Quit picking on Obama……


SirJosephPorter
No Party Affiliation
#61
Key words "Liberals LIKE you"... and the Liberals LIKE you have called him the devil MANY times.

Generalizations are meaningless, EagelSmack. I have never called him a Devil. Liberals like me? What does that mean? Liberals who have exactly the same views as me? 80% same views as me? 50%? It is a meaningless generalization.

Quote:

You may find it entertaining, but evidently you don’t remember it all that well, because I never said it was a good year for Democrats..


Of course I do... so do you. You are trying a spin that just will not work.

Not a spin, but fact. I challenged you to show me where I said that it was a good election for Democrats. And as I expected, you couldn’t.
 
SirJosephPorter
No Party Affiliation
#62
And anyone can say they don't LOVE OBAMA and still defend him post after post... after post.

Indeed, EagelSmack. While I don’t think much of Obama, he is infinitely better than McCain, who would have continued the process of turning USA into a Fundamentalist Theocracy (the process that gathered speed during Bush’s eight years).

And when I see baseless, ideologically motivated attacks from the right, when Obama says 2 plus 2 make 4, the right and far right would claim that it actually makes 5, you can hardly be surprised if the other side mounts a vigorous defense of Obama.

Nyet...

In fact... I ruined you in this post.


That is your opinion. I think you did nothing of the kind.

And behavoir... and responding to everyone's post if we are having fun tooling on OUR President... not yours. Although feel the need to defend him at every step in every thread... he's American (or Kenyan) and Our

Really? Well he may be your President, but this happens to be OUR forum (Canadian forum). So if you want to trash your president in a Canadian forum, Canadians have a perfect right to come to his defense (Obama is even more popular in Canada than in USA, as you may be aware). If you don’t want Canadians to say anything contrary to your trashing of Obama, go to far right American websites such as Townhall. There you could badmouth Obama till cows come home, and nobody will disagree with you. On the other hand, they may berate you that you haven’t been sufficiently tough on him.

But if you insist on badmouthing Obama on a Canadian forum (and baseless, partisan badmouthing at that), don’t be surprised if you are challenged by Canadians.
 
Walter
-2
#63
Obama 'very proud' of rescue effort


President Obama, appearing at the Department of Transportation today, briefly commented on the successful rescue of Capt. Richard Phillips from the hands of pirates.
The president said he was "very proud" of the efforts of the U.S. military and other departments and agencies during the operation.
Obama also said that his administration is resolved to halt the rise of piracy. (To be accurate, the president actually misspoke and said "to halt the rise of privacy," but his intent was clear.)
To fight the pirates along the Horn of Africa, the president said the United States must work with its partners to prevent future attacks and to "continue to be prepared to confront them when they arise, and to ensure that those that commit acts of piracy are held accountable for their crimes."

What a doofus. Imagine Bush having misspoke like that.
 
Kreskin
#64
Any chance he could be Knighted soon?
 
ironsides
No Party Affiliation
#65
Ok, lets leave him alone.

Friends of the U.S. Chamber

Not
 
DaSleeper
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Any chance he could be Knighted soon?

Naah! That would mean he would have to Bow to the Queen....

Thanx for the set-up
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#67
''He {Reagan} hasn't been Prez for twenty frickin years. ''

Hey genius -- your fellow far right loonies contiune to blame Clinton for 9/11 by pretending he refused OBL's extradition when no offer was made. Where was your criticism, then??
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#68
''Imagine Bush having misspoke like that. ''


He did when he said ''mission accomplished''.

Remember?

 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

''He {Reagan} hasn't been Prez for twenty frickin years. ''

Hey genius -- your fellow far right loonies contiune to blame Clinton for 9/11 by pretending he refused OBL's extradition when no offer was made. Where was your criticism, then??

Before you call me or anybody else a "far right loonie" you should check out the "Canada More Democratic Than the US?" thread....

Canada more democratic than the U.S.?

...and read some of the results from the political compass. It may help you in the future to not look so silly with this "far right" nonsense.

As for Clinton being responsible for 9/11, that has nothing to do with your blind hatred for Reagan and Bush. You kinda sound like my kids with the "ya but they did it too" crap. I laugh when they try and pull that. My kids are twelve. What's your excuse?
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#70
All you are telling me is that it's OK to play the blame game so long as a Democrat is the target. But the reality is that it is your Republican heroes who deserve the blame for all the screw ups you see today like it or not.

