The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

ummmm who the hell do you think this thread is about.......

The subject of the thread is irrelevant, Stretch. When somebody puts up post after post on the same subject, seven of them in a row (or seven out of eight), at least to me that indicates an obsession.

the thread is about obama...posting something about someone else would be irrelevant....

Must be part of his plan for his reptilian overlord masters.

Don't worry though, I have the "V" Miniseries on DVD I'll just watch them to figure out how the repitilians were beaten in the 80s

He definitely has a 'hate on', oh well, guess everyone has to 'think' in someway.
I will check back in about a year when Obama has actually become the president,
and is in office, and has had a year or so to put some of his plans to work, there
is nothing to complaign about right now, he isn't president yet.
I'll be back here in a year, have fun.

I'd give it 3 months mate, you should be able to tell by then...........

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President–elect Barack Obama blew the first opportunity that had come his way to show that unlike his predecessors, he was going to adopt a more even-handed approach to the Palestine question by choosing to keep quiet after savage Israeli airstrikes across Gaza.
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crap, I may have been too generous with the give it 3 months comment....what say you talloola?
Gaza burns, Obama golfs...

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Shhhh! As the world waits for Obama to voice his opinion on Gaza, America's president-in-waiting hits the golf course
Barack Obama remained silent over the violence in Gaza as Israel today threatened to continue its attacks for weeks.
Instead, the president-elect is continuing his 12-day Christmas holiday in Hawaii and was seen enjoying a round of golf.
He joined a group of friends at a private club near his £6million rented, beach-front holiday home in Hawaii yesterday.
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Shhhh! As the world waits for Obama to voice his opinion on Gaza, America's president-in-waiting hits the golf course | Mail Online

Stretch,

This is just the beginning. The Obama cultists are in for a rude awakening in the not too distant future. My prediction: nothing will change.
Besides, if Obama did say something even close to condemning Israels attack, he would be labeled an anti-Semite and his Zionist backers would drop him like a nuclear bomb.

The Floodgates Open Wide: Obama and our Eugenical Future ....................

Obama and the Resurrection of the UNFPA

During his November 4, 2008 presidential acceptance speech, Barack Obama declared: “[C]hange has come to America.” Yet, Obama neglected to mention that not all of the changes in store for America, or the world in general, are positive. One of the more sinister changes the Obama Administration intends to introduce is a revival of eugenical regimentation.
In a 2007 questionnaire prepared by RH Reality Check, a pro-abortion organization, the Obama Campaign stated: “Senator Obama would overturn the global gag rule and reinstate funding for UNFPA” (Lynch, "Sen. Barack Obama's RH Issues Questionnaire"). Representative Carolyn Maloney would later express her confidence in the Obama promise to fund the UNFPA during a press conference at the National Press Club (Starr, "Congresswoman Confident Obama Will Fund UNFPA, Which Supports China's Coercive Abortion Program"). The conference, which highlighted the release of the 2008 UN report on the state of the world’s population, gave Maloney an opportunity to take the podium and declare that the Obama Administration would reinstate funding for the UNFPA (ibid).
China

The crimes and faults of the Bush regime are almost too many to count. That being said, the Bush Administration’s restriction of UNFPA funding was well-justified. When one looks at the UNFPA’s track record, it could be argued that drying up the UNFPA’s money well was one of those rare moments of clarity that have appeared on the radar over the last eight years. The decision was motivated by a report prepared by the Population Research Institute (PRI) entitled “UNFPA, China, and Coercive Family Planning” (Ertelt, "Group Confirms Obama Would Fund Forced Abortions if UNFPA Money Restored"). According to LifeNews.com editor Steven Ertelt, the report “is based on an investigation conducted by PRI researchers in China’s Sihui County” (ibid). While many in the liberal camp want to believe that the report was a concocted fantasy, nothing could be further from the truth. Ertelt elaborates:

Relying on interviews with over two dozen victims and witnesses, the 2001 investigation found that coercive abortion and sterilization practices were taking place where the UNFPA had supposedly instituted a “client-centered and voluntary family planning program.” In fact, PRI’s investigation discovered that the UNFPA shared an office with the very Chinese family planning officials who were carrying out forced abortions. (ibid)

The investigation’s findings were so egregious that they motivated Colin Powell, who was Bush’s Secretary of State at the time, to conduct his own investigation (ibid). Powell’s research team confirmed PRI’s findings and Powell recommended that the Bush Administration revoke UNFPA funding (ibid). It is ironic that such a prescription would come from a man who would go on to cast his lot in with the Obama camp. Apparently, the revelations were too damning for even Powell to ignore.
Albania

