Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!


SirJosephPorter
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No, I am not trying to revive the old thread (where religious right Senator, John Ensign admitted to having an affair with his staffer). I know this sounds like a broken record, but another prominent Republican politician has admitted to having an affair.

This time it is the South Carolina governor, Mark Sanford. This is a much bigger fish than Senator Ensign. Sanford is considered a strong front runner for the 2012 Republican nomination. He was the darling of religious right (maybe he still is, I don’t know, religious right is not bothered by hypocrisy).

Sanford disappeared for a few days, and it was quite a story. Sanford’s staff put out the story that he had been hiking the Appalachian Trail (personally I found that difficult to believe, according to CNN, yesterday was the nude hiking day at the Appalachian Trail).

However, his car was spotted parked at the airport. Then yesterday it was revealed that he had flown to Argentina without telling anybody about it. Now, of course it turns out that he was visiting his mistress in Argentina.

Indeed, what is it about these religious types that they cannot keep their pants zipped up? Is it their repressive upbringing, the sheltered life they lead (I assume they are surrounded by the religious right types form birth), is it their phony Biblical beliefs?

They preach to others how they should live their lives (Sanford is a staunch supporter of religious right, with opposition to abortion, contraception, support for Creationism and so on), they themselves do not live by what they preach, and they (and Republican base) do not see anything wrong with it.

It would be interesting to see if Sanford still remains a front runner for the 2012 Republican nomination. The Republican base is not bothered by hypocrisy, so it is still quite possible that Sanford may yet win the nomination in 2012. And I hope he does. Obama will have smooth sailing against such a hypocrite in the general eleciton, no matter what the state of the economy.

South Carolina Gov. Sanford admits extramarital affair - CNN.com
 
talloola
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

No, I am not trying to revive the old thread (where religious right Senator, John Ensign admitted to having an affair with his staffer). I know this sounds like a broken record, but another prominent Republican politician has admitted to having an affair.
This time it is the South Carolina governor, Mark Sanford. This is a much bigger fish than Senator Ensign. Sanford is considered a strong front runner for the 2012 Republican nomination. He was the darling of religious right (maybe he still is, I don’t know, religious right is not bothered by hypocrisy).
Sanford disappeared for a few days, and it was quite a story. Sanford’s staff put out the story that he had been hiking the Appalachian Trail (personally I found that difficult to believe, according to CNN, yesterday was the nude hiking day at the Appalachian Trail).
However, his car was spotted parked at the airport. Then yesterday it was revealed that he had flown to Argentina without telling anybody about it. Now, of course it turns out that he was visiting his mistress in Argentina.
Indeed, what is it about these religious types that they cannot keep their pants zipped up? Is it their repressive upbringing, the sheltered life they lead (I assume they are surrounded by the religious right types form birth), is it their phony Biblical beliefs?

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I watched him today give the apology, it just sounded like political rhetoric,
he was just talking about himself, looking good, making it right in front
of the voters. It didn't look or sound right. Where was the sincerity, I
couldn't see anywhere.
He shouldn't be apoligizing to the public anyway, he should be begging and
pleading to his family, he is a shameful piece of trash, and a hypocrite.
 
DichotoMe
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A certifiable hypocrite. Proves that when it comes to pussy we're all just men, except for "the gays" eh Libman! lol
 
TenPenny
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Oh, no, he's not a hypocrite, because he never said it was wrong to fly to Argentia to visit your mistress.
 
SirJosephPorter
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For those of you who may be unaware of it, Sanford was on the House Judiciary Committee (he was in the House at that time, before he became the governor of South Carolina) when the committee voted to impeach Clinton. Sanford said at that time that he was deeply troubled by the moral turpitude displayed by Clinton. I think he was one of the House members who argued the case for conviction before the Senate.

He clearly wanted to remove Clinton from the office for committing adultery. But is he going to resign for doing the same? Don’t hold your breath.

