Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!


SirJosephPorter
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No, this is not resurrection of the old thread. In fact, I have posted this thread several times now. It is always a great day when another Bible thumper is exposed as a hypocrite.

This time it is California assemblyman Mike Duvall. Highly conservative, strong opponent of gay marriage, darling of the religious right. He was caught on tape bragging about his sexual escapades with two women, other than his wife. The dialog is quite racy; you may read the transcript here.

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I am not going to give any details here, I am not sure what the standards of decency are on this forum, and the transcript may not pass the test. You may read it in full at the link I gave here. But I must warn you, it reads like a Penthouse Forum letter.

OK, here is a snippet, but just one, mind you (with apologies to the moderators).

"I like spanking her," he is heard on the videotape.

"She goes, 'I know you like spanking me.' I said, 'Yeah, that's 'cause you're such a bad girl."'

Anyway, the upshot of it was that Duvall was removed from two leadership posts by the Republicans and eventually he resigned in disgrace.

Duvall received a 100 percent rating from Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative advocacy group, for his votes on legislation considered pro-family during the 2007-08 legislative session. He was also a very vocal, very strident opponent of gay marriage.

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Anyway, another religious right zealot caught in his own hypocrisy. There is God, after all.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Anyway, another religious right zealot caught in his own hypocrisy. There is God, after all.


Where do you get that he is a RELIGIOUS right zealot?
 
CDNBear
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Well I just sifted through the minutia of the net, only to find that he's not a stark raving mad bible thumper.

Could you please provide some proof that he's as you described?
 
lone wolf
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Geez ... you should hear the lines that Steelworkers are feeding to the public to justify the Inco-killing strike.....

Hypocrites? Show me someone who isn't one. Then, you'll be showing me news.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Geez ... you should hear the lines that Steelworkers are feeding to the public to justify the Inco-killing strike.....

Hypocrites? Show me someone who isn't one. Then, you'll be showing me news.

 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

No, this is not resurrection of the old thread. In fact, I have posted this thread several times now. It is always a great day when another Bible thumper is exposed as a hypocrite.

This time it is California assemblyman Mike Duvall. Highly conservative, strong opponent of gay marriage, darling of the religious right. He was caught on tape bragging about his sexual escapades with two women, other than his wife. The dialog is quite racy; you may read the transcript here.

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I am not going to give any details here, I am not sure what the standards of decency are on this forum, and the transcript may not pass the test. You may read it in full at the link I gave here. But I must warn you, it reads like a Penthouse Forum letter.

OK, here is a snippet, but just one, mind you (with apologies to the moderators).

"I like spanking her," he is heard on the videotape.

"She goes, 'I know you like spanking me.' I said, 'Yeah, that's 'cause you're such a bad girl."'

Anyway, the upshot of it was that Duvall was removed from two leadership posts by the Republicans and eventually he resigned in disgrace.

Duvall received a 100 percent rating from Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative advocacy group, for his votes on legislation considered pro-family during the 2007-08 legislative session. He was also a very vocal, very strident opponent of gay marriage.

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Anyway, another religious right zealot caught in his own hypocrisy. There is God, after all.

When a Liberal gets caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - not a peep from you -Who is hypocritical?
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

When a Liberal gets caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - not a peep from you -Who is hypocritical?

Goober, do you not remember me showing joey how the Dems tore apart Sarah Palin?
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Goober, do you not remember me showing joey how the Dems tore apart Sarah Palin?

What does that have to do with my post - Palin was and is weird as shiite - Yes?
 
gerryh
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I just want him to prove his religious right zealot claim.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

What does that have to do with my post -

You're asking joey if the left does anything wrong. You should already know the answer to that.

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Palin was and is weird as shiite - Yes?

Not really.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

I just want him to prove his religious right zealot claim.

So do I.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

I just want him to prove his religious right zealot claim.

Are there even religious zealots in California? Prove that first if you can.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Are there even religious zealots in California? Prove that first if you can.



Is tofu a religion?
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

When a Liberal gets caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - not a peep from you -Who is hypocritical?


We have been through this before, Goober. If a liberal is caught in sexual peccadillo, he is guilty of sexual peccadillo, not of hypocrisy.

A liberal does not pry into sexual life of citizens, a conservative does. So when a conservative is caught with his pants down (Larry, Craig, Mark Sanford etc.), he is guilty of hypocrisy in addition to the sex act and pays for it dearly.

Here is a self proclaimed champion of family values, somebody who received 100% rating for a family values group, a vociferous opponent of gay marriage. When he is caught in sex act, he is guilty of hypocrisy big time.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Are there even religious zealots in California? Prove that first if you can.


Petros, California is an odd mixture of liberals and conservatives. Democrats in California tend to be very liberal, on the line of New York Democrats. Republicans on the other hand, tend to be very conservative, along the lines of Texas Republicans.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Where do you get that he is a RELIGIOUS right zealot?

He is trolling. I have reported him.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post



Is tofu a religion?

No but what remains of a Marin lunch is often silently buried in paper bags along the alpine trails of Mt Shasta as an offering to the amanita gods.
 
AnnaG
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What's gay marriage have to do with some guy spanking his "naughty" wife or whatever?
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

What's gay marriage have to do with some guy spanking his "naughty" wife or whatever?


That is one indication that he is a religious conservative (the fact that he got a 100% rating from a family values group is another). That really tells me his worldview, which is Christian right, religious right.

He doesn’t specifically have to say that it is wrong to spank your spouse during foreplay to be considered a hypocrite (and he wasn't spanking his wife, but his mistress). Anybody who espouses family values as strongly as he did and then admit to extramarital affairs (two of them) is a hypocrite as far as I am concerned.