China was not the only target of the UNFPA’s eugenics efforts. In 1999, the UNFPA sent 350,000 “Emergency Reproduction Health Kits” to Albania (Makimaa, 35). Joseph Meaney, a representative of Human Life International, had an opportunity to inspect the UNFPA’s kits. Meaney found these “health” packages to be filled with condoms, birth control pills, “morning after” pills, intrauterine devices, and manual vacuum aspirators used in early term abortions (35). According to a 1995 UN document discussing “refugee situations,” the packages were originally labeled “Pregnancy Termination” kits (35). The UN document further stated that the euphemistic labels were necessary to “reduce the risk of offending sensitivities” (35). But all the spin and euphemisms in the world could not conceal the UNFPA’s eugenics agenda. An office of Marie Stopes International, an organization dedicated to birth control, was even established in Pristina with the assistance of the UNFPA (35)
Doctor Enzo Ferrara, a physician employed at a hospital in Scutari, Albania during the UNFPA’s eugenical crusade, was outraged by the secret sterilization campaign being carried out against Albanians with the aid of the UN Her protests were met with a shocking response from Albania’s Ministry of Health: “We have accepted international aid on condition of reducing births” (35).
Why would the UN desire to reduce births in places like Albania and China? During the eighties, a criminal named Willie Horton became famous when he stated: “I rob banks because that’s where the money is.” The same principle applies here. The power elite standing behind the UN and its appendages such as the UNFPA have targeted places like Albania and China for eugenical regimentation because that is where they believe the “inferiors” reside.
The Eugenical Heritage of the UN

It should come as little surprise that the UN actively supports and finances eugenical practices. The organization’s eugenical heritage is made evident by the ideological pedigree of those who worked to form it. A majority of the framers of the UN Charter were members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Lawrence Shoup and William Minter document the role of the CFR in the UN’s inception:

The planning of the United Nations can be traced to the secret steering committee established by Secretary Hull January 1943. This informal Agenda Group, as it was later called, was composed of Hull, Davis, Taylor, Bowman, Pasvolsky, and until he left the government in August 1943, Welles. All of them, with the exception of Hull, were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They saw Hull regularly to plan, select, and guide the labors of the Department’s Advisory Committee. It was, in effect, the coordinating agency for all the State Department postwar planning…
In late 1943, the Agenda Group began to draft the U.S. proposal for a United Nations organization to maintain international peace and security. The position eventually taken at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference was prepared during the seven-month period from December 1943 to July 1944. Once the group had produced a draft for the United Nations and Hull had approved it, the Secretary requested three distinguished lawyers to rule on its constitutionality. Myron C. Taylor, now on the Council’s board of directors, was Hull’s intermediary to Charles Evans Hughes, retired chief justice of the Supreme Court, John W. Davis, Democratic presidential candidate in 1924, and Nathan L. Miller, former Republican governor of New York. Hughes and Davis were both Council members and John W. Davis had served as president of the Council from 1921 to 1933 and a director since 1921. The three approved the plan, and on 15 June 1944. Hull, Stettinius, Davis, Bowman, and Pasvolsky discussed the draft with President Roosevelt. The chief executive gave his consent and issued a statement to the American people that afternoon.
Although the Charter of the United Nations underwent some modification in negotiations with other nations at the Dumbarton Oaks and San Francisco conferences during 1944 and 1945, one historian concluded that “the substance of the provisions finally written into the Charter in many cases reflected conclusions reached at much earlier stages by the United States government.” The Department of State was clearly in charge of these propositions within the U.S. government, and the role of the Council on Foreign Relations within the Department of State was, in turn, very great indeed. The Council’s power was unrivaled. (149-50)

The CFR’s involvement in the formation of the UN ensured the international entity’s usefulness as a conduit for elitist interests. The CFR was merely a stateside branch of the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA) (Quigley 132-33). In turn, the RIIA was founded by the Round Table Groups (132-33). These Round Table Groups owed their existence to a directive presented in the last will and testament of genocidal British imperialist Cecil Rhodes. This directive mandated the formation of a secret network committed to the imperialist objectives of the British Empire. Rhodes’ Weltanschauung was inspired by a speech delivered by John Ruskin at Oxford in 1870. Carroll Quigley synopsizes Ruskin’s message:

