Asian grade-school students rule math, science: study
at least our post secondary education is still top notch :-?
at least our post secondary education is still top notch :-?
Common Knowledge becomes fact: Asian kids are smart in math/science
- Thread starter Mongul
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Yes, that is very true.
I clan vouch for this in the world of sports. My grandson, who is now in college on a golf scholarship, played junior golf for years, all over b.c., mostly on the lower
mainland. I attended many of his tournaments, as a driver, chaperone. Many
asian kids in golf, parents always with them, and very very serious. They treated
the golf as though it is a school subject. Stood over them at the range, scolding
them for poor play, and poor practice habits, and all in all the activity was approached in a way that is totally different to our north american style.
They were not mean to their kids, but their culture is to 'not waste a moment',
practice like you have no tomorrow, and be serious and work very very hard.
I'm wondering how many of those kids, after the fact, were sorry they had
initiated the desire to golf in the first place, as it seemed, in many cases that
they created monsters out of their parents, as, there was much money put into
the sport, and at the end of the day, a professional golfer, would make that
money back.
My grandson did the same, but, without any prodding from anyone, just support,
as everything he did was self induced, and came from his own desire to be the
best he could be in the game of golf. The same money was dealt out, but the
child was left alone to fight his way along, with 'tough love' at times, as the
sport can bring out demons from time to time.
This is not a criticism of the asian method, just an observation, as I have been
there, saw that.
School is different, and I like the way the asians approach it, it should be taken
very seriously, and there shouldn't be much flexability in the attitude, and how
much work the child puts into his school work. Too much of our school time is
spend on 'socializing', how we 'dress', 'bitching about teachers', etc., and not
enough realization that you are there to 'learn' and get 'good/high' grades.
It is only a short time in one's life, and the time spent on learning is important.
I clan vouch for this in the world of sports. My grandson, who is now in college on a golf scholarship, played junior golf for years, all over b.c., mostly on the lower
mainland. I attended many of his tournaments, as a driver, chaperone. Many
asian kids in golf, parents always with them, and very very serious. They treated
the golf as though it is a school subject. Stood over them at the range, scolding
them for poor play, and poor practice habits, and all in all the activity was approached in a way that is totally different to our north american style.
They were not mean to their kids, but their culture is to 'not waste a moment',
practice like you have no tomorrow, and be serious and work very very hard.
I'm wondering how many of those kids, after the fact, were sorry they had
initiated the desire to golf in the first place, as it seemed, in many cases that
they created monsters out of their parents, as, there was much money put into
the sport, and at the end of the day, a professional golfer, would make that
money back.
My grandson did the same, but, without any prodding from anyone, just support,
as everything he did was self induced, and came from his own desire to be the
best he could be in the game of golf. The same money was dealt out, but the
child was left alone to fight his way along, with 'tough love' at times, as the
sport can bring out demons from time to time.
This is not a criticism of the asian method, just an observation, as I have been
there, saw that.
School is different, and I like the way the asians approach it, it should be taken
very seriously, and there shouldn't be much flexability in the attitude, and how
much work the child puts into his school work. Too much of our school time is
spend on 'socializing', how we 'dress', 'bitching about teachers', etc., and not
enough realization that you are there to 'learn' and get 'good/high' grades.
It is only a short time in one's life, and the time spent on learning is important.
I find alot of Asian students that excel in my school have a lack of confidence in their ability to transmit their information verbally or use interpersonal skills to their advantage. Its not due to their lack of english skills, indeed many of these same students score well above the provincial average in english. I just think that the manner in which they learn does not foster the neccessary social skills or the sense of independance neccessary to succeed in modern western society. In the job market today, its not about what you know, but what you say and your ability to respond to change that matters.
I have no doubts that Asia children are smarter at math etc. Having a relative who's just come back from teaching in China for three years, and is likely to head back again, I can attest to the way those children are educated. They are given little if any free time, they are dealt with harshly over their grades. The expectations on them are HUGE. They are smart alright. But at a price I'm not willing to pay in order to bring my kids up to par. Plain and simple. I like time with my kids.