Hypocrisy of some of these religious right type is breathtaking.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

No, I am not trying to revive the old thread (where religious right Senator, John Ensign admitted to having an affair with his staffer). I know this sounds like a broken record, but another prominent Republican politician has admitted to having an affair.
This time it is the South Carolina governor, Mark Sanford. This is a much bigger fish than Senator Ensign. Sanford is considered a strong front runner for the 2012 Republican nomination. He was the darling of religious right (maybe he still is, I don’t know, religious right is not bothered by hypocrisy).
Sanford disappeared for a few days, and it was quite a story. Sanford’s staff put out the story that he had been hiking the Appalachian Trail (personally I found that difficult to believe, according to CNN, yesterday was the nude hiking day at the Appalachian Trail).
However, his car was spotted parked at the airport. Then yesterday it was revealed that he had flown to Argentina without telling anybody about it. Now, of course it turns out that he was visiting his mistress in Argentina.
Indeed, what is it about these religious types that they cannot keep their pants zipped up? Is it their repressive upbringing, the sheltered life they lead (I assume they are surrounded by the religious right types form birth), is it their phony Biblical beliefs?

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I woukl have thought that after Bill's shenanagins with Monica that this stuff might rate a caption on page 32 of the tabloids.
 
SirJosephPorter
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I woukl have thought that after Bill's shenanagins with Monica that this stuff might rate a caption on page 32 of the tabloids.



Normally that would be the case, JLM. If a Democratic politician had admitted to committing adultery, that is just what would have happened. However, people in general have a big problem with hypocrisy (though many conservatives don’t see anything wrong with it).

And this was hypocrisy big time. In addition to being the strong supporter of religious right (and as such ranting and raving against adultery, homosexuality, promiscuity etc.), Sanford was at the forefront for impeaching Clinton for adultery. When such a hypocrite is caught with his hands in the cookie jar, it is a big story. It will be in the news for several day yet.

Besides, there are questions as to whether he used any of the tax payer’s money to carry out his adultery. If he did that, that will be serious. But at the very least, it is a deep embracement for Republicans. They are always telling others how they should live their lives, they are always preaching to the others, and it turns out that one Republican politician after another cannot keep his pants zipped up.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Normally that would be the case, JLM. If a Democratic politician had admitted to committing adultery, that is just what would have happened. However, people in general have a big problem with hypocrisy (though many conservatives don’t see anything wrong with it).

And this was hypocrisy big time. In addition to being the strong supporter of religious right (and as such ranting and raving against adultery, homosexuality, promiscuity etc.), Sanford was at the forefront for impeaching Clinton for adultery. When such a hypocrite is caught with his hands in the cookie jar, it is a big story. It will be in the news for several day yet.

Besides, there are questions as to whether he used any of the tax payer’s money to carry out his adultery. If he did that, that will be serious. But at the very least, it is a deep embracement for Republicans. They are always telling others how they should live their lives, they are always preaching to the others, and it turns out that one Republican politician after another cannot keep his pants zipped up.

Yep, I agree with that, but I think anytime there's involvement with dirty linen, and hypocrisy, there's about a 50% chance it's going to be a Republican. Carnal desires don't recognize political boundaries. Of course anytime there is adultery (at least after a church wedding), there is hypocrisy.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Yep, I agree with that, but I think anytime there's involvement with dirty linen, and hypocrisy, there's about a 50% chance it's going to be a Republican. Carnal desires don't recognize political boundaries.

More like 90% chance, JLM. Democrats as a rule don’t preach to others how they should live their lives, Republicans do. When a Democrat is unfaithful to his wife, it is adultery. When a Republican is unfaithful, it is adultery and hypocrisy.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

More like 90% chance, JLM. Democrats as a rule don’t preach to others how they should live their lives, Republicans do. When a Democrat is unfaithful to his wife, it is adultery. When a Republican is unfaithful, it is adultery and hypocrisy.

