The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Stretch

Free Thinker

#181

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Apr 17th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

Don't you ever get sick of reading those blackhawk helicopter sites?

Blackhawks! you no something about them...?????!!!

Stretch

Free Thinker

#182

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Apr 17th, 2009

The Obama presidency is becoming a reverse fairy tale: The prince is turning into a frog.
Elected as an anti-war candidate, he has dispatched 21,000 more troops to Afghanistan, stepped up CIA drone killings in Pakistan, and given the order for the world's most sophisticated navy to blow away three pirates in a skiff. Like his predecessor, the current Chider-in-Chief has lectured European nations on their failure to supply more troops to the mission. Don't they know NATO is just another American division?
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SirJosephPorter

No Party Affiliation

#183

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Apr 17th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

There's probaby more anti-Obama hate on this forum than anywhere else.

Not a shred of proof on any claim made here, but lot's of laughable crap talk.

BTW, a note for Stretch --- your hero the Shrub John Howard lost because of his loyalty to Bush. Let's hear a word or two about that.

The right and far right have a visceral hatred of Obama. They hate Obama even more than they hated Clinton, if such a thing is possible.

And I can understand the reason for their hatred. Just two years ago, far right had absolute control, absolute stranglehold on all seats of power. Far right could do pretty much anything they wanted, enact pretty much anything they wanted into a law (as they did in Terry Schivo case). Presidency, Congress, Supreme Court all were Republican controlled.

While they lost in 2006, the losses were not bigger than expected. The party in power typically loses 25 to 30 seats in the House and 5 to 10 seats in the Senate during the second midterm. So by usual standards, the Republican losses were not excessive in 2006. And they still had the Presidency.

They probably hoped to reverse the losses in 2008. They were hoping that McCain would win. While McCain was not their man, the VP candidate, Joan of Arc definitely was. With McCain in power, Joan of Arc (who is even more conservative than Bush) would be the real power behind throne.

All their hopes were dashed by Obama. He really took them to cleaners in 2008. Obama kicked ass in 2008 big time. 2008 was a disastrous election for right and far right. Not only Obama won, he had wide coattails. He brought many Senators and Congressmen with him. Now right has nothing, they are out in the wilderness. They are not used to being in the wilderness, they are used to President and Congress regard their word as Gospel truth, their wish was Bush’s command. Obama changed all that, big time.

So I can see why right and far right is desperate to get Obama out of office. One tactic is to try to get the courts to declare him a Muslim terrorist, an illegal alien and have him imprisoned or deported. That doesn’t seem to go anywhere.

The other tactic is to trash Obama for any reason at all, real or imagined. So right cooks up all kinds of fantasies about Obama. They somehow try to convince us that he is Hitler and Stalin, a Nazi and a Communist at the same time.

Their tactics on this forum and elsewhere are amusing to watch. It makes for a good fiction reading.

gopher

No Party Affiliation

#184

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Apr 18th, 2009

Aren't those far right clowns a laugh?

If Obama was such a fascist as those idiots say he is, why hasn't he arrested them and sent them off to a Dachau or an Auchwitz? Why hasn't he burned down their houses or arrested so much as one person for imagined crimes against the state?

The hate campaign is what backfired in the November election. And it will make things worse for those unpatriotic traitors.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#185

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 12th, 2009

more nchange we can believe in.................

Obama Blocks Probes into Afghan Massacre

'The US administration has repeatedly blocked probes into alleged mass killing of Afghan war prisoners by a US-backed Afghan warlord during the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. The New York Times quoted Friday US government and human rights officials as saying that the Bush administration had failed to investigate the mass executions of up to 2,000 Taliban POW's by the forces of General Abdul Rashid Dostum in September 2001.
Meanwhile, Obama administration officials said Friday they had no grounds to investigate into the case because only foreigners were involved and the alleged massacre occurred in a foreign country.'

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See the documentary 'Afghan Massacre: Convoy of Death' here...

Machjo

#186

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 12th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorter

MIT, who smokes? Does Obama smoke, in the sense that he is hot? Or does Stretch smoke in the sense that he is high on something?

No, he smokes cigarettes. But apparently he does not smoke them in the presence of his children and is trying to quit at the moment, supposedly cutting down, or so he mentioned in an interview once.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#187

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 20th, 2009

Obama Signs Executive Order Barring Release Of His Birth Certificate
'Thanks to the alertness of our great friend and loyal supporter Erica, who gave us the heads-up on this. it appears that the issue of Obama being forced to produce a copy of his birth certificate may prove to be extremely difficult, if not impossible. On January 21st, 2009, his very first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489.'
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SirJosephPorter

No Party Affiliation

#188

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 20th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch

Obama Signs Executive Order Barring Release Of His Birth Certificate
'Thanks to the alertness of our great friend and loyal supporter Erica, who gave us the heads-up on this. it appears that the issue of Obama being forced to produce a copy of his birth certificate may prove to be extremely difficult, if not impossible. On January 21st, 2009, his very first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489.'
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Stretch, Obama does not need an executive order to bar the release of his birth certificate. His birth certificate cannot be released without his permission (same as yours cannot be released without your permission).

