).
You've said a lot of things about me, the way I think etc. and I've corrected you on them a number of times, yet you continue to spout the same nonesense. Give it up already.

That's because, no matter what your chronological age is, you're immature.

If insulting others, putting down others in order to make oneself feel better is a sign of maturity, I am proud to be immature.
Insulting others, putting down others in order to make oneself feel better is something you do quite often yourself.
 

Extrafire

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OK, I may have been exaggerating a bit when I said that you think Bush was the best president ever (I assume you regard Reagan as the best president ever), but you probably regard Bush as a much better president than Obama. And oyu probably held that opinion even before Obama took office.
THere you go, putting words in my mouth again. What's the matter, can't win an argument unless it's strawman?

I didn't consider Reagan to be a good prez at the time but looking back now I do. Best? No. Bush better than Obama? Too soon to tell. I need another 3 years or so before I can answer that one.
Sure I am right about your age; your age does come through your posts.
Ah, you see what I mean about impressions of the poster from their words. But I didn't say you were right about my age, I said you were close. Your guess was a 2 decade span. That gives you a random chance of 1 in 3 of being right. Narrow your guess down to 5 year span and I'll let you know.

You do seem angry with the world, for electing Obama (in USA), for forcing conservatives to move to the center (in Canada) etc.
I don't recall posting anything about conservatives in Canada. And I'm not at all angry at the world. I will admit to being angry about the Global Warming Lunacy sweeping the world.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Ah, you see what I mean about impressions of the poster from their words. But I didn't say you were right about my age, I said you were close. Your guess was a 2 decade span. That gives you a random chance of 1 in 3 of being right. Narrow your guess down to 5 year span and I'll let you know.

1 chance in 3, how do you figure that, Extrafire? For all I know, you could be anywhere between 10 and 100 years old, a span of 90 years. From that, I narrowed it down to 20 years; I had less than 1 chance in 4 of being right (and not 1 chance in 3 as you claim).

In view of that, I think that was a pretty good educated guess. I think I will stick with that.
 

Extrafire

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Ah, you see what I mean about impressions of the poster from their words. But I didn't say you were right about my age, I said you were close. Your guess was a 2 decade span. That gives you a random chance of 1 in 3 of being right. Narrow your guess down to 5 year span and I'll let you know.

1 chance in 3, how do you figure that, Extrafire? For all I know, you could be anywhere between 10 and 100 years old, a span of 90 years. From that, I narrowed it down to 20 years; I had less than 1 chance in 4 of being right (and not 1 chance in 3 as you claim).

In view of that, I think that was a pretty good educated guess. I think I will stick with that.
I think it's a safe bet that the vast majority of posters in online forums such as this are between the ages of 20 and 80, which leaves 60 years, of which a 20 year guess has a 1 in 3 chance of being correct. Kind of like picking a number between 1 and 3. Considering that I've occasionally mentioned some of my experiences living through previous eras, it isn't really much of a guess at all to pick the two decades that you did.

But why not make a guess of a 5 year span? You have nothing to lose and if you do I'll reveal my exact age.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I think it's a safe bet that the vast majority of posters in online forums such as this are between the ages of 20 and 80

That would be the most likely range, Extrafire. However, you cannot rule out a 10 year old pretending to be an adult. He may think it is quite a fun to fool all the adults in the forum. Or perhaps a spry, healthy 100 years old who still has his wits about to participate here.

But why not make a guess of a 5 year span? You have nothing to lose and if you do I'll reveal my exact age.

OK, here gores. 65 to 70.
 

AnnaG

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Everybody is an armchair psychoanalyst, Gilbert.

You once asked wifey what was wrong with being a narcissist,

Say what? Where did I say that? That is something you just made up.
Convenient loss of memory?
Sorry, you said that to me and I replied, "If you don't know, then you need more help than I can give you".
Fortunately for you, the archives containing your posts only go back 3 weeks so I can't find the post.

Narcissists are very misleading. They are possessed of undeniable personal charm and, usually, of sparkling intellect.
Are you calling me a narcissist, and implying that I have undeniable personal charm and sparkling intellect? Oh, you are making me blush.
It said usually. I guess you missed that. Besides, he didn't say that, he simply quoted it from a source. Get a grip.

You likely leave your temper tantrums off the forum for the most part.
Oh so you do agree with me when I say that I have never lost my temper in these forums? At least that is something.

Is this what they call damning somebody with praise?
No, it isn't. I think you missed the "for the most part" bit. You sure like to insert your words into others' comments, don't you? And not having tantrums here does not mean you don't have them at all anyway.
But he's right, you are too cowardly and narcissistic to admit being wrong.
 

AnnaG

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Gilbert, this is called baiting a hook, or baiting a trap. You obviously hope to get into a mud slinging, flaming match with me. Well, it is not going to work, I am too mature (or immature if you will) for that.
So? You keep sidetracking threads. You aren't perfect either. All he was doing was mentioning his observations. And as Extrafire said, you supply enough of your own trolling by putting your words into others' mouths, twisting what they say, etc.
 

AnnaG

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Anyway, if the economy doesn't improve by the time Obama is done his stint as president, he will be blamed for the economy by idiots, the American public will probably vote in a Rep, and the lessons of it all will be forgotten in a couple decades, so the fools will again be doomed to repeat unpleasant history.
 

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"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
- Cicero - 55 BC