Your kids may be 12 but I bet they are smarter than you.
 
SirJosephPorter
No Party Affiliation
#71
What a doofus. Imagine Bush having misspoke like that.

Walter, imagine? Why imagine? Bush misspoke like that literally hundreds of times. My son (who is a Liberal), had a calendar with Bush quotes, 365 quotes, one for each day. This included his ‘misunderestimate’, ‘nucular’ and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Obama is a model of elocution, a model of perfect diction compared to Bush.
 
SirJosephPorter
No Party Affiliation
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Naah! That would mean he would have to Bow to the Queen....

Thanx for the set-up

I don’t think so, DaSleeper. Protocol calls for him to kneel before the Queen, for him to be knighted, not bow to the Queen.

And knighthood for Obama is not at all out of the question, after he is done with being the President, four or eight years form now.
 
SirJosephPorter
No Party Affiliation
#73
All you are telling me is that it's OK to play the blame game so long as a Democrat is the target.

Why certainly, gopher. Blame game is legitimate only as long as a Democrat (or a Liberal in Canada) is the target. Let me explain to you how this works.

Whatever good happens during a Democratic administration, it is because of the preceding Republican administration. Whatever bad happens during a Republican administration is because of the previous (and sometimes the future) Democratic administration.

Thus, 9/11 was the fault of Clinton. Dot com meltdown was caused by Clinton (and Carter, I don’t think conservatives would go as far back as Johnson in their trashing game). Katrina disaster? Clinton was responsible, of course. Sub prime crises? Clinton again. He forced the banks to lend to blacks, that is what caused the sub prime crises, them uppity blacks getting mortgages which they had no right to.

Credit crunch? Again, fault of Clinton and Obama. Clinton by his policies caused a delayed reaction, so that credit crunch occurred under Bush watch. Obama talked down the economy to get elected. Bush is blameless. See how it works?

It works the same way in Canada. Thus listening to conservatives, Mulroney was the best PM we have had for a long time (well, close, the current Messiah is almost as good). The huge deficit during Mulroney era was caused by Trudeau. The corruption, patronage, sleaze in Mulroney year, Trudeau was responsible for that (Trudeau set the example, poor Mulroney was merely following him). Trudeau also was responsible for the horrible economic mess during Mulroney times.

The economic prosperity during Chrétien years was due to Mulroney. Chrétien was the worst PM we have ever had (well, close, Trudeau, Martin were as bad). Mulroney brought in the GST. That was responsible for magically evaporating all the deficit, during Chrétien years.

Then Chrétien’s mismanagement of economy caused the Messiah to run huge deficits. The reason healthy surpluses turned into astronomical deficits during Messiah’s times was the bad, terrible economic decisions made by Chrétien and Martin (and possibly Trudeau).

See how it works? You are a novice in the art of politics. This is how a sophisticated conservative argues.

Now you may think I am being facetious, but I have seen most of these arguments seriously put forth by conservatives.
 
Kreskin
#74
Bush wasn't able to string two sentences together until his second term. It was funny for a while but, in the end, far more sad than funny.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#75
''You are a novice in the art of politics''


Not really. If I'm a novice at all it is only regarding Canadian politics.

Nobody on this forum knows USA politics better than I do. But what amazes me is how these far right Canadian delusionals think they know the subject better than me. And if you recall, the forum mods wanted to assign Colpy as mod of the USA forum here as if he knew the subject better than I do!

How the hell is Colpy or anyone else here going to know USA politics better than me?


I mentioned on another thread that the far right RealCities forums were closed down because the far right delusionals gave up on defending the Republican party stupidity. Despite that, Canadian Republican wannabes on this forum are continuing the lies and horsesh/t propaganda that their Yankee counterparts gave up on.

If there as any truth to those Republican lies, McCain would have won in November and the Pukies would have a clear majority in the Congress. But they didn't. Why do you suppose this is so?

Because the majority of Americans are fed up with the lies, stupidities, and warmongering of the Republicans. And that majority is growing every day whether any of the far right delusionals here like it or not.
Last edited by gopher; Apr 13th, 2009 at 10:24 PM..
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Before you call me or anybody else a "far right loonie" you should check out the "Canada More Democratic Than the US?" thread....

Canada more democratic than the U.S.?

