Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency


Goober
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Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

Obama has been President since 20 Jan, 2009

He has faced many difficult decisions and policy changes / implementations

Afghanistan
Banking
Economy
Oil Spill
To name a few


What is your opinion so far - Has he done as promised take the partisanship out of Washington

What Policies has he succeeded at
What are his failures
What do you see him doing over the next 2 years or so.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

Obama has been President since 20 Jan, 2009

He has faced many difficult decisions and policy changes / implementations

Afghanistan
Banking
Economy
Oil Spill
To name a few


What is your opinion so far - Has he done as promised take the partisanship out of Washington

What Policies has he succeeded at
What are his failures
What do you see him doing over the next 2 years or so.

Too early to say for sure yet, but so far I'd give him a C+. I doubt if any of the things you've mentioned will be totally straightened out in one term. I'm not sure if his healthcare program will be an improvement.
 
Goober
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Too early to say for sure yet, but so far I'd give him a C+. I doubt if any of the things you've mentioned will be totally straightened out in one term. I'm not sure if his healthcare program will be an improvement.

I think he handled the Oil Spill in a disasterous way - Tell the truth - it would take months - Turned down expert assistance from the netherlands that would have contained much of the damage -

Dutch have ships that could have filtered most of the oil while returning the water with a small content of oil back into the Gulf

Berms - Again Dutch expertise was offered and was brought over- but they would only allow US companies to build them - again a bad decision - They did not get built in time for many areas.

Blaming BP - which was correct but getting into a pissing match instead of laying out the truth was terrible Leadership.

All around on this I would give Obama an F-
Leadership - Planning - and getting it done - He failed on every count.
 
wulfie68
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The thing that I see most in Obama's presidency is that he has forced into being almost totally reactive on most issues. The economy was in dire straits when he took over and he was forced to deal with it... and in large part he was bound into the stimulus spending strategy that Bush's administration had embarked on. Afghanistan and Iraq, he was similarly bound to what his predecessor had started until there were was an opportunity to change the strategy. The spill in the Gulf of Mexico is similarly something that was largely out of his hands: about all he could have done would have been to step up inspections and safety protocols on those projects but its also a case that most people outside the industry don't realize there's an issue until something catastrophic happens. The biggest accomplishment of the Obama administration, in my mind, was the health care reform and it was a starting point, not a complete solution, in large part because he had to weaken it to mollify members of his own party.

As far as things like getting rid of the partisanship in Washington, he's trying but thats not something he can do alone. Too many Dems and Republicans have too much to gain by keeping the electorate polarized and divided, even if it isn't the best thing for the country.

On the whole I'd give him a C so far, which is quite an improvement from Bush but he's got a long way to go.
 
petros
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My opinion?


You don't want to know my opinion.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

I think he handled the Oil Spill in a disasterous way - Tell the truth - it would take months - Turned down expert assistance from the netherlands that would have contained much of the damage -

Dutch have ships that could have filtered most of the oil while returning the water with a small content of oil back into the Gulf

Berms - Again Dutch expertise was offered and was brought over- but they would only allow US companies to build them - again a bad decision - They did not get built in time for many areas.

Blaming BP - which was correct but getting into a pissing match instead of laying out the truth was terrible Leadership.

All around on this I would give Obama an F-
Leadership - Planning - and getting it done - He failed on every count.

YOu know more about him that I do and I have no reason to disbelieve you, most of what I see on T.V. I like BUT that is only talk.....................
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

My opinion?


You don't want to know my opinion.

Almost like right out of a very good movie.
 
YukonJack
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One moment Obama reminds me of Alfred E. Newman, the next moment he reminds me of Pinnochio.
 
mentalfloss
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I think there is a lot of expectation for him to radically change society and that expectation is a bit unfair considering it's only been about a year. He could have done more during the climate summit last year, but I think the health reform is a step in the right direction.

I'd probably give him a B- if I were to grade him right now, but I'm pretty optimistic that there is definitely a 'crowning achievement' that he will be known for by the end of this term if not the next.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

One moment Obama reminds me of Alfred E. Newman, the next moment he reminds me of Pinnochio.

Which is his good side?
 
Avro
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Obama is about the same as the last guy.
 
SirJosephPorter
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I would give him a 'B' so far.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Obama is about the same as the last guy.

Yep, most politicians are pretty much tarred with the same brush. "There is honour among thieves"..................:lol :
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

I would give him a 'B' so far.

How would you rate his response to the spill in the gulf?

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Yep, most politicians are pretty much tarred with the same brush. "There is honour among thieves"..................:lol :

Perhaps Liars should be added to that????
 