I don’t know about the executive order, but that is a non issue. The only way Obama’s birth certificate can be released is by his permission, there are privacy issues involved. The executive order is just something brought up by the right wing conspiracy nuts (who are convinced that Obama is an illegal alien and a Muslim terrorist).

darkbeaver

Republican

#189

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 21st, 2009

Obama this Obama that. Just watching his approval numbers tank is fun as the citizens clue in to the scam while the wheels come off the hope and change bandwagon and Saint Obama is revealed as just another bought and paid for political dogturd who can read if it's kept simple. The rest of the clued in political world can barely keep from pissing on him instead of shakeing his soft delicate hand.

petros

#190

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 21st, 2009

Quote:

The Obama presidency is becoming a reverse fairy tale: The prince is turning into a frog.

This is how things unfold in a scripted world. Think about it....Wall Street crashes the economy while at the very same time the very people who crashed **** are being elected and appointed to commanding posts in D.C.

Nah, nothing odd there at all.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#191

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Mr. President, We Have a Problem

'On this week's 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, President Obama praised the pioneering American astronauts and recalled his own childhood memories in Hawaii of NASA capsules splashing down in the Pacific.
But Houston, we have a problem. The president actually lived in Indonesia in 1969.
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Stretch

Free Thinker

#192

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

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George W. Bush announced the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza at the United Nations General Assembly on September 14, 2005, placing the US under UN and WHO law in the event of a pandemic “emergency”.
Earlier that year, in April, 2005, Barack Obama introduced the first comprehensive bill to deal with the bird flu threat, the Avian act. According to reports, Obama made significant investments in biotech companies involved in the development of bird and swine flu.

Webmaster's Commentary:
In theory, Obama's investments are in a blind trust and can be anywhere, but as we learned in the Clinton years, Presidents have a way of avoiding that blind trust requirement!
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JLM

No Party Affiliation

#193

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch

What are Obama’s investments in biotech companies apparently developing the “bird” and “swine” flu vaccine?
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George W. Bush announced the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza at the United Nations General Assembly on September 14, 2005, placing the US under UN and WHO law in the event of a pandemic “emergency”.
Earlier that year, in April, 2005, Barack Obama introduced the first comprehensive bill to deal with the bird flu threat, the Avian act. According to reports, Obama made significant investments in biotech companies involved in the development of bird and swine flu.
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Let's not split hairs, it's all in the Pacific Ocean, perhaps he was holidaying in Hawaii. Or perhaps he just got it mixed up with another event.

JLM

No Party Affiliation

#194

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorter

Stretch, Obama does not need an executive order to bar the release of his birth certificate. His birth certificate cannot be released without his permission (same as yours cannot be released without your permission).

I don’t know about the executive order, but that is a non issue. The only way Obama’s birth certificate can be released is by his permission, there are privacy issues involved. The executive order is just something brought up by the right wing conspiracy nuts (who are convinced that Obama is an illegal alien and a Muslim terrorist).

S.J. People of Obama's stature are always wide open to bad publicity, in fact if there wasn't any we'd know something was drastically wrong. Long live Obama.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#195

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Let's not split hairs, it's all in the Pacific Ocean, perhaps he was holidaying in Hawaii. Or perhaps he just got it mixed up with another event.

perhaps...........but I remember exactly where I was when on that day, do you?

SirJosephPorter

No Party Affiliation

#196

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

Obama this Obama that. Just watching his approval numbers tank is fun as the citizens clue in to the scam while the wheels come off the hope and change bandwagon and Saint Obama is revealed as just another bought and paid for political dogturd who can read if it's kept simple. The rest of the clued in political world can barely keep from pissing on him instead of shakeing his soft delicate hand.

The far right hates Obama with a passion, he gives them apoplexy. They hated Clinton with a passion, they even impeached him on a trumped up, political charge. But it didn’t work, far right was never really able to convince Americans at large that Clinton is a spawn of the Devil. Clinton left office with approval rating of 65 % (as opposed to he Messiah of the extreme right, Bush, who left office with approval rating of 28%).

But their hate towards Clinton pales in comparison with their visceral hatred of Obama. Now Obama haters are rejoicing that his approval rating has slipped. Well, it is customary for a president’s approval rating to drop six months into his term. When a president starts, he has plenty of good will for him. But as soon as he starts implementing his agenda, his approval drops especially among those who don’t like his agenda. Even though his approval rating is about where it was for Clinton and Bush at this time in their terms, to listen to far right, Obama is finished, done for, kaput.

That is to be expected. It remains to be seen if the extreme right wing nuts can convince Americans that Obama is a spawn of the Devil, that he is a Muslim terrorist, an illegal alien. Personally, my money is on Obama.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#197

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

hate is such a harsh word mate.....I dont hate him, I dont trust him, is all.
anyway....where were u when the eagle landed?

had a few people here in Qld Australia that bought their knighthoods for a $40 grand donation to the national party here in australia a few yrs back....kinda took the shine off of it if ya get me drift mate

SirJosephPorter

No Party Affiliation

#198

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

S.J. People of Obama's stature are always wide open to bad publicity, in fact if there wasn't any we'd know something was drastically wrong. Long live Obama.