NO WAY- I'd guess about 90% of marriages include the oath "till death do us part" and if you break that oath, it's hypocrisy plain and simple. NOTHING to do with political orientation.
 
SirJosephPorter
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NO WAY- I'd guess about 90% of marriages include the oath "till death do us part" and if you break that oath, it's hypocrisy plain and simple. NOTHING to do with political orientation.

JLM, that kind of hypocrisy is private hypocrisy, that is between the man and his wife (and perhaps his God). It is for them to sort out, and nobody’s business.

However, when a politician tells others not to commit adultery (as Sanford did), when he rants and raves at others for committing adultery, when he tried to remove other politicians from office for committing adultery (as Sanford did), then it becomes public’s business.

That is why it is a big deal with Sanford committing adultery (for that matter, any republican committing adultery).
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

JLM, that kind of hypocrisy is private hypocrisy, that is between the man and his wife (and perhaps his God). It is for them to sort out, and nobody’s business.

However, when a politician tells others not to commit adultery (as Sanford did), when he rants and raves at others for committing adultery, when he tried to remove other politicians from office for committing adultery (as Sanford did), then it becomes public’s business.

That is why it is a big deal with Sanford committing adultery (for that matter, any republican committing adultery).

Where the hell is old Yukon Jack when we need him?
 
SirJosephPorter
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Where the hell is old Yukon Jack when we need him?

He is probably lying low, getting his talking points from the discussion blogs on Townhall. He will be here to defend Sanford shortly, never fear.
 
JLM
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S.J. I know you THINK that hypocrisy is a conservative/Republican trait, but when these guys "cross the floor" as many of them do, do they change from hypocrite to non hypocrite and vice versa? - I doubt it.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

S.J. I know you THINK that hypocrisy is a conservative/Republican trait, but when these guys "cross the floor" as many of them do, do they change from hypocrite to non hypocrite and vice versa? - I doubt it.

Cross the floor? You mean change political parties? Very few politicians do that, JLM. Those who cross from Republican to Democrat (like Senator Specter of Pennsylvania) are on the moderate wing of the party, they are not into fire and brimstone, Bible based preaching.

And those who cross from Democratic to Republican parties (during the 80s there were many defections in the South, in the Bible Belt, not of politicians, but of voters) are usually very conservative, more conservative than many Republicans.

A conservative is more likely to be guilty of hypocrisy than a liberal, since liberals do not preach to others, conservative do, routinely. Party crossers (and there are very few of them) are no different.
 
GreenFish66
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There' is no real excuse for cheating on your better half.. some just can't seem to control that animal urge when confronted with the opportunity..

.I would say the relationship has probably gone stale ,if anyone could even think of cheating on that life partner,That soul mate..The 1 and only...

Don't normally like to go there but Here's some Personal info(not lookin for pity ,just for the issue so don't get all sappy on me ) ..

I don't want to offend my ex .Put her through anymore than she has..Believe me she's gone though enough ..She does have a good heart..However .All being equal and all..Both men and women cheat.

Seems (according to all the news lately) like only men are cheating .My wife cheated on me..With a co-worker at a party.I Heard him braggin about it outside a local bar ,to his friends ,a couple weeks after.Wasn't braggin or doin much for awhile after that cuz I beat the supreme **** out of him..(another animal instinct, but that's another story).

Don't go to bars much anymore..!to watch drunkin dicks goin after drunk flirty,gigglin girls just doesn't do it for me (anymore)
This sort of thing happens all the time( more so for party people who just can't settle.Wanna see what their worth on the market I guess.).

.I split with my wife after 10 yrs!..I never would have..I believe you should stick with the one your with..We are still friends, but I could never trust her again..It just seemed too easy for her to do it and then lie afterwards ..Until she could no longer deny the truth....We have both had parteners since..Her more than me..I believe It is easier for women than men to find another partener .Now What kinda partener they are willing to settle for, still bewilders me...(as a man..In my perspective)..