AnnaG
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Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

Highly over-rated.
 
taxslave
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I think he has done quite well considering what he was given to start with. There were also a lot of unrealistic expectations that of course he could not possibly live up to. High C+ Would have been a B- if he had not let Broken Pipeline bull**** him into believing the leak was small and easily fixed.
 
Kreskin
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Under the circumstances he has been good.

He's a pretty cool dude too. Lots of confidence and very good at clearly communicating some complicated issues.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Under the circumstances he has been good.

He's a pretty cool dude too. Lots of confidence and very good at clearly communicating some complicated issues.

Confidence Yes - Great speaker - yes - leadership - No on some issues.
 
AnnaG
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So far I haven't seen anything spectacular. So like I said, after all the hoopla while he was running for prez and the Nobel Prize for Promises, he's a yawner.
 
Kreskin
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There's a lot of peace in yawning.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Confidence Yes - Great speaker - yes - leadership - No on some issues.

I think he deserves a little time for learning. If we were to dump him tomorrow (if it were possible) who would be fit to replace him? Besides perhaps McCain. Sure wouldn't want Hillary in there (of course it's miraculous that she's even alive after alighting that plane in a deluge of bombs, shells and missiles)
 
Colpy
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There were such inflated expectations of the guy that he could not possibly have lived up to them........

That said, I think he is going to be a colossal disappointment.....I think health care will be his crowning achievement......

He has not done well with the oil spill, with military affairs, with the Middle East, with Israel..........

His spending is out of control!

But he may yet grow into the job.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

How would you rate his response to the spill in the gulf?

I think he was blindsided by BP regarding the spill. He probably did not think that BP would low ball the estimates of oil leaking to such an extent. Initially BP was claiming a leak of 5000 barrels a day, which is a minor leak and not really worthy of the attention of the president. So Obama did not get involved for a long time.

Now it turns out that the leak may be well in excess of 100,000 barrels a day, and in hindsight, more drastic action was required from day one. If Obama could be faulted, it would be for putting too much trust in a big corporation.
 
wulfie68
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His spending is out of control!

His spending isn't as out of control as Bush's was, he just put all the Iraq-Afghanistan crap into the budget instead of using supplemental bills to fund them (which was Bush's answer). Couple the fact that he was also saddled with a lot of the stimulus promises from Bush and the impetus of his deficits and it puts Obama in almost the same kind of position Mulroney was in when he took over from True-dough.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68View Post

His spending isn't as out of control as Bush's was, he just put all the Iraq-Afghanistan crap into the budget instead of using supplemental bills to fund them (which was Bush's answer). Couple the fact that he was also saddled with a lot of the stimulus promises from Bush and the impetus of his deficits and it puts Obama in almost the same kind of position Mulroney was in when he took over from True-dough.

Yep, for all Bush's blunders I doubt if they can hold a candle to the mess Trudeau left Canada in. Took us from a few million in the black to over 1/2 trillion in the red in 16 years.
 
taxslave
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Yep, for all Bush's blunders I doubt if they can hold a candle to the mess Trudeau left Canada in. Took us from a few million in the black to over 1/2 trillion in the red in 16 years.

Not to mention ramming french down our throats, and forcing multi-culti on us. And the NEP. Way to divide a country.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68View Post

His spending isn't as out of control as Bush's was, he just put all the Iraq-Afghanistan crap into the budget instead of using supplemental bills to fund them (which was Bush's answer). Couple the fact that he was also saddled with a lot of the stimulus promises from Bush and the impetus of his deficits and it puts Obama in almost the same kind of position Mulroney was in when he took over from True-dough.


Actually it is and there has to be a time when the left will have to stop saying "Bush". He said he could fix it...he got the job.
 
Curiosity
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My initial reaction and it has not changed so far....

"You've gotta be kidding!"
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

I think he was blindsided by BP regarding the spill. He probably did not think that BP would low ball the estimates of oil leaking to such an extent. Initially BP was claiming a leak of 5000 barrels a day, which is a minor leak and not really worthy of the attention of the president. So Obama did not get involved for a long time.

Now it turns out that the leak may be well in excess of 100,000 barrels a day, and in hindsight, more drastic action was required from day one. If Obama could be faulted, it would be for putting too much trust in a big corporation.

SJP - Your opinion on this - Blind sided or not - Obama wears a part of this disaster the same a Bush with Katrina

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Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.

The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway.

"Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour," Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide,
giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.


Read the complete article - Interesting how Obama had no plan, no control, just rhetoric -
 
SirJosephPorter
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SJP - Your opinion on this - Blind sided or not - Obama wears a part of this disaster the same a Bush with Katrina
Avertible catastrophe
Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.
The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway.
"Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour," Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide,
giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.

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Well, as I said before, Obama's mistake was that he believed the BP estimate of the size of the spill. Perhaps he should have obtained independent estimates right at the beginning.
 

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