I quite agree, JLM. Being passionately hated by the extremist nuts on the other side is part of the job.

Extreme right hated Clinton with a passion, they spent 100 million dollars of taxpayers money (in the form of conservative Republican, Kenneth Starr) trying to dig up some dirt on Clinton, they impeached him on a trumped up, political charge (a gross abuse of impeachment process), but nothing worked.

Clinton was a moderate, left of centre politician. Obama is a liberal and proud of it, and he makes no bones about it. The first time in recent memory Americans have elected a truly liberal president (what passes for liberal in USA anyway). Far right just cannot stand it. Indeed, I have seen some extreme right wing nuts say that they wished Hillary was the president, evidently extreme right would have preferred that to Obama being the president.

And this after calling Hillary Lucifer. If they would prefer Lucifer over Obama, you can imagine the intense, visceral, passionate hatred far right feels about Obama. They are probably seething with anger, ever since the day he was elected.

But as you rightly point out, it is all part of the job.

kennyw98

Democrat

#199

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

stop beating up on obama its like getting so old how can you dare talk bad about the best president in us history if mccian won there would be massive wars and the downturn in econmy that obama fixed would have been full blown depression if bush stayd or mccain won obama is a peoples candidate he is here to help dont you guys know hes going to give you tax credits and make school free for your kids i dont get all this hate

Stretch

Free Thinker

#200

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by kennyw98

stop beating up on obama its like getting so old how can you dare talk bad about the best president in us history if mccian won there would be massive wars and the downturn in econmy that obama fixed would have been full blown depression if bush stayd or mccain won obama is a peoples candidate he is here to help dont you guys know hes going to give you tax credits and make school free for your kids i dont get all this hate

he fixed?

JLM

No Party Affiliation

#201

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by kennyw98

stop beating up on obama its like getting so old how can you dare talk bad about the best president in us history if mccian won there would be massive wars and the downturn in econmy that obama fixed would have been full blown depression if bush stayd or mccain won obama is a peoples candidate he is here to help dont you guys know hes going to give you tax credits and make school free for your kids i dont get all this hate

Now now now now now- There is a slight possbility he will prove to be the greatest U.S. president after 8 years in office. Until then he has some pretty formidable opposition in Abe Lincoln, Harry Truman, Ronnie Reagan and several more. (possibly not G.W.B.)

AnnaG

#202

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

lol I just read this in the opening post: "....hailed the election of Barack Obama as a 'historic moment'....".

Someone tell me please when a US prez or, for that matter, any country's prez was elected and didn't make the history books.

AnnaG

#203

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Now now now now now- There is a slight possbility he will prove to be the greatest U.S. president after 8 years in office. Until then he has some pretty formidable opposition in Abe Lincoln, Harry Truman, Ronnie Reagan and several more. (possibly not G.W.B.)

Reagan? Is this the same Reagan that sent thousands of troops into El Salvador to aid an oppressive gov't in keeping the heels of its boots on the throats of the public and lied to the American people that things were improving in El Salvador? The same Reagan who swallowed the CIA's "intelligence" that the El Salvadoran gov't was fighting communist guerrillas from taking over?

SirJosephPorter

No Party Affiliation

#204

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Reagan? Is this the same Reagan that sent thousands of troops into El Salvador to aid an oppressive gov't in keeping the heels of its boots on the throats of the public and lied to the American people that things were improving in El Salvador? The same Reagan who swallowed the CIA's "intelligence" that the El Salvadoran gov't was fighting communist guerrillas from taking over?

Don't forget the Iran Contra scandal.

AnnaG

#205

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 24th, 2009

Oh yeah, the deal in Nicaragua, too. Yep, Reagan was a real sweetheart.

gopher

No Party Affiliation

#206

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 25th, 2009

Reagan = ''I am a Contra''

Which, of course, was a self admitted terrorist group that undermined a democratically elected government.

darkbeaver

Republican

#207

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 25th, 2009

Whos president is Obama?

Cliffy

Free Thinker

#208

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 25th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

Whos president is Obama?

Evil bankers?

ironsides

No Party Affiliation

#209

Re: The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

Jul 29th, 2009

A -- poll about presidential greatness, taken 11 February 2005, asked 800 adults nationwide, "Thinking about all the presidents of the United States throughout history to the present, who would you say was America's greatest president?"--

Abraham Lincoln (20%)
Ronald Reagan (15%)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (12%)
John F. Kennedy (11%)
Bill Clinton (10%)
Other/Don't Know (9%)
George W. Bush (8%)
George Washington (6%)
Theodore Roosevelt (3%)
Dwight Eisenhower (3%)
Jimmy Carter (2%)
Thomas Jefferson (2%)
Richard Nixon (1%)
John Adams (<1%)
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-- about presidential greatness, taken February 9–11, 2007, asked 1006 adults nationwide, "Who do you regard as the greatest United States president?"--