Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency


ironsides
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

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For President Obama, the image of a bloodied Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi offers vindication, however harrowing, of his intervention in Libya, where a reluctant commander in chief put strict limits on American military engagement and let NATO allies take the lead in backing the rebels.

We had no strict limits placed upon our military, Obama just closely controlled what we did the last couple of months. What happened to Qaddafi was the result of us taking the lead. Still does not vindicate President Obama for what he is doing to the United States now. There must be a change in 2012.
 
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Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by ironsidesView Post

We had no strict limits placed upon our military, Obama just closely controlled what we did the last couple of months. What happened to Qaddafi was the result of us taking the lead. Still does not vindicate President Obama for what he is doing to the United States now. There must be a change in 2012.

And who on the repub side can do that. Seems they are short on a lot of things. And the Party is being held up by Tea baggers - hard evangelicals - and so on.
 
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And my opinion so far on the Obama Presidency....


 
Highball
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My opinion??? I voted last time for the "Change You Can Believe In." This time I'll vote to prove I'm not an idiot! His performance? Dismal but with the help of a dismal Congress too.
 
Goober
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My opinion??? I voted last time for the "Change You Can Believe In." This time I'll vote to prove I'm not an idiot! His performance? Dismal but with the help of a dismal Congress too.

Well he did inherit a fuking mess.
 
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Well he did inherit a fuking mess.

Yes he did. He also promised to fix it. Making it even a bigger f*ing mess wasn't part of his campaign promises.
 
Goober
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Yes he did. He also promised to fix it. Making it even a bigger f*ing mess wasn't part of his campaign promises.

The mess will take a decade to fix. Cuts and taxes.
 
ironsides
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

And who on the repub side can do that. Seems they are short on a lot of things. And the Party is being held up by Tea baggers - hard evangelicals - and so on.

So called Tea party are not holding up anything, they are to small a group. As for the hard evangelicals, another group smaller than the Tea party. The Republicans are running people with no more or less experience than President Obama had, even a couple are very qualified. Just that the left (including you) refuse to accept anyone from the GOP, wouldn't matter who they ran. As for inheriting a mess, maybe he did, but when you see a mess you try and clean it up, not make it worse. This mess would have happened no matter who was president these past 10 years, it was preordained since at least 1955. Fixing it is not in his job description.
 
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Yes he did. He also promised to fix it. Making it even a bigger f*ing mess wasn't part of his campaign promises.

Yes and the GOP promised something about fixing the economy if they gained control of the House (or Senate, whichever it is). I thought all problems were solved.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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HE SUCKS!

Just checking in.
 
ironsides
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Yes and the GOP promised something about fixing the economy if they gained control of the House (or Senate, whichever it is). I thought all problems were solved.

Give them the Senate also and watch what happens. (need both houses or a combination of both to do anything) I would like to see how some of these new GOP members with their new ideas handle it, can do no worse.

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HE SUCKS!

Just checking in.

Your motion is noted.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

HE SUCKS!

Just checking in.


Hey, be nice. He's a fellow author.

 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Hey, be nice. He's a fellow author.

Even ITN hates him and he voted for him.
 
ironsides
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What idiots he has surounded himself with.
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Vice President Joe Biden has been steadfast in his claim that if the president’s American Jobs Act does not pass, then “rape will continue to rise.”
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by ironsidesView Post

So called Tea party are not holding up anything, they are to small a group. As for the hard evangelicals, another group smaller than the Tea party. The Republicans are running people with no more or less experience than President Obama had, even a couple are very qualified. Just that the left (including you) refuse to accept anyone from the GOP, wouldn't matter who they ran. As for inheriting a mess, maybe he did, but when you see a mess you try and clean it up, not make it worse. This mess would have happened no matter who was president these past 10 years, it was preordained since at least 1955. Fixing it is not in his job description.

No I am not on the left - I read the TB announcements - add in the evangelicals - lots of votes - now they have not been a positive influence for GOP leaders in the House / Senate to work out a strategy - All I see is cuts that will affect the poor from these people (Tbaggers) - well i disagree and that is not left wing that is only being fair - everyone has to as they say feel the pain. And yes it will take a decade to fix -

The present economic slump was and has meant a structural change - No longer is a semi skilled worker in demand in an area and in the past he would move when the economy slowed where he was located.
The shortage is in professionals in many areas- from engineers and others with such education.
 
ironsides
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

No I am not on the left - I read the TB announcements - add in the evangelicals - lots of votes - now they have not been a positive influence for GOP leaders in the House / Senate to work out a strategy - All I see is cuts that will affect the poor from these people (Tbaggers) - well i disagree and that is not left wing that is only being fair - everyone has to as they say feel the pain. And yes it will take a decade to fix -

The present economic slump was and has meant a structural change - No longer is a semi skilled worker in demand in an area and in the past he would move when the economy slowed where he was located.
The shortage is in professionals in many areas- from engineers and others with such education.