I Will never marry again...

I gave it all away..(including too much personal info on this thread).. Both sexs can cheat ..but there seems to have been more men doing it publically latley...

I say don't be a victum..Get over it and move on..Not worth the time in the end..Can't dwell in the past...It's not good for anyone

I've had girlfriends since..Better this way!

None yet have met my son..I will wait for the day 1 proves worthy...

Enough about my sob story..That was years ago ..Better days are here and ahead...Still lack the trust and comittment to get attached again .But I'm workin on it!

ANYWAY... Would say Sanford seemed compassionate in his appology.Confronted his guilt.Wonder if he woulda came clean on his own..?.Givin his inabilility to control his animal instinct .I wouldn't trust that human....He's an animal.!!.

But deep down ..aren't we all.?

Don't be a victum...It's just sex!


Forgivness is 1 of the best human traits...Easier said than done ..I know..
 
SirJosephPorter
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Seems (according to all the news lately) like only men are cheating

That is true, Greenfish. Even in these days of equality, there are lot more male politicians than female politicians. And female politicians either don’t cheat, or they have much more brains than male politicians and are very discreet.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post


A conservative is more likely to be guilty of hypocrisy than a liberal, since liberals do not preach to others, conservative do, routinely. Party crossers (and there are very few of them) are no different.

Of course liberals preach to each us. They know how we should live and anyone who doesn't think like a liberal is stupid according to them.

Liberals feel immune to cheating and hypocrisy for the mere fact that they are liberal.

When they get busted it is "their" business but when conservative pols get busted it is EVERYONE's business. Hypocrisy.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Of course liberals preach to each us. They know how we should live and anyone who doesn't think like a liberal is stupid according to them.

Liberals feel immune to cheating and hypocrisy for the mere fact that they are liberal.

When they get busted it is "their" business but when conservative pols get busted it is EVERYONE's business. Hypocrisy.

Sorry EagleSmack, but liberals don’t preach to the people. Like don’t commit adultery, don’t be a homosexual, don’t have an abortion, abstain from sex before marriage etc. Conservatives routinely do, that is the specialty of conservatives.

When a conservative politician is discovered not living by the standard he sets and required for others, he is guilty of hypocrisy.

Thus if a liberal politician commits adultery, or a liberal woman gets an abortion, that is all it is, adultery or abortion, there is no hypocrisy.

However, if a conservative politician commits adultery or if a prolife woman gets an abortion (and apparently there are plenty who do), it is adultery, abortion and hypocrisy.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Sorry EagleSmack, but liberals don’t preach to the people. Like don’t commit adultery, don’t be a homosexual, don’t have an abortion, abstain from sex before marriage etc. Conservatives routinely do, that is the specialty of conservatives.

When a conservative politician is discovered not living by the standard he sets and required for others, he is guilty of hypocrisy.

Thus if a liberal politician commits adultery, or a liberal woman gets an abortion, that is all it is, adultery or abortion, there is no hypocrisy.

However, if a conservative politician commits adultery or if a prolife woman gets an abortion (and apparently there are plenty who do), it is adultery, abortion and hypocrisy.

I agree he is gulity of hypocrisy but he is alos human.

The liberals are guilty of hypocrisy because they say that their lives are private when things like this happen but when a conservative is guilty of human nature they gloat and suddenly the conservatives live is public. The liberals make every effort to drag them through the mud. Hypocrisy.

Same with Global Warming, off topic it may be but liberals preach saving the environment while abusing it to no end. Gore, the Kennedy Clan...hypocrits. Just an example since you consistently point out that liberals and democrats aren't hypocrits.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I agree he is gulity of hypocrisy but he is alos human.

The liberals are guilty of hypocrisy because they say that their lives are private when things like this happen but when a conservative is guilty of human nature they gloat and suddenly the conservatives live is public. The liberals make every effort to drag them through the mud. Hypocrisy.