Ruskin spoke to the Oxford undergraduates as members of the privileged ruling class. He told them that they were possessors of a magnificent tradition of education, beauty, rule of law, freedom, decency, and self-discipline, but that this tradition could not be saved, and did not deserve to be saved, unless it could be extended to the lower classes in England itself and to the non-English masses throughout the world. If this precious tradition were not extended to these two great majorities, the minority of upper class Englishmen would ultimately be submerged by these majorities and the tradition lost. To prevent this, the tradition must be extended to the masses and to the empire. (130)

Two characteristically oligarchic themes can be identified within Ruskin’s speech. First, Ruskin’s contention that the British ruling class possessed a “magnificent tradition of education, beauty, rule of law, freedom, decency, and self-discipline” echoes the eugenical contention that there is a superior stock of man culturally and genetically preordained to dominate the mass of brutes. Second, Ruskin’s contention that the lower class and non-English majorities could demographically overwhelm the upper class minority reiterates the oligarchic preoccupation with fertility differential. Historically, the ruling elite have consistently struggled with demographic disparities. Simply stated, they have always been outnumbered. Needless to say, greater numbers of people are more difficult to control.
This disproportion was made evident by a study conducted by the Royal Commission on Population in 1944. Formed by King George VI to examine the declining fertility rates in the British Commonwealth, the Commission observed that the demographic implosion advanced “fastest among the higher occupational categories” (qutd. in Jones 536). Apparently, a distinct fertility differential was making itself evident along socioeconomic demarcations. According to the Commission’s official report, it was the aristocracy that was demographically receding:

“Of the social groups, those with the highest incomes, and among individual parents within each social group, the better educated and the more intelligent, have smaller families on the average than others. We are not in a position to evaluate the expert evidence submitted to us to the effect that there is inherent in this differential birth rate a tendency towards lowering the average level of intelligence of the nation, but there is here an issue of the first important which needs to be thoroughly studied.” (Qutd. in Jones 536)

This fertility differential was attributable to the oligarchs’ tradition of “deliberate family limitation” (qutd. in Jones 535). Historically, the ruling class has maintained insular bloodlines through detestable practices, including inbreeding. The demographic costs of such practices were becoming evident. Not surprisingly, Malthusianism and its theoretical correlative, Darwinism, were promoted by scientific minds within elite quarters. The paradigms of Malthusianism and Darwinism were formulated according to the sociological considerations of the ruling elite. Out of these two “scientific” theories would emerge the socially and politically expedient concept of eugenical population control.
It is with fertility differential that one identifies the true rationale underpinning population control. E. Michael summarizes this rationale:

The ideology of population control is, simply a combination of fact #1: people produce economic wealth and military power, and fact #2: the affluent have smaller families. The English upper classes converted to Darwinism at the same time that they stopped having large families. As a result, they began to be concerned about something they referred to as “differential fertility,” which meant that while the “best people” (i.e., people of class) limited the size of their families, the rest of the world, especially the pullulating races of the Southern Hemisphere, did not. As good Darwinians they realized that the population with the higher fertility rate would eventually replace the population with lower fertility rate. Out of that fearful realization the idea of population control was born. (536)

Simply stated, population control is camouflaged class warfare. In truth, the oligarchs are not concerned with carrying capacity. Ultimately, they are concerned with the capacity of their control. Recognizing the demographic disparities between the British ruling class and the commoners, Ruskin admonished Oxford audiences to extend the oligarhical tradition to the “lower classes in England itself and to the non-English masses throughout the world.” It was this imperialistic message that would inspire Rhodes’ campaign of colonial warfare in Africa and the later formation of the Round Table Groups. The continuity of this message was preserved through the RIIA and the CFR. With the CFR’s creation of the UN, the agendas of eugenical regimentation and population control found a channel for global implementation. Claire Chambers summarizes: “Since its inception, the U.N. has advanced a world-wide program of population control, scientific human breeding, and Darwinism” (3)
Demographic Bloodletting: The Hemorrhage of World Population

It’s not hard to detect that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach when you realize that the Rubicon no longer lies ahead, but is trailing off into the distance behind you. Perceptive observers of the political and social landscape experienced just such a feeling when they learned of Obama’s intentions to revitalize the UNFPA. The cases of China and Albania painfully illustrate that such a move is tantamount to funding forced abortions, stealth sterilizations, and anti-natal campaigns. Obama could not select a worst time in human history to restore eugenical practices. Underneath the multitude of neo-Malthusian voices warning of the dire consequences attached to unchecked population growth, there is the hissing sound of demographic deflation.
One of the first indications that the people bomb was fizzling out came in a 2001 article in Nature Magazine entitled “The end of population growth.” In the article, the authors concluded that there is “around an 85% chance that the world’s population will stop growing before the end of the century” (Lutz, Sanderson, and Scherbov). Furthermore, the authors predicted that the coming population decline “will pose major social and economic challenges” (ibid).
By 2004, the negative impact of the population implosion upon global economic, political, and social stability could no longer be ignored by national governments. David Frances describes the situation:

For decades, much has been written about the world’s exploding population. But 60 countries, about a third of all nations, have fertility rates today below 2.1 children per woman, the number necessary to maintain a stable population. Half of those nations have levels of 1.5 of less. In Armenia, Italy, South Korea, and Japan, average fertility levels are now close to one child per woman.
Barring unforeseen change, at least 43 of these nations will have smaller populations in 2050 than they do today. (“Now, dangers of a population implosion”)

Anxious governments, once eagerly involved in depopulation campaigns, were now desperately switching course and implementing measures that encouraged procreation. Francis listed some of those measures:

Starting this year, France’s government has been awarding mothers of each new baby 800 euros, almost $1,000. In Italy, the government is giving mothers of a second child 1,000 euros.
South Korea has expanded tax breaks for families with young children and is increasing support for day-care centers for working women. Last year parliament members in Singapore called on the government to do more to keep Cupid and the stork busy.
Japanese prefectures have been organizing hiking trips and cruises for single people – dating programs to halt the bust. (ibid)

All of these pro-natal measures were meant to prevent the baby dearth from having a serious affect on nations’ economic vitality, pension programs, and healthcare (ibid). Unfortunately, years of depopulation campaigns and eugenical regimentation carried out under the guise of “reproductive rights” have made some of the consequences unavoidable.
In the United States, the effects are already being felt with the “graying” of society. During an interview with one of the authors of this article, Judith Baker, an executive director with the Association of Lutheran Older Adults, stated that, for the first time in history, older adults outnumber teenagers (ibid). By 2011, there will be around 11,000 baby boomers turning 65 every day (ibid). Will these people be able to retire? Looting has left Social Security and pension programs insolvent, so it is highly unlikely that boomers will be leaving the work force any time soon. A decent amount of replacement births could have generated a labor force that could replenish the Social Security fund and pension programs. But, abortion and other eugenical practices have contributed to dismal replacement levels, so retirement may disappear entirely.
Working later in life will prove to be a challenge for many. According to Baker, 20% of people have to deal with an Instrumental Activities of Daily Living (IADL) limitation by age 75 (Baker). By age 85, one out of 3 men and 1 out of 2 women have one or more IADL limitations (ibid). For the older workers, these IADL limitations will instantly preclude several jobs that call for a lot of physical activity. This sad trend shows no sign of abating. In the next 20 years, there will be a 74 % increase in people over 50 and only a 1% increase in people under 50 (ibid).
When Obama financially reinvigorates the UNFPA, the floodgates of demographic catastrophe will be opened wide. With the UNFPA once again leading the power elite’s depopulation campaign, no amount of pro-natal measures will be effective in preventing serious complications stemming from the population implosion.
Sources Cited

• Baker, Judith. Telephone Interview. 27 October 2008
• Chambers, Claire. --. Appleton, Wisconsin: Western Islands, 1977
• Ertelt, Steven. "--" LifeNews.com 12 November 2008
• Francis, David R. “--” Christian Science Monitor 7 October 2004
• Jones, E. Michael. --. South Bend,Indiana: St. Augustine's Press, 2000.
• Lutz, Wolfgang and Warren Sanderson and Sergei Scherbov. "--" Nature.com 2 August 2001
• Lynch, Andrea. "--" RH Reality Check 21 December 2007
• Makimaa, Julie. "Wolf in 'Humanitarian' Clothing," New American 3 July 2000: 35-37.
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• Shoup, Lawrence H. and William Minter. "Shaping a New World Order: The Council on Foreign Relations' Blueprint for World Hegemony." --, Holly Sklar, ed., Boston: South End Press, 1980, 135-56.
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Phillip D. Collins acted as the editor for The Hidden Face of Terrorism. He co-authored the book The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship, which --. It is also available as an --. Phillip has also written articles for Paranoia Magazine, MKzine, News With Views, B.I.P.E.D.: The Official Website of Darwinian Dissent and Conspiracy Archive. He has also been interviewed on several radio programs, including A Closer Look, Peering Into Darkness, From the Grassy Knoll, Frankly Speaking, the ByteShow, and Sphinx Radio.
In 1999, Phillip earned an Associate degree of Arts and Science. In 2006, he earned a bachelor's degree with a major in communication studies and liberal studies along with a minor in philosophy. During the course of his seven-year college career, Phillip has studied philosophy, religion, political science, semiotics, journalism, theatre, and classic literature. He recently completed a collection of short stories, poetry, and prose entitled Expansive Thoughts. Readers can learn more about it at --.
Paul D. Collins has studied suppressed history and the shadowy undercurrents of world political dynamics for roughly eleven years. In 1999, he earned his Associate of Arts and Science degree. In 2006, he completed his bachelor's degree with a major in liberal studies and a minor political science. Paul has authored another book entitled The Hidden Face of Terrorism: The Dark Side of Social Engineering, From Antiquity to September 11. Published in November 2002, the book is available online from --, --, and also --. It can be purchased as an e-book (ISBN 1-4033-6798-1) or in paperback format (ISBN 1-4033-6799-X). Paul also co-authored --.