Your right, when we lost the jobs due to outsourcing to other countries those engineers and others had to learn new job skills and are now gone. We have to somehow get our colleges to start pushing out more engineers, mathematicians, chemists etc. No matter what political party wins, the poor in the U.S. have always been taken care of. Unfortunately we will always have a poor class either by their choice or by chance.


 
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Quote: Originally Posted by ironsidesView Post

Your right, when we lost the jobs due to outsourcing to other countries those engineers and others had to learn new job skills and are now gone. We have to somehow get our colleges to start pushing out more engineers, mathematicians, chemists etc. No matter what political party wins, the poor in the U.S. have always been taken care of. Unfortunately we will always have a poor class either by their choice or by chance.


My point is everyone has to pay a share - On education - well that is part of the decade I was referring to - Economy - taxes and spending cuts - You know that as well as I.
 
Colpy
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He has completely screwed the nation.

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Goober
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He has completely screwed the nation.

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Bailouts of Banks, Corps etc were started under the Bush Administration - approved by Dems (Obama Pres elect) & Repubs - Now in Europe they are looking to how quickly the US Govt acted.
Go to Euro land and it takes 17 Govts to approve the bailouts for Greece. They are unable to act efficiently -the longer it goes on the worse it becomes.

I see Obama wants to raise taxes and cut spending - The repubs - Only raise spending with equal cuts - no new spending - and drastic cuts.

Everything should be on the table. In this divided Govt - and i blame both - You cannot negotiate with yourself - You need the other guy to pony up as well.
 
Goober
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Obama makes a dumb move in an election year.

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The Administration’s decision to require Catholic charities and universities to provide free birth control through employee health coverage is several weeks old, but the maelstrom of dissent it’s created is widening. Republicans, who charge that the measure violates such organizations’ religious freedoms, have allied with Catholic groups in opposition, and in recent days a handful of high-profile Democrats have joined their ranks in calling on the Administration to broaden exemptions from the rule.

On Wednesday, Tim Kaine, the former Obama-picked Democratic National Committee chairman who is now running for Senate in Virginia, told a radio interviewer he had “grave concerns.” “I think the White House made a good decision in including a mandate for contraception coverage in the Affordable Care Act insurance policy,” he said, “but I think they made a bad decision in not allowing a broad enough religious- employer exemption.” Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey and Connecticut Representative John Larson, the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House, expressed similar criticisms. All three are Catholic. (As Amy Sullivan writes at The Atlantic, many of the people lobbying the White House for a broader exemption are longstanding allies.)

Conservative backlash has been much fiercer. Speaker John Boehner took to the House floor on Wednesday to condemn the ruling and pledged to draft legislation to block it. “If the President does not reverse the attack on religious freedom,” he said, “then the Congress, acting on behalf of the American people and the Constitution we are sworn to uphold and defend, must.“
 
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Obama makes a dumb move in an election year.
Conflict Over Obama’s Contraception Rule Intensifies | Swampland | TIME.com
The Administration’s decision to require Catholic charities and universities to provide free birth control through employee health coverage is several weeks old, but the maelstrom of dissent it’s created is widening. Republicans, who charge that the measure violates such organizations’ religious freedoms, have allied with Catholic groups in opposition, and in recent days a handful of high-profile Democrats have joined their ranks in calling on the Administration to broaden exemptions from the rule.
On Wednesday, Tim Kaine, the former Obama-picked Democratic National Committee chairman who is now running for Senate in Virginia, told a radio interviewer he had “grave concerns.” “I think the White House made a good decision in including a mandate for contraception coverage in the Affordable Care Act insurance policy,” he said, “but I think they made a bad decision in not allowing a broad enough religious- employer exemption.” Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey and Connecticut Representative John Larson, the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House, expressed similar criticisms. All three are Catholic. (As Amy Sullivan writes at The Atlantic, many of the people lobbying the White House...

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