...and read some of the results from the political compass. It may help you in the future to not look so silly with this "far right" nonsense.

As for Clinton being responsible for 9/11, that has nothing to do with your blind hatred for Reagan and Bush. You kinda sound like my kids with the "ya but they did it too" crap. I laugh when they try and pull that. My kids are twelve. What's your excuse?


That Political Compass was fun....and a bit of an eye opener...
not everyone did it, but those that did and posted their results
all seemed to be as surprised as I was with my own results...
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Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

All you are telling me is that it's OK to play the blame game so long as a Democrat is the target.

Not at all. I'm saying Reagan was twenty years ago. Get over it.

Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

But the reality is that it is your Republican heroes who deserve the blame for all the screw ups you see today like it or not.

Not my Republican heroes. Repeating this nonsense over and over again doesn't make it true and not everybody that disagrees with you loves Republicans. I understand your need to see things in black and white though. Some people just can't handle complex thought processes.

Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

Your kids may be 12 but I bet they are smarter than you.

That may very well be. What I do know is that they are far more mature than you.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#78
Here's that Political Compass: The Political Compass


It'll look something like this:



I'm somewhere between Ghandi and an Orange...but not too
far from LoneWolf & Colpy & Cannuck over on the Left.
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Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Bush wasn't able to string two sentences together until his second term. It was funny for a while but, in the end, far more sad than funny.


You have that backwards.

YouTube - An Eloquent George Bush

 
Francis2004
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

Here's that Political Compass: The Political Compass


It'll look something like this:



I'm somewhere between Ghandi and an Orange...but not too
far from LoneWolf & Colpy & Cannuck over on the Left.
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Hey Ron, that sucks as I was right by that Lemon..
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

Nobody on this forum knows USA politics better than I do.

LOL - my big toe knows more about USA politics (in fact politics of any country) than you do. If you could actually counter an argument without mislabeling people as far-right or some other version of your childish name calling, you just might come off sounding much less like a cartoon character.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by SirFrancis2004View Post

Hey Ron, that sucks as I was right by that Lemon..


If I remember correctly, Stephen Harper was about the
same place as the cherry.
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Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

This is how a sophisticated conservative argues

It's also how those on the far left argue. This is what you and gopher can not comprehend. The radicals on the left and the radicals on the right use the exact same techniques. The reality is that you two are two of the biggest culprits on this forum. If you weren't actually doing that which you condemn, it wouldn't be as funny though.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#84
Childish name calling?

On the one hand you insult me and then compare me with your kids. I guess you have no respect for any of us.

As for name calling, I should give you a photo copy of the insults I have gotten when your fellow right wingers give me bad rep points.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#85
''Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.''


You were saying?
 
Francis2004
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

If I remember correctly, Stephen Harper was about the
same place as the cherry.
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Well Harper and I are both far apart but then again was that Don Cherry

Do we know where Ignatieff, Layton and May fell ?
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#87
One thing more Cannuck, just in case you hadn't noticed,


''Right and far right have a visceral hatred of Obama. They decided long time ago that he is a Muslim terrorist, a Fascist, a Communist, a Socialist, an illegal alien and so on. He has been compared to Stalin, to Hitler, to practically every dictator imaginable. To my knowledge, no far right columnist has compared him to Mao, but give them time.''


Where was your criticism when the far right made all these insults of Obama?

How convenient of you not to notice.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

How convenient of you not to notice.

Who said I didn't notice? Who said I didn't criticize those people.

Doesn't really matter though. You are trying to make this about what others are doing again and it's because you can't really defend what you are doing. Your only comeback to me is that Reagan is my hero and I'm far right. This is despite the fact that I have indicated that I am left of center and posted the political compass link to back that up. You have zero credibility on this forum and will continue to have zero credibility until such time as your raise your debate to at least the high school level.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#89
''You have zero credibility on this forum and will continue to have zero credibility until such time as your raise your debate to at least the high school level. ''


I suppose that's why you pay so much attention to what I write.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

On the one hand you insult me and then compare me with your kids. I guess you have no respect for any of us.

I've compared your maturity level to my kids. If you don't like it, start acting like an adult.

Quote:

As for name calling, I should give you a photo copy of the insults I have gotten when your fellow right wingers give me bad rep points.

Have you bothered to read the last dozen posts before you commented? Do you consider me right wing because I think you are foolish and childish? Or do you just have a problem understanding Canadian?
 

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