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Illinois Sen. Barack Obama delivered a speech on Wednesday, June 4, before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. The speech comes the day after he secured enough delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination and become the first African-American candidate for president.
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Obama’s deadly silence
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“I would like to ask President-elect Obama to say something please about the humanitarian crisis that is being experienced right now by the people of Gaza.” Former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney made her plea after disembarking from the badly damaged SS Dignity that had limped to the Lebanese port of Tyre while taking on water.
The small boat, carrying McKinney, the Green Party’s recent presidential candidate, other volunteers, and several tons of donated medical supplies, had been trying to reach the coast of Gaza when it was rammed by an Israeli gunboat in international
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"As The Forward reported on December 19, the in-coming Obama administration is receptive to JINSA demands. “In their first meeting with Jewish leaders Thursday, the Obama transition team proved that change is indeed on its way. For the first time in years, a full spectrum of Jewish groups sat around one table for a lengthy, detailed and civilized discussion about the future,” Nathan Guttman wrote. Representatives included the “hawkish ZOA and JINSA.” ZOA, short for the Zionist Organization of America, is specifically tasked with attacking critics of Israel nominated for important government positions and regularly ships off activists to Israel for leadership training programs."
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Surely the lesson cannot be lost on President-elect Barack Obama. That such violence can be waged on so defenseless a population with the support of the Bush Administration is unconscionable. That Obama chooses to remain silent is nothing short of cowardice.
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Obama's silence on the Gaza crisis grows more curious by the day; it has already cost him much political capital. He appears weak and ineffectual even before his inauguration, one more symbol of hope capitulating to the realpolitik of the ‘special' U.S./Israeli relationship.
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Unfortunately, Obama is missing in action in this first challenge to his Presidency. The Israelis have used his own words to justify their aggression, and Obama has responded with a deafening silence. This does not bode well for the future.
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Unfortunately, Obama is missing in action in this first challenge to his Presidency.

Stretch, this is not a challenge to Obama presidency, it is a challenge to Bush presidency, Bush is still the president. It is not Obama’s place to make policy pronouncements while not in office.

He spoke out against terrorist attacks in India, I think that was right and proper, Americans were killed in Indian attack, he had the right and duty to speak up as a private citizen.

Middle East, however, is a different story. It is not his job to make policy (and whatever he says will be construed as policy by the world) when he is not even in office. Currently it is Bush’s headache. After inauguration it will become Obama’s headache.

he wouldn't dare say anything against israel......

what the hell is the diff 'tween India and Gaza???

THIS.............. It's no small wonder that President Elect Barack Obama is keeping silent on the current round of wanton slaughter and destruction in Palestine. After all He had already made his position crystal clear when he --the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, otherwise known as "The Israeli Lobby", on June 4th of last year. There had been doubts amongst a portion of Jewish voters as to his fealty to Israel but in his opening statement he put those fears to rest.

"I want you to know that today I'll be speaking from my heart, and as a true friend of Israel. And I know that when I visit with AIPAC, I am among friends. Good friends. Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow and forever."

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he's just another israeli puppet!!

Amazing! Obama is being criticized and attacked to no end even though he isn't in office.

Bush remains president and people act as if he wasn't there.

Expect an endless array of attacks on Obama for the next four years. I guarantee that this entire board will be filled with thread after thread of attacks and endless criticism.

he's just another israeli puppet!!