Same with Global Warming, off topic it may be but liberals preach saving the environment while abusing it to no end. Gore, the Kennedy Clan...hypocrits. Just an example since you consistently point out that liberals and democrats aren't hypocrits.

Hey, Eaglesmack - you have a hardsell on your hands if you think you'll get anywhere with S.J. In Canada, we have anywhere from 5 million to 15 million Conservatives depending on the Political mood. We may have 5 thousand of them who don't mind their own business. Speaking for myself I vote Conservative very occasionally, but i don't go telling people how to run their lives.
More importantly I learned years ago that "labelling" people can be very dangerous.
 
SirJosephPorter
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The liberals are guilty of hypocrisy because they say that their lives are private when things like this happen but when a conservative is guilty of human nature they gloat and suddenly the conservatives live is public. The liberals make every effort to drag them through the mud. Hypocrisy.

Sure their lives are private, EagleSmack. If a man commits adultery, that is between him and his wife, nobody’s business. Unless of course, he has spent his life telling others in a sanctimonious, self-righteous manner not to commit adultery, unless he tried to remove other politicians (like Clinton) for committing adultery. Then it is everybody’s busyness.

In public life, hypocrisy is a bigger crime than adultery.
 
lone wolf
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How do you know his wife didn't approve?
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Sorry EagleSmack, but liberals don’t preach to the people. Like don’t commit adultery, don’t be a homosexual, don’t have an abortion, abstain from sex before marriage etc. Conservatives routinely do, that is the specialty of conservatives.

If you think liberals don't preach to people and tell them how to live, then you're blind, deaf, and stupid.

For the record, I don't think you're stupid.
 
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If you think liberals don't preach to people and tell them how to live, then you're blind, deaf, and stupid.

For the record, I don't think you're stupid.

Hey Tenpenny I'll let you in on political secret- at one time there was a definition of a liberal and a definition of a conservative and they had to do with political philosophy. Now days the lines are not quite as vivid, BUT that doesn't prevent S.J. from forming his own definitions which roughly translate as Liberal =Prince, Sage, benefactor whereas Conservative= Asshole
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post


Sure their lives are private, EagleSmack. If a man commits adultery, that is between him and his wife, nobody’s business. Unless of course, he has spent his life telling others in a sanctimonious, self-righteous manner not to commit adultery, unless he tried to remove other politicians (like Clinton) for committing adultery. Then it is everybody’s busyness.

Laughing here. So the Democrats have a "qualifier" to the "one's private life should be private" stand that they are so very hypocritical about. How convenient!

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In public life, hypocrisy is a bigger crime than adultery.

The Democrats should know!
 
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Judging by human behaviour when it comes to sexual activity, I would have to say the monogamy is unnatural to the species, particularly the male part. Conservatives know that for the most part their support comes from religious conservatives so they spout all that dogma to win votes. It should be obvious that they don't believe the stuff they spout to win votes - they are politicians after all. Can any of them be trusted?

I think, the reality is that monogamy creates hypocrisy. Like lions, a man's instinct is to spread his seed far and wide. A woman's instinct is to keep him around until her brood is independent, even if it means tricking or cajoling him. But the truth be told, women are just as apt to want multiple partners as men. It is just social pressure that keeps most people "in line". If we didn't have these silly, anti-human restrictions, I'll bet it would be a free for all.

Some women I know would just as soon their husbands had a mistress so he would leave them alone. If it wasn't for emotional insecurity, I think adultery would be no biggy. Just look at Europe. If a guy doesn't have a mistress he is considered incapable of multi-tasking. It is normal so I guess they, for the most part, are more mature than North Americans.
 
lone wolf
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...or, at least, the finger pointers among them...
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

He clearly wanted to remove Clinton from the office for committing adultery. But is he going to resign for doing the same? Don’t hold your breath.

Clinton lied to congress. He wasn't impeached because of his affair.
 
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Al Gore's house. Yup the hypocrite is doing his own part for global warming


 

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