And surprisingly, Republican Party saw it that way, usually conservatives don’t see anything wrong with hypocrisy, I don’t think many of them even understand the concept. But the Republicans did move against him and eventually he resigned. A just end to a religious hypocrite.
 
gerryh
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again with the religion crap.... IF he was a "religious zealot" then there should be no problem proving it as "religious zealots" are very vocal about their religion and their God. If you can't prove it, then you should concede your error.
 
petros
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Who cares if God told him or Satan told him to spank the hooker. He spanked a bloody hooker for pete's sake.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

That is one indication that he is a religious conservative (the fact that he got a 100% rating from a family values group is another). That really tells me his worldview, which is Christian right, religious right.

He doesn’t specifically have to say that it is wrong to spank your spouse during foreplay to be considered a hypocrite (and he wasn't spanking his wife, but his mistress). Anybody who espouses family values as strongly as he did and then admit to extramarital affairs (two of them) is a hypocrite as far as I am concerned.

And surprisingly, Republican Party saw it that way, usually conservatives don’t see anything wrong with hypocrisy, I don’t think many of them even understand the concept. But the Republicans did move against him and eventually he resigned. A just end to a religious hypocrite.

And there sure isn't any hypocrites in the DemocRAT party or the Gliberal party, is there?
Hypocricy abounds in politics regardless of party.

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Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

That is one indication that he is a religious conservative (the fact that he got a 100% rating from a family values group is another). That really tells me his worldview, which is Christian right, religious right.

He doesn’t specifically have to say that it is wrong to spank your spouse during foreplay to be considered a hypocrite (and he wasn't spanking his wife, but his mistress). Anybody who espouses family values as strongly as he did and then admit to extramarital affairs (two of them) is a hypocrite as far as I am concerned.

And surprisingly, Republican Party saw it that way, usually conservatives don’t see anything wrong with hypocrisy, I don’t think many of them even understand the concept. But the Republicans did move against him and eventually he resigned. A just end to a religious hypocrite.

Just me though, seen a lot of women that if they liked spanking, count me in.
 
YukonJack
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Is this so-called scandal any worse than Barney Franks running a homosexual prostitution ring from his taxpayer-subsidized apartment?

Wild guess: according to SirJosephPorter, YES, because, at least, Barney Franks provided a useful service for minorities.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Just me though, seen a lot of women that if they liked spanking, count me in.

Indeed Goober. I assume some women (and some men for that matter) like to be spanked. However, if Duvall was into a kinky lifestyle, why appoint himself the spokesperson for religious right? Why the vigorous opposition to gay marriage? Why sell himself as a politician who protects family values?

Perhaps he may have thought that spanking is not as kinky as homosexuality, so one may indulge in spanking and still oppose homosexuality. Or perhaps he found support somewhere in the Bible for his spanking practices, perhaps God told him that spanking is a Godly practice (I assume he has a direct hotline to God, he speaks to God every day), who knows?

The point is that he was guilty of hypocrisy big time and surprise, this time even Republicans understood the concept.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

Is this so-called scandal any worse than Barney Franks running a homosexual prostitution ring from his taxpayer-subsidized apartment?

Wild guess: according to SirJosephPorter, YES, because, at least, Barney Franks provided a useful service for minorities.

YJ, what Franks did was for the law enforcement and his voters to sort out. Law enforcement didn’t take any action, so I assume what he did was not illegal. His voters did not think he did anything wrong, they continue reelecting him every two years. So bringing Franks into the argument is a red herring, nothing more.

Whatever sexual practices of the politicians, that is their affair and nobody’s business. It becomes everybody’s business when they proclaim in a mealy mouthed way to stand for family values, stand for God, when they oppose homosexuality etc. Then they are guilty of hypocrisy.

That is why people like Mark Foley, Senator Larry ‘wide stance’ Craig, Duvall etc. bit dust, while Franks is still standing tall.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Whatever sexual practices of the politicians, that is their affair and nobody’s business. It becomes everybody’s business when they proclaim in a mealy mouthed way to stand for family values, stand for God, when they oppose homosexuality etc. Then they are guilty of hypocrisy.

You might not be considered a troll if you simply provided some type of credible evidence that Duvall "opposes homosexuality"
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

What's gay marriage have to do with some guy spanking his "naughty" wife or whatever?

being against gay marriage means you have to also fit into the pigeon hole of being 'above' straight affairs? I guess?
 
gopher
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I confess to not having heard about Duvall before so I don't know much about this particular matter. But when I did a google the first thing I found was this gem:








Now, THAT's worth a good laugh!
 
karrie
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Okay, so I unignored the OP out of curiosity so I could follow the link... did anyone actually READ this? OMG... lol.

"... He resigned due to revealing of a recording of his own voice during an assembly meeting. It was discussing between him and another assembly member about his past extramarital affairs Duvall told his own story in clear words without knowing that mic is on. He did not switch off the microphone and his each word recorded clearly as he described.
The secret of Duvall was revealed on 8 September 2009 by KCL news. KCL also showed the footage of the conversation. An other news source OC weekly also published a long detail about the affairs of Duvall which were untold in the news of KCL. OC weekly also reported that Duvall was also involved in a woman named, Heidi DeJong Barsuglia. She is lobbyist and going to 36. Duvall’s all the gossip with his colleague is recorded as"


it doesn't give a source, and is written in some of the most incredibly broken English I've ever read. What a ridiculous source for this article. I can't fathom relying on this kind of tripe for my 'news'.
 
gopher
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there are various videos on youtube which show him discussing his past sins:

YouTube - Assemblyman Mike Duvall Sex Comments Caught on Tape




this is one example
 

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