Bush endlessly stood up for the Zionist regime during these past 8 years and not one person said anything like that in all this time.

true, but then, shrub didnt rant on and on about "change", he didnt base his campaign on "change",
and as it appears to be turning out....nothing is gunna change

shrub didnt rant on and on about "change", he didnt base his campaign on "change",



Hate to say it but you know less about USA politics than does Colpy.

Here is a summary of Bush's ''change'' pledges in 2000:

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If anything, it was FAR more ''revolutionary'' than Obama's pledges.

so....nothing has changed then.....

As the nation prepares for the inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama, a leading Democrat is not letting up in his criticism of President George W. Bush.
“I really do believe President Bush is the worst president we’ve ever had,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
Reid pointed to Bush’s failed plan to privatize the Social Security program and also said Bush “has done his very best to destroy Medicare” in order support his assessment of Bush’s presidency.
Asked by David Gregory if he had any regrets about his persistent criticism of Bush, Reid responded, “I am who I am.”
“I think you just have to call things the way you see them.”

the problem being that he fulfilled precious few of those "pledges" and at times directly contradicted them

"Bush promised a humble foreign policy with no nation building. He had criticized the Clinton-Gore Administration for being too interventionist: "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road. And I'm going to prevent that."

the problem being that he fulfilled precious few of those "pledges" and at times directly contradicted them

Tyr, Bush promised to be a uniter, he divided the country viciously and ruthlessly, in order to win elections. His and Rowe’s policy was to divided the country deliberately, split it right down the middle so that Bush can win by 50% + 1 votes. And it worked.

If you look at most other presidents (e.g. Reagan, Clinton) etc., they were uniters, they united the country behind them. Bush split the country right down the middle. It remains to be seen if Obama is able to unite the country. His initial moves have been promising (like inviting Pastor Rick Warren to give initial prayers at his inauguration).

But Bush will do down as a divider, who put his own partisan interests (winning the election by 50% + 1) above those of the country.

Quite right, Gopher, the same crowd that hated Clintons with a passion hates Obama even more intensely if such a thing is possible.

To people such as Stretch, even though Clinton had sold his soul to the Devil, he was one of them, after a fashion. He was white, brought up in Arkansas, same as most of the Americans, he had childhood similar to most Americans. He was one of them, even though he was the spawn of the Devil. So while the far right crowd hated him with a passion, there was a limit to the hatred.

There is no such limit for their hatred toward Obama. Obama did not have a conventional childhood, he had a Kenyan father, he was brought up in Indonesia. He has funny sounding name, he is black.

As a result, there is really no limit to the intense hatred that many people (though admittedly a small minority) feel towards him. This crowd tried its best to rob Obama of the win. They filed lawsuit after lawsuit to invalidate Obama's election and give the Presidency to McCain, but none of the courts obliged them. Many of the lawsuits are still pending, and I assume Obama haters will continue filing lawsuits to try to remove him from the office during the full 4 or 8 years of his term.

In the eyes of the far right, Obama is not an American citizen, he is in USA illegally. Not only should he not be permitted to be the President or a Senator, in their view, he should be arrested as an illegal alien, and deported.

So sure, hate mongers will be out in full force. If you thought the far right hated Clinton with a passion, you ain’t seen nothing yet. Compared to the hatred far right feels towards Obama, their attitude towards Bill (and even Hillary) Clinton would seem positively like a love fest.

My God Stretch. You must be prescient!!! You're posting more than two weeks into the future (no small feat, I'm sure)

As of today and for the next 16 days, Jarge is POTUS and the decisions are all his. Maybe he's too busy shovelling all of his **** into a very large bag to take back to "the Ranch" to pay any attention to what's going on in the world

or.....

he could be just stealing the towels and silverware....

Stretch, there is something I don’t understand. According to you, Obama is not eligible to be the President, he is in USA illegally. I assume you also think (or perhaps ‘know’) that the Supreme Court will eventually hear one of the cases brought on by Obama haters, will declare him ineligible to be the President and order him arrested and deported. I assume you also think that the Supreme Court will then hand the election to McCain/Joan of Arc ticket.

Then the question arises, why do you care what Obama thinks on Middle East, or on any other issue? If in your opinion he will be out on his tail shortly, does it really matter if he doesn’t say anything about the Middle East conflict?

Aw but SirJoseph, he does care because he know the Supreme Court could only hand over the presidency to Biden and not McCain.. Biden being the other half of the ticket would be the successor to Obama "IF" it were true..

So trying to discredit the Democratic ticket completely is more the objective then Obama himself..